Guest guest Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 > Part I - The Quest > > 1. Reality of the World (Cont'd) > > 58) The great men of wisdom, having sought, and in the end abiding in > Truth, would not see this existence as a world of discrete objects. The > conglomeration of the diversity of names and forms in the form of the > world, in reality, is only the blemishless expanse of the Grace of > Awareness-Being. > > 59) Since for the knowers of truth established in the natural state of > Awareness, sundered of the conceit of the ego identifying with the body, > this world is of the form of only Awareness-Being, it is a blasphemy to see > the world as one of names and forms, alien to Awareness, contrary to this > perception > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > From the book, "The Garland of Guru's Sayings" by Sri Muruganar, Sri Sadhu Om Trans. ===== Life is a pure flame,and we live by an invisible Sun within us. __________ Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger./download/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2004 Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 Om Namo Bhagavathe Sri Ramanaaya Dear Alan Thanks very much for posting these wonderful verses from our Muruganar. However I have one doubt. Regarding: <<57) This dire, delusory world of emptiness, extending itself in various > > names and forms, in its natural state of freedom from names and forms, will > > be only of the form of delight of existence > > (Existence-Consciousness-Bliss), like the seamless peacock egg of > > variegated hues.>> I am no expert on peacock eggs, but felt that the "variegated hues" would refer to the bird rather than the egg. I have checked out the translations of Prof K Swaminthan and Sri Michael James, both of which support this first instinct. Swaminathan writes: 57. "The void world, variegated, vast Sprang from one sole, eternal Bliss, As from one egg the multi-coloured Peacock. See this Truth abiding As the Self alone." In David Godman's website, Michael James writes: 57. "This empty world, bewildering with multiplicity, is, in its original state, unbroken uniform Bliss, just as the multi-coloured peacock is, in its original state, the single-coloured yellow egg-yolk. Abide as Self and know this truth." I'm also forwarding this post to a colleague who is better verses in these things than me. anbudan john Siva—Siva RamanaMaharshi, Alan Jacobs <alanadamsjacobs> wrote: > > > From "The Garland of Guru's Sayings" > > > > Part I - The Quest > > > > 1. Reality of the World (Cont'd) > > > > 55) The truth of the dream-like nature of the world brought about by the > > illusory mental construction will be known only in the Light of total > > Awareness-Being transcending the mind's illusion. > > > > 56) Oh, poor mind! carried away by the dream, which is your own creation, > > if you but knew the nature of reality, which is > > Existence-Consciousness-Bliss, would this world be alien to That? No! > > > > 57) This dire, delusory world of emptiness, extending itself in various > > names and forms, in its natural state of freedom from names and forms, will > > be only of the form of delight of existence > > (Existence-Consciousness-Bliss), like the seamless peacock egg of > > variegated hues. > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > From the book, "The Garland of Guru's Sayings" by Sri Muruganar, trans.Sri Sadhu Om > > > > > > > > __________ > Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" > your friends today! Download Messenger Now > http://uk.messenger./download/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2004 Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 ---Dear John, Thank you for your input on this .Inadequate translations, even of one word, have to be watched out for - in case they mislead .Thanks and regards ,Alan <bharani wrote: > Om Namo Bhagavathe Sri Ramanaaya > > Dear Alan > > Thanks very much for posting these wonderful verses from our > Muruganar. However I have one doubt. > > Regarding: > > <<57) This dire, delusory world of emptiness, extending itself in > various > > > names and forms, in its natural state of freedom from names and > forms, will > > > be only of the form of delight of existence > > > (Existence-Consciousness-Bliss), like the seamless peacock egg of > > > variegated hues.>> > > I am no expert on peacock eggs, but felt that the "variegated hues" > would refer to the bird rather than the egg. I have checked out the > translations of Prof K Swaminthan and Sri Michael James, both of > which support this first instinct. > > Swaminathan writes: > > 57. "The void world, variegated, vast > Sprang from one sole, eternal Bliss, > As from one egg the multi-coloured > Peacock. See this Truth abiding > As the Self alone." > > In David Godman's website, Michael James writes: > > 57. "This empty world, bewildering with multiplicity, is, in its > original state, unbroken uniform > Bliss, just as the multi-coloured peacock is, in its original state, > the single-coloured yellow egg-yolk. > Abide as Self and know this truth." > > I'm also forwarding this post to a colleague who is better verses in > these things than me. > > anbudan > > john > > Siva—Siva > > > RamanaMaharshi, Alan Jacobs > <alanadamsjacobs> wrote: > > > > > From "The Garland of Guru's Sayings" > > > > > > Part I - The Quest > > > > > > 1. Reality of the World (Cont'd) > > > > > > 55) The truth of the dream-like nature of the world brought > about by the > > > illusory mental construction will be known only in the Light of > total > > > Awareness-Being transcending the mind's illusion. > > > > > > 56) Oh, poor mind! carried away by the dream, which is your own > creation, > > > if you but knew the nature of reality, which is > > > Existence-Consciousness-Bliss, would this world be alien to > That? No! > > > > > > 57) This dire, delusory world of emptiness, extending itself in > various > > > names and forms, in its natural state of freedom from names and > forms, will > > > be only of the form of delight of existence > > > (Existence-Consciousness-Bliss), like the seamless peacock egg of > > > variegated hues. > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > From the book, "The Garland of Guru's Sayings" by Sri Muruganar, > trans.Sri Sadhu Om > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________ > > Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" > > your friends today! Download Messenger Now > > http://uk.messenger./download/index.html > > > > > > Post message: RamanaMaharshi > Subscribe: RamanaMaharshi- > Un: RamanaMaharshi > List owner: RamanaMaharshi-owner > > Shortcut URL to this page: > http://www./community/RamanaMaharshi > Links > > > > > ===== Life is a pure flame,and we live by an invisible Sun within us. __________ Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger./download/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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