Investigation about Arunachala-sketches of Bhagavan

[Guest guest]

Dear Gabriele,

 

yes ! and thanks for the beautiful pictures now filed .

 

The Supreme Guru contains within him all the talents .Ramana wa a brilliant

cook, poet,

philosopher [in the real meaning of the world], building consultant, sportsman,

mountaineer.

garden consultant, health advisor,artist, editor, author, animal tender,knower

of the scriptures,

anecdotalist,and much more....

 

And above all led his earnest devotees to Self Realisation, by teaching through

Silence,and

giving Upadesa, and still does.

 

Jai Ramana! Jai Arunavhala.!

 

All love,

 

In his boundless grace,

 

Alan

 

 

--- gabriele ebert <g.ebert wrote:

> Dear members,

>

> Bhagavan was a gifted graphic artist. Look at the few sketches from

> Him which shows Arunachala.

>

> Perhaps someone can help in some investigation about Bhagavan's sketches.

> Kunju Swami tells in his Reminiscences (p. 126) that Bhagavan draw an

Arunachala-

> sketch into his notebook and this was then used in The Mountain

> Path. Now I have looked on the old covers of the journal - could it be this

one?

> Can someone say something about that?

>

> I know a more simple sketch by Him. Does anymone know on which occasion

> this sketches have been made? There is another one I remember to have seen

> somewhere else, but can't find it out at the moment. Who knows ... perhaps

some

> more exist.

>

> I am adding both sketches which are here as attachment. I am sorry for the

lack in quality.

> On the CD-ROM 'Arunachala-Ramana' the Mountain-Path sketch shows up more

clear.

> I have looked at it there enlarged ... it is fantastic! But I can't copy it

out

> from there. This here is just a copy from the homepage of Ramanashram.

>

> Would be glad for each information ... a new discovery ... Bhagavan was an

artist too.

> But it seems he only sketched beloved Arunachala.

>

> Yours in Sri Ramana

> Gabriele

 

> ATTACHMENT part 2 image/jpeg name=ArunachalaSkizzeRamana.bearb.jpg

 

 

> ATTACHMENT part 3 image/jpeg name=m_p_image.jpg

[Guest guest]

Gabriele,

 

Yesterday I had been to Ramanashram for the first time in my life

and felt so fulfilled. (And the bookshop officer showed me

latest Mountain Path issue (Jayanthi 2005) and I saw your article

there.

 

**

 

I bought many many books - dont know how much more book-bondage

remains for us.

 

Kunju Swami's being one of the books.

 

Kunju Swami records that he first prepared a notebook for collecting

'recitation material' (Parayanam). He thought it would be good to

affix a picture of the Mountain, but unfortunately he could not

locate one. Later in the day, to his surprise, Bhagavan had

drawn this picture.

 

Ganesan also recounted this incident in 'Moments Remembered'. I will

read both books again and reproduce what I find.

 

***

 

Kunju Swami has himself wonders in a place where did Ramana find to

learn all these arts. (He mentions this when he talks about how in

early days they used to collect green leaves of all kinds and eat

with little rice (Bhagavan said - 'Let us have the greens as food and

rice as a side-dish')). At that time, Ramana mentions the medicinal

value of each green and then Kunju starts wondering where did he

learn all this. He left home when he was 16 and came out here. When

and where did he learn all these household activities?

 

**

 

In another place in Kunju Swami's book Ramana gives answer to this

question.

 

He says 'If you turn inward and know yourself, all the

rest of the knowledge will occur to you on its own.' He quotes

Ulladu Narpadu - 'What else to know if we know our Self?'.

 

And this Ramana gives as a reply to Kunju Swami's eagerness to learn

all ancient scriptures of the Vedanta. He says there is no end to

reading, learning and talking. Turn inward and hold on to yourself,

do not ever let go. You will then find yourself and then there is

neither holding nor letting go.

[Guest guest]

Dear Ravi,

 

oh good It is one chapter of the Ramana-biography.

