Guest guest Posted December 16, 2004 Report Share Posted December 16, 2004 Can anyone supply details on the AHAM group? I am not sure about this group. Thank you Chris Rogers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2004 Report Share Posted December 16, 2004 Dear Chris, the AHAM-organisation creats a lineage to Bhagavan Ramana, a "succession of this teaching" and makes a program out of His teaching of self-enquiry - enlightenment in a course-system - compared with profit-making. It is in their own view " the only organization or group anywhere in the world providing formal instruction in this powerful, but simple process brought to the world by Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi, where, following your training, you recieve personal formal guidance from a qualified Buddy who is an advanced graduate (see www.aham.com) The leader is a self-announced teacher who now is named A. Ramana, which is not his family name. It is clear that this organisation is not in Bhagavan Ramana's sense at all. This all is much misleading!! Take care!! The only thing which is really good about AHAM is their book-store, where one can buy many books about Ramana Maharshi. Kind Regards Gabriele - Christopher Rogers RamanaMaharshi Thursday, December 16, 2004 8:15 PM [RamanaMaharshi] AHAM group Can anyone supply details on the AHAM group? I am not sure about thisgroup.Thank youChris Rogers Post message: RamanaMaharshi Subscribe: RamanaMaharshi- Un: RamanaMaharshi List owner: RamanaMaharshi-ownerShortcut URL to this page: http://www./community/RamanaMaharshi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2004 Report Share Posted December 16, 2004 Chris, I have been actively involved with the AHAM group since 2000. What would you like to know. Generally their courses are extremely powerful and take one from the beginning steps to a full experience of Self-Inquiry. Ron - Christopher Rogers RamanaMaharshi Thursday, December 16, 2004 3:15 PM [RamanaMaharshi] AHAM group Can anyone supply details on the AHAM group? I am not sure about thisgroup.Thank youChris Rogers Post message: RamanaMaharshi Subscribe: RamanaMaharshi- Un: RamanaMaharshi List owner: RamanaMaharshi-ownerShortcut URL to this page: http://www./community/RamanaMaharshi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2004 Report Share Posted December 16, 2004 I disagree. The organization clearly follows in all senses the teachings of Bhagavan Ramana. There is no deception or misleading being done at AHAM. The courses are both powerful and transformative. Ron - gabriele ebert RamanaMaharshi Thursday, December 16, 2004 4:31 PM Re: [RamanaMaharshi] AHAM group Dear Chris, the AHAM-organisation creats a lineage to Bhagavan Ramana, a "succession of this teaching" and makes a program out of His teaching of self-enquiry - enlightenment in a course-system - compared with profit-making. It is in their own view " the only organization or group anywhere in the world providing formal instruction in this powerful, but simple process brought to the world by Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi, where, following your training, you recieve personal formal guidance from a qualified Buddy who is an advanced graduate (see www.aham.com) The leader is a self-announced teacher who now is named A. Ramana, which is not his family name. It is clear that this organisation is not in Bhagavan Ramana's sense at all. This all is much misleading!! Take care!! The only thing which is really good about AHAM is their book-store, where one can buy many books about Ramana Maharshi. Kind Regards Gabriele - Christopher Rogers RamanaMaharshi Thursday, December 16, 2004 8:15 PM [RamanaMaharshi] AHAM group Can anyone supply details on the AHAM group? I am not sure about thisgroup.Thank youChris Rogers Post message: RamanaMaharshi Subscribe: RamanaMaharshi- Un: RamanaMaharshi List owner: RamanaMaharshi-ownerShortcut URL to this page: http://www./community/RamanaMaharshi Post message: RamanaMaharshi Subscribe: RamanaMaharshi- Un: RamanaMaharshi List owner: RamanaMaharshi-ownerShortcut URL to this page: http://www./community/RamanaMaharshi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2004 Report Share Posted December 17, 2004 Dear Ron, after Chris's question I have had a look at Aham's website and I wonder what are the intentions of this group. Could it be profit? I have been practicing vichara since Grace put me in touch with Maharshi's teachings. Now, if I have been able to experience, as you call it, vichara, then anyone else, who is open to it, also can. Now Maharshi's teaching on vichara are crystal clear and there have been many excellent commentaries by immediate disciples. So where is the need to spend a substantial amount of money on someone, who calls himself Arunachala Ramana (to me there is only one Arunachala Ramana) and who has turned the holiest teaching into a sellable commodity, when the only money one has to spend is for Maharshi's writings and even they can be found free in the internet. I wonder.... Om Arunchala Shiva Christiane On Dec 17, 2004, at 08:40, Ron wrote: > Chris, > > I have been actively involved with the AHAM group since 2000. What > would you like to know. Generally their courses are extremely > powerful and take one from the beginning steps to a full experience of > Self-Inquiry. > > > Ron > - > Christopher Rogers > RamanaMaharshi > Thursday, December 16, 2004 3:15 PM > [RamanaMaharshi] AHAM group > > > Can anyone supply details on the AHAM group? I am not sure about this > group. > > Thank