Guest guest Posted October 10, 2004 Report Share Posted October 10, 2004 Dear Sir, Surrender is spontaneous and this can happen when we are aware of our self. We need to make this choice and place our Lords choice ie our inner voice ahead of our personal choices. We need to reach a state where the water and its wave is seen as one. all our outlook are seen as a picture or a bystander.all acts are then only carried out as gods will.This is what surrender is.Some times what god wants us to do can be different from what we want to do.We need to be prepared for this.Eg Rmanas death experience.God will tell you what your destiny is. Please note that consciousness plus conceptualisation is ego and mind.Silence helps you to conquer your own self.But you still need to let go and become a picture or a mirror.This is also what Ramana said in his various talks.For all of us to reach this state we needs turn inwards and also pray. Prayer is the easiest way to reach this state.Gayathri mantra with concentration on its meaning over a period depending on each persons spiritual development can help one to develop the sudden spontaneous act of surrender.Words cannot express this state no matter what words we use. Gayathri mantra in my experience is so powerful that god himself clears all your doubts in silence. Please try this and at the same time read and practice ramana's way. Ravi Sankar Lusaka,Zambia Alagesan Palanivelu <alagesan61 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear All, Surrender is the path suggested to Arjuna by Lord Krishna at the end. But befpre that Lord krishna has explained all the 4 paths of Bakthi Yoga, Gnana Yoga, Raja Yoga and Karma Yoga to attain salvation. Body, Mind and soul exists for human beings. Once the soul enters into the body, the Jeevathma has always the ego of "I" am. This is body consciousness in normal condition and soul consciousness in Supreme Meditative "Samathi" condition.As long as the mind follows the senses it is like an animal and it settle down in the soul is "God " or "Self" or "surrender" state. This is like dissolving sugar in water.Once dissolved it is homogeneous state of merging oneness with the supreme. Now the question is how to attain the surrender state where the "ego" is the barrier.The life is given to experience the dissolution of the sugar ego into the soul of water. This process take place through out the life.Only when Gurus like Bagawan Ramana Maharishi's darsan focussed on us the process of dissolution will be stirrered like anything and instantaneouly we will be dissolve in the soul. Otherwise we have to suffer the prose and conse of the cause and effect of turmoil where ego is the supreme power of maya sakthi which prevents our salvation. This is came into my mind spontaneously to share with the embodyments of LoVE !!! With Love Alagesan.gabriele ebert <g.ebert (AT) gmx (DOT) de> wrote: To resolve all inherent desires into one's own Self is real surrender. After that, our burden is His. ~~~~~~~~~ a quote from Nagamma's letters, in: The Ramana Way, p. 255 ~~~ Post message: RamanaMaharshi Subscribe: RamanaMaharshi- Un: RamanaMaharshi List owner: RamanaMaharshi-ownerShortcut URL to this page: http://www./community/RamanaMaharshi P.Alagesan, HP 93847460 Singapore. CONFIDENTIALITY : This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. If you are not a named recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to another person, use it for any purpose or store or copy the information in any medium. India Matrimony: Find your life partner online. Community email addresses: Post message: RamanaMaharshi Subscribe: RamanaMaharshi- Un: RamanaMaharshi List owner: RamanaMaharshi-ownerShortcut URL to this page: http://www./community/RamanaMaharshi ALL-NEW Messenger - all new features - even more fun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2004 Report Share Posted October 10, 2004 Thank you for your explanation.Wonderful.. Alagesan.revathi ravisankar <revathiravisankar (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Dear Sir, Surrender is spontaneous and this can happen when we are aware of our self. We need to make this choice and place our Lords choice ie our inner voice ahead of our personal choices. We need to reach a state where the water and its wave is seen as one. all our outlook are seen as a picture or a bystander.all acts are then only carried out as gods will.This is what surrender is.Some times what god wants us to do can be different from what we want to do.We need to be prepared for this.Eg Rmanas death experience.God will tell you what your destiny is. Please note that consciousness plus conceptualisation is ego and mind.Silence helps you to conquer your own self.But you still need to let go and become a picture or a mirror.This is also what Ramana said in his various talks.For all of us to reach this state we needs turn inwards and also pray. Prayer is the easiest way to reach this state.Gayathri mantra with concentration on its meaning over a period depending on each persons spiritual development can help one to develop the sudden spontaneous act of surrender.Words cannot express this state no matter what words we use. Gayathri mantra in my experience is so powerful that god himself clears all your doubts in silence. Please try this and at the same time read and practice ramana's way. Ravi Sankar Lusaka,Zambia Alagesan Palanivelu <alagesan61 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear All, Surrender is the path suggested to Arjuna by Lord Krishna at the end. But befpre that Lord krishna has explained all the 4 paths of Bakthi Yoga, Gnana Yoga, Raja Yoga and Karma Yoga to attain salvation. Body, Mind and soul exists for human beings. Once the soul enters into the body, the Jeevathma has always the ego of "I" am. This is body consciousness in normal condition and soul consciousness in Supreme Meditative "Samathi" condition.As long as the mind follows the senses it is like an animal and it settle down in the soul is "God " or "Self" or "surrender" state. This is like dissolving sugar in water.Once dissolved it is homogeneous state of merging oneness with the supreme. Now the question is how to attain the surrender state where the "ego" is the barrier.The life is given to experience the dissolution of the sugar ego into the soul of water. This