Silence's noise - BG: 2.69

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om namo bhagavate sri ramanaya

An apposite translation:

During that, which is the night* of all beings, one who is self-controlled is [ever] awake.

And that which is the waking state for other beings is [but] a dream* for the introspective sage.

*The word 'niSA' (in the text) can mean night and/or dream.

An apposite quote from Bhagavan:

The dream is the combination of jagrat and sushupti. It is due to the samskaras

of the jagrat state. Hence we remember dreams at present. Samskaras are no

formed contrarywise; therefore also we are not aware of the dream and jagrat

simultaneously. Still everyone will recollect strange perplexities in dream.

One wonders if he dreams or is awake. He argues and determines that he is only

awake. When really awake, he finds that it was all only a dream. (Talks; 399)

And another:

M. : Why are you not perfect? Did you feel imperfection in your sleep? Why do

you not remain so even now? Bring sleep into the waking state (jagrat sushupti)

and you will be alright. Ya nisa sarva bhootanam........pasyato muneh......(That

which is night for the ignorant is day for the wise.)

D. : Yes, if he is a muni (sage).

M. : Who is a muni? Is he not a man?

(from Talks; 290)

Bhagavad Giitaa chap two verse 69 in Itrans.

yaa nishaa sarvabhuutaanaaM

what (is) the night of all beings

tasyaaM jaagrati saMyamii .

in this he is wakeful, the man of restraint;

yaryaaM jaagrati bhuutaani

in what they are wakeful, beings,

saa nishaa pashyato muneH .. 69 ..

that (is) the night of the seeing sage.

yaa (f. nom. sg.), what, which

nisha (f. nom. sg.) night

sarvabhuutaanam (n. gen. pl.)of all beings

tasyaam (f. loc. sg.)in it, in this

jaagrati (3rd sg. pr. indic. act. check jaagr.) he are wakeful,

he are watchful

saMyamii (m. nom. sg.) the restrained one, the man of restraint

yasyaam (f. loc. sg. ) in what, in which

jaagrati (3rd sg. pr. indic. act. check jaagr.) he are wakeful,

he are watchful

bhuutaani (n. nom. pl.) beings, existences

saa (f. nom. sg.) this, that

nisha (f. nom. sg.) night

pashyatas (m. gen. sg. pr. participle check pash) of the seeing, of

the percieving

munes (m. gen. sig.) of the sage, of the wise man

The man of restraint is awake

In that which is night for all beings;

The time in which all beings are awake

Is night for the sage who sees.

* Meaning that the "sage who sees" percieves

the light of the aatman, which is dark as night to

others, while the others see the light of the sense

which is dark as night to the sage

revised version of page 154

The Bhagavad Gita by Winthrop Sargeant

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RamanaMaharshi, "thoughts_neutrons"

<thoughts_neutrons> wrote:

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> Reality is dreamless-sleep, the mind its noise.

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> -- the noise I am

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> That which the world calls day is the night of ignorance to the

wise.

> -- Bhagavad Gita 2-69