Guest guest Posted August 21, 2004 Report Share Posted August 21, 2004 John, I like Bhagavan's answer better. Bhagavan says 'everyone loves himself'. However, it is usually the false self that we love - the false self being the ego self. Here lies the problem of not being able to show devotion and love to the (Real) Self. For Bhagavan, who sees himself as the Self, this problem does not arise. So, till there is conviction that I and the (Real) Self are the same, devotion and love will remain forced. sundar RamanaMaharshi, John Amian <vasudevaram> wrote: > > Om Namo Bhagavathe Sri Ramanaaya > > Mr Bannerji: Is it a condition precedent for for the Lord showing grace that one must be completely devoted? Would not the Lord naturally in his Grace be kind towards all his children whether they are devoted or not? > > Bhagavan: How can one help being devoted? Everyone loves himself. That is experience. If the Self were not his dearest object, would one love it? The Self or Lord is not somewhere else, but is inside each of us and, in loving oneself, one loves only the Self. > > The visitor could not understand how this was an answer to his question. I explained: "Bhagavan has told us more than once, The Lord's Grace is always flowing. There is no time at which it is not flowing; but only those can receive it who have developed the capacity. Devotion is a condition precedent, not for the flowing of Grace from the Lord, but for your being able to receive and assimilate the Grace which is always there, [from] flowing." > > Devarajah Mudaliar; Day by Day with Bhagavan > > 7th January, 1946. Night > > ~~~~~ > > Siva—Siva > > > > > ALL-NEW Messenger - all new features - even more fun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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