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CHAPTER 11

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> ON THE COMPATIBILITY OF JNANA AND SIDDHIS

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> Professor K.Swaminathan and Sri Visvanatha Swami Translation

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> The Muni has now returned to his original

> question .

 

17.Thus praised and questioned by me,Bhagavan Ramana looked intently at me and

said.

 

18"One who is well established in sahaja sthiti* performs by his very nature

inviolable tapas day

by day.

 

There is no sloth in sahaja sthiti."

 

*one established in the innate Self and abiding therein.

 

Versification

 

 

Bhagavan Ramana looked at me with his penetrating gaze,

"For those in sahaja stithi tapas ensues throughout his days,

Sahaja Stithi is not a state of torpor in which to laze.'

 

 

 

 

 

 

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RamanaMaharshi, Alan Jacobs

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CHAPTER 11

 

ON THE COMPATIBILITY OF JNANA AND SIDDHIS

 

Professor K.Swaminathan and Sri Visvanatha Swami Translation

 

The Muni has now returned to his original

question .

 

17.Thus praised and questioned by me,Bhagavan Ramana looked intently

at me and said.

 

18"One who is well established in sahaja sthiti* performs by his

very nature inviolable tapas day by day.

 

There is no sloth in sahaja sthiti."

 

*one established in the innate Self and abiding therein.

 

Versification

 

 

Bhagavan Ramana looked at me with his penetrating gaze,

"For those in sahaja stithi tapas ensues throughout his days,

Sahaja Stithi is not a state of torpor in which to laze.'

 

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Ramana Gita [Translation & Commentary by AR Natarajan]

Chapter 11 `On Compatibility of Gnana & Siddhis'

 

V17

Thus praised and questioned by me, Bhagavan Ramana looked at me

majestically and said:

 

Commentary

One of the time honoured modes of directing grace on the disciple is

through the eyes of the Guru. Ramana would often look intently at

the questioner, remain silent for some time before replying, in

order that it may have its full impact. For, the words themselves

are inadequate to communicate. The spiritual power of the force of

Sadguru's experience is conveyed by such a look. We have a

description of it by M.A. Piggot, the first Western lady devotee to

visit Sri Ramanasramam. `I tried to concentrate my mind. Suddenly I

became conscious that Ramana Maharshi's eyes were fixed on me. They

seemed literally like burning coals of fire piercing through one!'*

[*Mountain Path 1970 M.A.Piggot]

 

V18

The natural state is free from sloth. One established firmly in it

is incessantly performing the most difficult penance, spontaneously.

 

Commentary

Ramana first explains the state of knowledge, an understanding of

which would enable one to see those powers in their proper

perspective. It implies firm abidance in the natural state.

Bhagavan has pointed out to Daivarata that discovering ones own true

nature is the paramount duty for those desiring the highest.*

Ramana has also stated that when sense objects are discarded one

abides as a pure flame of knowledge and that this is the natural

state.** In that state silence born of destruction of tendencies

reigns supreme. In this verse it is affirmed that firm abidance in

this state, the natural state, is the most difficult austerity. Such

penance is however termed effortless. Why? Because the sense of

doership, the thought that one is performing tapas, is absent, it

being a state in which there is no movement of thought at all. Where

is the need for tapas or penance for such a one? The penance is

natural, like it is for fire to burn or living beings to breathe.

Hence the adjective `spontaneously'. It is termed as difficult for

it represents the state of freedom beyond the mental states of

waking, dream and deep sleep. To the onlooker the state of the wise

would appear inert, when all thought movements cease. Hence it is

explained that it is not so for one is pure consciousness in that

state. Intelligence is then sharp like the tip of kusa grass for it

is unhampered by attachments.

[*Ramana Gita Ch3 v3, **Ibid Ch1 v14]

 

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