you > > Chris Rogers > > > > > > > Post message: RamanaMaharshi > Subscribe: RamanaMaharshi- > Un: RamanaMaharshi > List owner: RamanaMaharshi-owner > > Shortcut URL to this page: > http://www./community/RamanaMaharshi > > > > > > Post message: RamanaMaharshi > Subscribe: RamanaMaharshi- > Un: RamanaMaharshi > List owner: RamanaMaharshi-owner > > Shortcut URL to this page: > http://www./community/RamanaMaharshi > > > > > Sponsor > > > <lrec_companion_043004.gif> > <l.gif> > > Links > > • > RamanaMaharshi/ > > • > RamanaMaharshi > > • Terms of > Service. > > > Monsoonhouse Int. Kovalam/Kerala contact: christianecameron Attachment: (text/enriched) [not stored] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2004 Report Share Posted December 17, 2004 om namo bhagavate sri ramanaya Dear Ron et al, I disagree. The organization clearly follows in all senses the teachings of Bhagavan Ramana. There is no deception or misleading being done at AHAM. The courses are both powerful and transformative. You are welcome to disagree. But please let members diasagree elsewhere. This is simply a Ramana Maharshi Forum. There is no charge for joining, and no donations requested, no claims of lineage (it would be a preposterous claim in any case ), no courses to take, in order that further might be considered, no trademark 'this' or copyright 'that' to find, or partake of, (or even aspire to become). As has already been mentioned, the 'core' writings are freely downloadable and the rest available from Ramanashramam and other places for minimal cost. For those in Europe, there is also the Ramana Online Library where one can borrow all one needs in the way of books. If further [physical] contact is required many members here go to Arunachala for a visit. Others find absolutely no need to. Some contact by email or post. They (the Ashram) are very contactable. The magazine 'The Mountain Path' is well worth subscribing to. Friends in Bhagavan can get together for meetings and members are welcome to advertise their [non-commercial] meetings here. If one makes a commodity of Bhagavan [no matter what justification is put forward], one has truly missed the point. The position of the founder of this group is clear. So let's nip this in the bud now and ....if anyone's got a problem...fine...thank you...that can be discussed elsewhere too!!! There are plenty of forums in this ethernet which will accomodate and if per chance none can be found, one can always invent one. Then let's get on with the celebration of the life and teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi ...and practice of vichara etc. of course. Kind Regards, Miles -- -- - -- -- May the world be blessed for long with the feet of Guru Ramana who abides as that silent principle which absorbs all of us and remains by itself as the root of the three principles (soul, world and Iswara). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2004 Report Share Posted December 17, 2004 Dear Everyone: Bhagavan's devotees know perfectly well that there is only one Bhagavan Ramana and his teachings are perfectly clear. They were given by Sri Ramana with compassion and grace overflowing, with no thought of financial or any other rewards. The immaculate purity of Bhagavan Ramana in all ways is spell binding and makes us silent. My teacher, Chitrabhanuji, used to visit Sri Ramana as a teenager in the late 1930s before he became a Jain monk in 1942. He told me that Sri Ramana was perfectly fine being alone in the beginning and many times silent for long periods and simply became accustomed to having a lot of people around gradually. Bhagavan basically tolerated and accepted everything and once in a while in the beginning when he tried to avoid people and run away or go deep in the jungle his plans were undermined by divine providence. So Sri Ramana came to accept this and responded to the needs of the people around him and that is how the Ashram came into being and grew with Sri Ramana taking interest in the welfare of the devotees and looking after them. I recall a story that my teacher told. Once he visited Sri Ramana and asked him about the highest reality (Jains believe that upon liberations the Siddhas become completely liberated from matter and their souls ascend to the height of the universe). Sri Ramana was then keeping silence and did not answer the question. Instead he looked at my teacher and kindly smiled. Sri Ramana then pointed to the sky with his finger and then pointed to his own (Sri Ramana's own) heart. So my understanding from that story was that the highest height and the deepest depth of the Heart are the same thing and the highest is contained in our Heart.. Back in the 1970s, I used to read many books by many teachers. Chitrabhanuji told me to read Sri Ramana instead and I got that book, "Talks with Ramana Maharshi". It was like magic. For me that has been a life blessing and I slowly lost attraction to any other teaching and gurus and so forth, although of course I maintain respect for all traditions as Sri Ramana taught. The original teachings of Sri Ramana, the conversations of Bhagavan with others and the words of Bhagavan's devotees have been more than enough for me. Still people have many needs and there are many teachers to meet their needs and that is good. But there is only one Bhagavan Ramana and in the mind of the devotees the Sage has no equal and no one can really be compared to him. Love to all Harsha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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