RAMANA GITA STUDY GROUP .CHAPTER 12.V.31,32,33 On Sakti

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CHAPTER 12

 

ON SAKTI [the main topic in this long chapter]

 

Professor K.Swaminathan and Sri Visvanatha Swami Translation

 

On the nineteenth day, the high-minded Bharadwaja Kapali, great among the

learned,questioned Guru

Ramana.

 

Bhagavan:

 

31.Being is said to be the Ground , my child, and activity its attribute,

 

by understanding through activity the Source of activity ,

 

one gets firmly established in the Ground.

 

32.Being goes with attributes. And attributes go with being. The relation

between the two, it is

said, is one of identity .

 

33.As Being is apprehended only by its attribute, namely activity it is

eternally active .

 

 

Comment:It is interesting to note that the use of this term 'Ground' is one

often used by Meister

Eckhart, a Non-Dual Christian .

 

 

 

 

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CHAPTER 12

 

ON SAKTI [the main topic in this long chapter]

 

Professor K.Swaminathan and Sri Visvanatha Swami Translation

 

On the nineteenth day, the high-minded Bharadwaja Kapali, great

among the learned,questioned Guru

Ramana.

 

Bhagavan:

 

31.Being is said to be the Ground , my child, and activity its

attribute,

 

by understanding through activity the Source of activity ,

 

one gets firmly established in the Ground.

 

32.Being goes with attributes. And attributes go with being. The

relation between the two, it is

said, is one of identity .

 

33.As Being is apprehended only by its attribute, namely activity it

is eternally active .

 

 

Comment:It is interesting to note that the use of this term 'Ground'

is one often used by Meister

Eckhart, a Non-Dual Christian .

 

 

 

 

=====

Life is a pure flame,and we live

by an invisible Sun within us.

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Ramana Gita [Translation and Commentary by AR Natarajan]

Chapter 12 `On Shakti'

 

V31

It is said that Self is the ground and activity is its attribute. By

understanding through activity the source of activity, one gets

firmly established in the Self.

 

Commentary

Ramana brings one back to his teaching that the search for the

source of the one for whom the activity exists leads one back to the

Self. According to him, self-enquiry is the enquiry `wherefrom does

this `I'-thought arise*, `when the source is searched for the ego

gets merged in it'**. Elsewhere too Ramana emphasises this. `to

enquire silently and deeply as to the source of the mind, the `I'

alone is self-enquiry'. "The `I' does not rise in the real state,

search for the source of `I' dissolves it; when the `I' rises all

rise, find out with keen intellectn whence this `I'."*~* Quest for

the source is the activity which leads one back to the Self and

merges one there.

[*Upadesa-Saram v19, **RamanaGita ch7vs4-5,*~*Sat-Darshanam v9]

 

V32

Self goes with attribute and vice-versa. The two are inseparable.

 

V33

Since the Self is known only by its attribute, activity, it is

eternally active.

 

Commentary

Reference could be made to earlier verses 24 & 25 wherein it has

been pointed out that activity goes on in time without let and is

possible only because of the power of the Self. Therefore it is only

the manifest aspect of Self which is known. Since this goes on

always it could be said the Self is eternally active. The eternal

nature of activity has been explained to Kapali Sastri who

queried, `Worlds are created and they perish. How can you say that

activity is eternal?' ramana replied `Every moment there is

creation, every moment destruction. There is no absolute creation

and absolute. Both are movement and that is eternal'.

 

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