RAMANA GITA STUDY GROUP .CHAPTER 11.V.15 & 16.Versification

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CHAPTER 11

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> ON THE COMPATIBILITY OF JNANA AND SIDDHIS

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> The Muni now prepares us , after his Poem in praise of Bhagavan, to return to

his original

> question .

 

VERSIFICATION 15 & 16

 

"LORD, CLEARING myriads of doubts of your many devotees,

Dispel this question causing me vexation and turmoil

Must Jnana and Siddhis part as water doth from oil

or may they confluent, flow in one who Really Sees?"

 

>From the Muni's biography it is noted that he possessed many Siddhis as a

consequence of his

strenuous Tapas and Yogic Practice -so this question was important for him .

 

 

 

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CHAPTER 11

 

ON THE COMPATIBILITY OF JNANA AND SIDDHIS

 

The Muni now prepares us , after his Poem in praise of Bhagavan, to

return to his original question .

 

VERSIFICATION 15 & 16

 

"LORD, CLEARING myriads of doubts of your many devotees,

Dispel this question causing me vexation and turmoil

Must Jnana and Siddhis part as water doth from oil

or may they confluent, flow in one who Really Sees?"

 

>From the Muni's biography it is noted that he possessed many Siddhis

as a consequence of his

strenuous Tapas and Yogic Practice -so this question was important

for him .

 

 

 

=====

Life is a pure flame,and we live

by an invisible Sun within us.

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Ramana Gita [Translation & Commentary by AR Natarajan]

Chapter 11 `On Compatibility of Gnana & Siddhis'

 

V15

Master, you have dispelled several doubts of disciples. Please

remove a doubt of mine.

V16

Are wisdom and `siddhis', powers, opposed to each other? Or is there

some relationship between them?

 

Commentary

This verse refers to powers and their relation to

knowledge. `Siddhis' or powers like clairvoyance, thought-reading

and the like which sometimes occur during serious `spiritual

practices', are in fact `distractions' from the inward movement.

For, they involve the use of the mind and they externalise it. In

the Ramana path of self-enquiry, the use of the mind is exclusively

for paying attention to the root `I'-thought. In the end the mind

would get destroyed in the process, in the same way as a stick used

for stirring the funeral pyre would also be consumed by the fire.

The question would naturally arise as to how powers, which are

mental, could survive in the state of wisdom attained through self-

enquiry. If they could co-exist the further question as to how the

two are interrelated would arise.

 

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