Guest guest Posted October 11, 2004 Report Share Posted October 11, 2004 Who are the ripe souls ? any explanation any where by Maharshi? or His other devotees? Jai Sri Ramana Ramana Sarma Message: 5 Sun, 10 Oct 2004 06:40:39 -0000 "anupadayachi" <anupadayachi STUDY GROUP on SPIRITUAL INSTRUCTION STUDY GROUP on SPIRITUAL INSTRUCTION CHAPTER 2 PRACTICE (Abhyasa) V1 Q. WHAT IS THE METHOD OF PRACTICE ? M. As the Self of a person who tries to attain Self-realization is not different from him and as there is nothing other than or superior to him to be attained by him, Self-realization being only the realization of one's own nature, the seeker of Liberation realizes, without doubts or misconceptions, his real nature by distinguishing the eternal from the transient, and never swerves from his natural state. This is known as the practice of knowledge. This is the enquiry leading to Self-realization. V2 Q. CAN THIS PATH OF ENQUIRY BE FOLLOWED BY ALL ASPIRANTS ? M. This is suitable only for the ripe souls. The rest should follow different methods according to the state of their minds. -------- anu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 Ramana Gita [translation &commentary by AR Natarajan ] Ch 7 Vs 8 Who is considered fit for self-enquiry? Can one know his own fitness? (answer…v9,10&11) Vs 9 He whose mind has been purified by spiritual practices or by accumulated merit of past lives, and who has distaste for the body and the sense objects is fit for such enquiry. Vs10 The one who feels utter distaste when his mind has to move among sense-objects and who is conscious of the transitoriness of the body is said to be a competent one for self-enquiry. Vs 11 By the marks of a sense of transitoriness of the body, and by detachment to sense-objects, ones fitness for self-enquiry can be known. Commentary Is self-enquiry possible only for the spiritually mature?. . . The scriptures prescribe several spiritual practices for the purification of the mind, including discrimination between `Real' – `Unreal', permanent-impermanent. (discussed in Ch 1).. . . Ramana's replies are always positive, the truth being explained in the light of the natural inclinations of the questioner. Perhaps this is why Ramana replies that vairagya, non-attachment to sense-objects and distaste for transitory things, is a mark of those suited for self-enquiry. It would be useful to remember that Ramana's emphasis is not on the qualities of the mind, not on its content, but about its nature and about its source. . . . .It could be said that all those who are prepared to keep the gunpowder of the spirit dry, who are earnest to find out the truth, all those brave enough to be prepared to lose life in order to find it, are fit for self-enquiry. ------ anu RamanaMaharshi, rpodury@g... wrote: > Who are the ripe souls ? any explanation any where by Maharshi? or His > other devotees? > > Jai Sri Ramana > Ramana Sarma > Message: 5 > Sun, 10 Oct 2004 06:40:39 -0000 > "anupadayachi" <anupadayachi> > STUDY GROUP on SPIRITUAL INSTRUCTION > > > STUDY GROUP on SPIRITUAL INSTRUCTION > > CHAPTER 2 > > PRACTICE > (Abhyasa) > > V1 > Q. WHAT IS THE METHOD OF PRACTICE ? > > M. As the Self of a person who tries to attain Self-realization > is not different from him and as there is nothing other than > or superior to him to be attained by him, Self-realization > being only the realization of one's own nature, the seeker > of Liberation realizes, without doubts or misconceptions, > his real nature by distinguishing the eternal from the > transient, and never swerves from his natural state. > This is known as the practice of knowledge. This is > the enquiry leading to Self-realization. > > V2 > Q. CAN THIS PATH OF ENQUIRY BE FOLLOWED BY ALL ASPIRANTS ? > > M. This is suitable only for the ripe souls. > The rest should follow different methods according to the > state of their minds. > > > > -------- > anu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 Dear Sri Anu Thank you very much for the reply On a practical note I tend to think that Sri Ramana draws to Him only ripe souls. I think who ever makes a beginning to practice Self Inquiry is competent. Personally one thing I noticed is that 'vairagya' mainly helps to achieve progress in Self-Inquiry. But my vairagya was not that strong when I started to practice. I could observe that practice strnegthened vairagya incourse of time. Jai Sri Ramana Ramana Sarma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 Sri Sarma Thanku for your comments. >...I tend to think that Sri Ramana draws to Him only ripe > souls. I think who ever makes a beginning to practice Self Inquiry is > competent. == i agree. 'When the student is ready the teacher appears' ..or sends for the student as the case may be. What the teacher has to offer matches precisely the students need at that particular phase of his/her life in order to enhance further maturation (ripening) of understanding. > Personally one thing I noticed is that 'vairagya' mainly helps to achieve > progress in Self-Inquiry. But my vairagya was not that strong when I > started to practice. I could observe that practice strnegthened vairagya > incourse of time. ==Attachment to the ego-I-thought is the root cause of attachment to all things wordly. This includes all that is encompassed by 'tana-mana-dhana' ie. body-mind-wealth(material possessions). An initial aspiration to non-attachment to the world - initiated by Grace - prepares the student for Self-Inquiry and, as Self-Inquiry addresses the root cause of attachment, renunciation of attachment to the illusory world will become easier. 'Vairagya' or renunciation is about LETTING-GO OF ATTACHMENT. It is beneficial to recognise that the ego could present attachment to the mental concept of vairagya as being worthy. Then 'vairagya' can become a blinding obsession and an instrument for comparison between me/other or us/them. This is a common pitfall all spiritual seekers meet up with - myself included. We all rely on Grace to guide us past such obstacles. In Ramana's Grace anu RamanaMaharshi, rpodury@g... wrote: > > Dear Sri Anu > > Thank you very much for the reply > On a practical note I tend to think that Sri Ramana draws to Him only ripe > souls. I think who ever makes a beginning to practice Self Inquiry is > competent. > Personally one thing I noticed is that 'vairagya' mainly helps to achieve > progress in Self-Inquiry. But my vairagya was not that strong when I > started to practice. I could observe that practice strnegthened vairagya > incourse of time. > > Jai Sri Ramana > > Ramana Sarma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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