process take place through out the life.Only when Gurus like Bagawan Ramana Maharishi's darsan focussed on us the process of dissolution will be stirrered like anything and instantaneouly we will be dissolve in the soul. Otherwise we have to suffer the prose and conse of the cause and effect of turmoil where ego is the supreme power of maya sakthi which prevents our salvation. This is came into my mind spontaneously to share with the embodyments of LoVE !!! With Love Alagesan.gabriele ebert <g.ebert (AT) gmx (DOT) de> wrote: To resolve all inherent desires into one's own Self is real surrender. After that, our burden is His. ~~~~~~~~~ a quote from Nagamma's letters, in: The Ramana Way, p. 255 ~~~ Post message: RamanaMaharshi Subscribe: RamanaMaharshi- Un: RamanaMaharshi List owner: RamanaMaharshi-ownerShortcut URL to this page: http://www./community/RamanaMaharshi P.Alagesan, HP 93847460 Singapore. CONFIDENTIALITY : This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. If you are not a named recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to another person, use it for any purpose or store or copy the information in any medium. India Matrimony: Find your life partner online. Community email addresses: Post message: RamanaMaharshi Subscribe: RamanaMaharshi- Un: RamanaMaharshi List owner: RamanaMaharshi-ownerShortcut URL to this page: http://www./community/RamanaMaharshi ALL-NEW Messenger - all new features - even more fun! Community email addresses: Post message: RamanaMaharshi Subscribe: RamanaMaharshi- Un: RamanaMaharshi List owner: RamanaMaharshi-ownerShortcut URL to this page: http://www./community/RamanaMaharshi P.Alagesan, HP 93847460 Singapore. CONFIDENTIALITY : This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. If you are not a named recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to another person, use it for any purpose or store or copy the information in any medium. India Matrimony: Find your life partner online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2004 Report Share Posted October 10, 2004 Dear Sri Ravi Sankar, Wise words indeed - which are much appreciated by this sadhak - thank you. Every best wish , in his Grace, Alan <revathiravisankar wrote: > Dear Sir, > > Surrender is spontaneous and this can happen when we are aware of our self. We need to make this > choice and place our Lords choice ie our inner voice ahead of our personal choices. > > We need to reach a state where the water and its wave is seen as one. all our outlook are seen > as a picture or a bystander.all acts are then only carried out as gods will.This is what > surrender is.Some times what god wants us to do can be different from what we want to do.We need > to be prepared for this.Eg Rmanas death experience.God will tell you what your destiny is. > > Please note that consciousness plus conceptualisation is ego and mind.Silence helps you to > conquer your own self.But you still need to let go and become a picture or a mirror.This is also > what Ramana said in his various talks.For all of us to reach this state we needs turn inwards > and also pray. Prayer is the easiest way to reach this state.Gayathri mantra with concentration > on its meaning over a period depending on each persons spiritual development can help one to > develop the sudden spontaneous act of surrender.Words cannot express this state no matter what > words we use. > > Gayathri mantra in my experience is so powerful that god himself clears all your doubts in > silence. > > Please try this and at the same time read and practice ramana's way. > > Ravi Sankar > Lusaka,Zambia > > > Alagesan Palanivelu <alagesan61 wrote: > Dear All, > > Surrender is the path suggested to Arjuna by Lord Krishna at the end. > > But befpre that Lord krishna has explained all the 4 paths of Bakthi Yoga, Gnana Yoga, Raja Yoga > and Karma Yoga to attain salvation. > > Body, Mind and soul exists for human beings. Once the soul enters into the body, the Jeevathma > has always the ego of "I" am. This is body consciousness in normal condition and soul > consciousness in Supreme Meditative "Samathi" condition.As long as the mind follows the senses > it is like an animal and it settle down in the soul is "God " or "Self" or "surrender" state. > > This is like dissolving sugar in water.Once dissolved it is homogeneous state of merging oneness > with the supreme. > > Now the question is how to attain the surrender state where the "ego" is the barrier.The life is > given to experience the dissolution of the sugar ego into the soul of water. This process take > place through out the life.Only when Gurus like Bagawan Ramana Maharishi's darsan focussed on us > the process of dissolution will be stirrered like anything and instantaneouly we will be > dissolve in the soul. Otherwise we have to suffer the prose and conse of the cause and effect of > turmoil where ego is the supreme power of maya sakthi which prevents our salvation. > > > This is came into my mind spontaneously to share with the embodyments of LoVE !!! > > With Love > Alagesan. > > gabriele ebert <g.ebert wrote: > To resolve all inherent desires > into one's own Self is real surrender. > After that, our burden is His. > > ~~~~~~~~~ > a quote from Nagamma's letters, > in: The Ramana Way, p. 255 > ~~~ > > > > > > Post message: RamanaMaharshi > Subscribe: RamanaMaharshi- > Un: RamanaMaharshi > List owner: RamanaMaharshi-owner > > Shortcut URL to this page: > http://www./community/RamanaMaharshi > > > > > P.Alagesan, > HP 93847460 > Singapore. > > CONFIDENTIALITY : > > This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. If you are not a > named recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to > another person, use it for any purpose or store or copy the information in any medium. > > > > India Matrimony: Find your life partner online. > > > Post message: RamanaMaharshi > Subscribe: RamanaMaharshi- > Un: RamanaMaharshi > List owner: RamanaMaharshi-owner > > Shortcut URL to this page: > http://www./community/RamanaMaharshi > > > Sponsor > > > > Links > > > RamanaMaharshi/ > > > RamanaMaharshi > > > > > > > > ALL-NEW Messenger - all new features - even more fun! ===== Life is a pure flame,and we live by an invisible Sun within us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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