Guest guest Posted April 9, 2004 Report Share Posted April 9, 2004 SELF ENQUIRY-COMPETENCE AND COMPONENTS SRI RAMANA GITA CHAPER 7 KRISHNA BHIKSHU TRANS. 7.Wonderful mystic powers may be had through other means.Even when they are obtained,bliss can be had only through Self Enquiry . 8.Krishni asked; Who is said to be fit to go on with this Enquiry? can one know by himself his own fitness ? Bhagavan replied: One whose mind is pure through Upasana [spiritual practice]or other means,or by the merit of his deeds in past lives,whose mind perceives evils [imperfections] alone, in the body, and sensory objects. ===== Life is a pure flame,and we live by an invisible Sun within us. __________ Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger./download/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2004 Report Share Posted April 10, 2004 RamanaMaharshi, Alan Jacobs <alanadamsjacobs> wrote: SELF ENQUIRY-COMPETENCE AND COMPONENTS SRI RAMANA GITA CHAPER 7 KRISHNA BHIKSHU TRANS. 7.Wonderful mystic powers may be had through other means.Even when they are obtained,bliss can be had only through Self Enquiry . 8.Krishni asked; Who is said to be fit to go on with this Enquiry? can one know by himself his own fitness ? Bhagavan replied: One whose mind is pure through Upasana [spiritual practice]or other means,or by the merit of his deeds in past lives,whose mind perceives evils [imperfections] alone, in the body, and sensory objects. ===== Alan =========================== Ramana Gita [translation &commentary by AR Natarajan ] Ch 7 contd. Vs 7 Marvellous occult powers are possible through practices other than self-enquiry. But even if one secures such powers ultimately self- enquiry alone gives liberation. Commentary A common human hankering is for powers, `siddhis'. Such powers dazzle the unwary. They lead one away from the single-minded search for Self-knowledge. Ramana always cautions against their lures. . . . .they help no one to know the Self. Ramana advises Humphreys that "clairvoyance clairaudience are not worth having when far greater illumination and peace is possible without them than with them."* [*Glimpses - Humphreys – P26] Ramana also points out that such powers are no better than dreams. They come and go. They involve exercise of the mind and are within its framework. Liberation implies freedom from thought movements following erasure of latent tendencies. True power can only be firm abidance in the Self, in the Heart, for then one cannot relapse into the illusion that one is the body. Vs 8 Who is considered fit for self-enquiry? Can one know his own fitness? Vs 9 He whose mind has been purified by spiritual practices or by accumulated merit of past lives, and who has distaste for the body and the sense objects is fit for such enquiry. (commentary to follow vs9,10& 11 taken together) ====== anu > Life is a pure flame,and we live > by an invisible Sun within us. > > > > > > __________ > Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" > your friends today! Download Messenger Now > http://uk.messenger./download/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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