Guest guest Posted February 26, 2004 Report Share Posted February 26, 2004 ---------- Alan Jacobs <alanadamsjacobs (AT) (DOT) co.uk> The_Sage_of_Arunachala Tue, 24 Feb 2004 17:11:45 +0000 (GMT) The_Sage_of_Arunachala Re: [The_Sage_of_Arunachala] refraining from action ---Dear Miles . It would be very good if this significant posting could also be sent to the main Ramana Group It is a valuable clarification and the first time i have come across it .Warmest regards , as ever, Alan _________ Forwarded post follows: <miles.wright (AT) btopenworld (DOT) com> wrote: om namo bhagavate sri ramanaya Dear Alakeshwar, > I find a lot of people in this group saying that one should > refrain from doing anything to free ourselves from the bondage of the > self.One should be in a state of being and so on. This idea is primarily tAmasika and is, indeed, rife amongst the neo-advaitists. If it has been mentioned on this site it has also been countered elsewhere by the assertion that intense effort is needed by one who would 'break the bonds'. There are three categories of teacher, who correspondingly teach under the sway of the three gunas - sattva, rajas, and tamas. Where sAttvika principles are uppermost, the teaching of intense Self-enquiry predominates, along with bhakti leading to Self-enquiry. Where rAjasika tendencies are uppermost, the various yogas, hatha, raja, tantra, ritual worship etc are taught. Where tAmasic tendencies are uppermost, lethargy leading to nihilism, holds sway. Unfortunately the simple injunction 'hrdi nama' - 'be still in the Heart' has been taken, by some, to mean that one should/can do nothing. This, then, changes what is clearly a sAttvika injunction into a tAmasika one. By means of sAttvika the other two are overcome. Of the three, the tAmasika tendencies are to be avoided. Remember the injunction, 'Be still!', is an impetus to act. > I agree that all the misery in the world is a result of people trying to do this and > that.However as long as the ego is there man will continue to act.He > cannot refrain from action.I think Ramana was very clear about > this;he said we need to make an effort.Papaji who has attained > realisation says one should simply give up the notion of being in > bondage.I think that is easier said than done.It is true that the > maker of effort is the problem but he/she cannot be wished away.The > atma vichara is an investigation into the 'I' or the maker of > effort. Intense vichara is essential. One must enquire into this individual as long as the sense of 'doing' is there. This leads to enquiry into the ego's aspect of seeking no less than the everyday aspects of judging, being still, etc. The task is one of growing attentiveness to the quest. This attentiveness is dependent on intensity of enquiry. > not fool ourselves into believing realising the self can be so > easy.One can ofcourse sit quietly for awhile without making any > effort to do anything.It may work for a while but then the mind will > get absorbed in 'doing'.Your boss rings you and tells you , you have > a report to write up for the nextday's meeting and your mind will > start to run around in circles. In the midst of work vichara should become intense. Indeed work and the trials of working life are excellent fuel for vichara. Ever Yours in Sri Bhagavan, Miles ===== alan _________ om namo bhagavate sri ramanaya "'Who am I?' is the best japa. What could be more concrete than the Self? It is within each one's experience every moment." The_Sage_of_Arunachala/ To from this group, send an email to: The_Sage_of_Arunachala <The_Sage_of_Arunachala?subject=Un> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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