The book stall at Ramanashram is great - isn't it? One could buy all the books

there - in complete

Nice to hear you enjoyed your first travel to Arunachala.

 

I enjoyed your mailing about the look from Bhagavan. I had too an experience of His look

in the Old Hall Surely many may have ...

 

There are 2 sketches by Bhagavan - I am adding again. I was informed that the first

one is this which Bhagavan drew into Kunju Swami's notebook. There is also a second drawing

from him.

 

Please take care with the AWA-method. I am unsure in how far it hits Bhagavan's teaching.

 

yours in Sri Ramana

Gabriele

 

 

 

Gabriele,Yesterday I had been to Ramanashram for the first time in my lifeand

felt so fulfilled. (And the bookshop officer showed melatest Mountain Path

issue (Jayanthi 2005) and I saw your article there. **I bought many many

books - dont know how much more book-bondage remains for us. Kunju Swami's

being one of the books.Kunju Swami records that he first prepared a notebook

for collecting'recitation material' (Parayanam). He thought it would be good to

affix a picture of the Mountain, but unfortunately he could not locate one.

Later in the day, to his surprise, Bhagavan had drawn this picture. Ganesan

also recounted this incident in 'Moments Remembered'. I willread both books

again and reproduce what I find.***

Attachment: (image/jpeg) ArunachalaSkizzeRamana.bearb.jpg [not stored]

Attachment: (image/jpeg) Arunachalsketch.jpeg [not stored]

[Guest guest]

Dear Gabriele

 

 

Regarding AWA, thanks for your concern and caution. True, we all

should be very careful not to get into wrong paths and waste

years misguided by false prophets. In fact, I even apply caution to

Ramana's teachings.

 

My feeling of AWA's effectiveness came from my practice of it,

not by the persuasive writing of Michael. (not an intellectual

appreciation but a result of experience). In fact, Michael's

description of the practice

is very dry and intellectual and his formatting is un-aesthetic,

but when I tried his first exercise, (See a bulb, then close your

eyes, the one that is watching is the Awareness. Stay there. That is

the Self. When thoughts come, ignore them and get back to this

awareness) it just clicked. After that

when I read, Talks with Ramana Maharshi, I could immediately

understand many Talks with fresh insight.

 

I still feel Michael has rightly caught at the core of Ramana's

technique. This weekend, I bought Guru vachaga Kovai, Muruganar's

original and I opened a page randomly and found a verse that

describes this very exercise in another angle. I feel that after

years of trying this way and that way, Michael has been guided

by his Inner Guru to this. And I also feel that unless I am ready,

I could have read the same exercise and simply skipped. Or in other

words, if Michael hadnt given the instructions on the webpage, I might

have chanced upon it sooner or later.

 

I dont know what made you caution me against AWA. I suspect

that might be due to the extreme energy with which Michael says

AWA is direct and all the rest are delayed, waste of time.

 

I think Michael's reaction is one of a person who goes with a

team to search for gold deposit. He wanders alone and finds a fort,

opens a door and finds the whole building is full of pure gold.

Will he not rush out to others and ask them to turn back and stop

what they are doing? Now, I dont want to trust the person, but

rather walk away from him and go to the fort he mentioned, open the

door and see the gold, then I have to thank him, right?

 

**

 

In fact, I am really perplexed by Michael's statement that in

January 2004, his ego ended. That is a BIG statement to make. If it

was true, he is another Jivan Muktha (Liberated while alive) and we

have a Gem like Ramana.

 

Being what I am, and Jivan Mukta's being a rarity, I will give the

benefit of doubt to him, I will try to get in touch with him and try

to provoke his Ego if it is not yet dead, but just hidden. And Ramana

is a trusted, proven Master who not only touched the Egoless State

but stayed there. And Ramana has mentioned elsewhere that even

Jnanis can fall from their Egoless state easily until they are fully

established. This is another interesting new thing I am learning from

Ramana's talks. One glimpse at reality or even being in the Egoless

state for a few months, is no guarantee. Ego must die, never to

return back.

