Guest guest Posted September 18, 2004 Report Share Posted September 18, 2004 Namaskaram Murthy sir That was a beautiful post. I remember Bhagavan saying somewhere that "Sanyas is not giving up possessions, it is giving up the possessor" Swami > --- manof678 <manof678 wrote: > > >Dear Shyam and Alan: > >My trip TV Malai on Friday, August 20, 2004 for just an overnight >stay gave me a 'feel' of what it is/would be like "giving up one's >possessions", leave alone wandering in forests/cemeteries etc. > >I was happily spending the money in my possession to donate for >Chandru Mama's Annual Veda Parayanam (chanting), buying books/bus >tkts. etc., paying for the lodging/food etc. and on 21st (Saturday) >sometime in the afternoon, after my friend went off on his own way >leaving me alone, I realized that the funds I had brought from >Chennai for the trip had almost run out. > >The shock came when I wanted to make a call to my wife back in >Chennai and found that I had just enough for the bus fare to go back >to Chennai. For a minute, the mind was jolted by that 'helpless >feeling' as to how I would contact the folks in or reach back >Chennai if I have no money and with no relatives in TV Malai. > >I was immediately reminded of the 16 year old boy who threw away the >few annas (coins) he had (which would have helped him contact back >his family in Madurai/Dindigul) into a tank in TVMalai some 108 >years back. No thoughts of mother for a boy who had just lost his >dad, no thoughts of brothers, no thoughts of how he would get the >next meal especially considering that he was hungry and tired >throughout the trip to TV Malai, no thoughts of where/how he would >stay, none at all. What kind of mental framework that boy would have >been at that time! I was moved beyond measure that moment. > >I got a 'feel' of the 'worldy attachments', first hand, to which >this ego of self-identification has tied me. > >It is one thing to say or even feel that 'ah, at any time I can give >up all I have and wander in a strange or unknown place', but it is >altogether another thing to actually 'do it'. > >I resolved then that my main saadhanaa should be to >prepare "internally" for such a day when bhagavaan removes >all 'apparent' external impediments to giving up 'my possessions' >and wandering... > >love to all...Murthy > >RamanaMaharshi, Alan Jacobs ><alanadamsjacobs> wrote: > > ---daer shyam kumar, > > \ > > > > Tradditionally these were favourite places for Saivites and >Rishis,as there were found amenable > > and auspicious for meditation .Maybe some other member has more >information on this .Regards, > > Alan > > > > > > <shyam_drkmc> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Alan Jacobs <alanadamsjacobs> wrote:i want to know what >does it mean by "wandered > > > away in forests,cementeries,and the wilderness...".is it >preferring onething to another? > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > Difficulties on the path > > > > > > > > Once the Maharshi noticed Mr. G. sitting in his rocking chair > > > > M: What a cause for anxiety in such luxuries! If someone else >takes that > > > > seat the owner will not be happy about it. Is rocking really >so pleasant? > > > > It is simply a wasteful thought of pleasure! Siva gave all >his possessions > > > > to Vishnu and wandered away in forests, cemeteries and the >wilderness, > > > > living off food he had begged. In his view, non-possession is >higher on > > > > the scale of happiness than possessions. The higher happiness >is to be > > > > free from anxieties. > > > > > > > > Q: Am I worthy to be a devotee? > > > > > > > > M: Everyone can be a devotee. Spiritual food is common >to all and never > > > > denied to anyone. > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > > > From the book, "Conscious Immortality" by Paul Brunton and >Munagala > > > > Venkataramiah, published by Sri Ramanasramam, > > > > > > > > > Post message: RamanaMaharshi > Subscribe: RamanaMaharshi- > Un: RamanaMaharshi > List owner: RamanaMaharshi-owner > >Shortcut URL to this page: > http://www./community/RamanaMaharshi > > > Sponsor > > > > Links > > >RamanaMaharshi/ > > >RamanaMaharshi > > > > >===== >Life is a pure flame,and we live >by an invisible Sun within us. > > > > > >_________ALL-NEW >Messenger - all new features - even more fun! >http://uk.messenger. > > >______________________ >______________________ > >Message: 2 > Fri, 17 Sep 2004 18:09:36 -0700 (PDT) > sriram kannan <kannansriram >Re: Re: From Conscious Immortality > >Dear Mr. Murthy, > >Lot of questions answered in your simple narration of >your trip to Thiruvannamalai. > >Thanks > >Sriram > >--- manof678 <manof678 wrote: > > > Dear Shyam and Alan: > > > > My trip TV Malai on Friday, August 20, 2004 for just > > an overnight > > stay gave me a 'feel' of what it is/would be like > > "giving up one's > > possessions", leave alone wandering in > > forests/cemeteries etc. > > > > I was happily spending the money in my possession to > > donate for > > Chandru Mama's Annual Veda Parayanam (chanting), > > buying books/bus > > tkts. etc., paying for the lodging/food etc. and on > > 21st (Saturday) > > sometime in the afternoon, after my friend went off > > on his own way > > leaving me alone, I realized that the funds I had > > brought from > > Chennai for the trip had almost run out. > > > > The shock came when I wanted to make a call to my > > wife back in > > Chennai and found that I had just enough for the bus > > fare to go back > > to Chennai. For a minute, the mind was jolted by > > that 'helpless > > feeling' as to how I would contact the folks in or > > reach back > > Chennai if I have no money and with no relatives in > > TV Malai. > > > > I was immediately reminded of the 16 year old boy > > who threw away the > > few annas (coins) he had (which would have helped > > him contact back > > his family in Madurai/Dindigul) into a tank in > > TVMalai some 108 > > years back. No thoughts of mother for a boy who had > > just lost his > > dad, no thoughts of brothers, no thoughts of how he > > would get the > > next meal especially considering that he was hungry > > and tired > > throughout the trip to TV Malai, no thoughts of > > where/how he would > > stay, none at all. What kind of mental framework > > that boy would have > > been at that time! I was moved beyond measure that > > moment. > > > > I got a 'feel' of the 'worldy attachments', first > > hand, to which > > this ego of self-identification has tied me. > > > > It is one thing to say or even feel that 'ah, at any > > time I can give > > up all I have and wander in a strange or unknown > > place', but it is > > altogether another thing to actually 'do it'. > > > > I resolved then that my main saadhanaa should be to > > prepare "internally" for such a day when bhagavaan > > removes > > all 'apparent' external impediments to giving up 'my > > possessions' > > and wandering... > > > > love to all...Murthy > > > > RamanaMaharshi, Alan Jacobs > > <alanadamsjacobs> wrote: > > > ---daer shyam kumar, > > > \ > > > > > > Tradditionally these were favourite places for > > Saivites and > > Rishis,as there were found amenable > > > and auspicious for meditation .Maybe some other > > member has more > > information on this .Regards, > > > Alan > > > > > > > > > <shyam_drkmc> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Alan Jacobs <alanadamsjacobs> wrote:i want > > to know what > > does it mean by "wandered > > > > away in forests,cementeries,and the > > wilderness...".is it > > preferring onething to another? > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > Difficulties on the path > > > > > > > > > > Once the Maharshi noticed Mr. G. sitting in > > his rocking chair > > > > > M: What a cause for anxiety in such luxuries! > > If someone else > > takes that > > > > > seat the owner will not be happy about it. Is > > rocking really > > so pleasant? > > > > > It is simply a wasteful thought of pleasure! > > Siva gave all > > his possessions > > > > > to Vishnu and wandered away in forests, > > cemeteries and the > > wilderness, > > > > > living off food he had begged. In his view, > > non-possession is > > higher on > > > > > the scale of happiness than possessions. The > > higher happiness > > is to be > > > > > free from anxieties. > > > > > > > > > > Q: Am I worthy to be a devotee? > > > > > > > > > > M: Everyone can be a devotee. Spiritual > > food is common > > to all and never > > > > > denied to anyone. > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > > > > > From the book, "Conscious Immortality" by Paul > > Brunton and > > Munagala > > > > > Venkataramiah, published by Sri Ramanasramam, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________ > >Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! >http://vote. > > >______________________ >______________________ > > > > Post message: RamanaMaharshi > Subscribe: RamanaMaharshi- > Un: RamanaMaharshi > List owner: RamanaMaharshi-owner > >Shortcut URL to this page: > http://www./community/RamanaMaharshi >------ > Links > > > > >------ > > _______________ Movies, music, celeb news. Stay in the loop. http://www.msn.co.in/cinema/ With MSN Entertainment! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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