 

Unfortunately, I sent a personal mail of praise and he has not

responded to it. He is keeping quiet - he is either a realized Soul

who has his own reasons to keep quiet or one who is using my praise

as an opportunity to establish his detachment from rising Ego or more

simply, he hasnt had a chance to look at the mailbox and reply to it!

 

**

 

On a related not, I hope my mention of your Mountain path article

does not create a need for Name and Fame in you. We, in this path

of destroying the ego, (actually, identifying that it

does not exist as a real thing,) through the discriminative

power of Vichara, should not commit the error of helping

each other's ego-s thrive by creating a mutual admiration society.

 

In case you feel a joy on that mention, or a little sadness

in this pointing out, I am sure you will immediately become aware of

it and use it as a pointer to reflect on your Source. The Little

Ego's joys of fulfilment (including the joy on being recognized or

praised) is also a result of momentarily abiding in the Self - as

Ramana points out in 'Who Am I'.

 

After all, even this ego is a Shadow of the Self.

 

Let me end with this story from Ramana: (paraphrased)

 

A man suddenly realized he was being continuosly followed

by a black object. It followed him wherever he went during the day.

He didnt like it because it was black and out of shape and worse

still, it was faithful to his outline in a way.

 

He didnt know that it was just a harmless Shadow. He decided

to get rid of it.

 

He dug a huge pit and stood in such a way that it fell into the

pit. Then he carefully filled the pit with sand. Alas, he found that

the ego climbed up and was again on the surface.

 

He gave up and was crying.

 

A passer-by saw this and finding out this background, laughed

and said, "Oh! This is not the way to get rid of this black thing.

Let me tell you a sure fire way."

 

He then asked the man to turned the Sun, the Source of Light and

asked him, "Look here, the Shadow will vanish".

 

***

 

And Ramana concluded saying, "See the Seer, the Source of your

Awareness and stay there, the Ego, the shadow will vanish".

 

***

 

Even this advice is a partial temporary solution.

 

This advice is required until the man realizes that the Shadow is

a virtual entity and you dont have to eliminate it. As long as there

is a body, the shadow will remain. Just that, now he does not look at

it and obsess.

 

Praying for the Grace of Bhagavan on all of us,

Ravi

 

 

 

 

 

RamanaMaharshi, "gabriele ebert"

<g.ebert@g...> wrote:

> Dear Ravi,

>

> oh good It is one chapter of the Ramana-biography.

> The book stall at Ramanashram is great - isn't it? One could buy

all the books there - in complete

> Nice to hear you enjoyed your first travel to Arunachala.

>

> I enjoyed your mailing about the look from Bhagavan. I had too an

experience of His look

> in the Old Hall Surely many may have ...

>

> There are 2 sketches by Bhagavan - I am adding again. I was

informed that the first

> one is this which Bhagavan drew into Kunju Swami's notebook. There

is also a second drawing

> from him.

>

> Please take care with the AWA-method. I am unsure in how far it

hits Bhagavan's teaching.

>

> yours in Sri Ramana

> Gabriele

>

>

>

>

>

> Gabriele,

>

> Yesterday I had been to Ramanashram for the first time in my life

> and felt so fulfilled. (And the bookshop officer showed me

> latest Mountain Path issue (Jayanthi 2005) and I saw your article

> there.

>

> **

>

> I bought many many books - dont know how much more book-bondage

> remains for us.

>

> Kunju Swami's being one of the books.

>

> Kunju Swami records that he first prepared a notebook for

collecting

> 'recitation material' (Parayanam). He thought it would be good to

> affix a picture of the Mountain, but unfortunately he could not

> locate one. Later in the day, to his surprise, Bhagavan had

> drawn this picture.

>

> Ganesan also recounted this incident in 'Moments Remembered'. I

will

> read both books again and reproduce what I find.

>

> ***