Guest guest Posted January 10, 2005 Report Share Posted January 10, 2005 Michael 2 days back I came across your guidelines in the FirstRing group - on how to awaken insight. You had pointed out that instead of reading books and Sayings like reading newspaper, you should slow down and read a section many many times, slowly, with an intention of grasping the true inner meaning. Then insight is awakened. However this is very difficult to do because the ego has a tendency to rush and to speed read and jump around fast thinking 'I have read this before, yeah I know this, I understand this'. After reading yourguidelines, I took a print out of a small section of Chapter 8 of Sadhu Om and read it many time with Sincerity and earnestness and awaiting insight. How amazed I was! I now noted words that I had previously misread! I had puzzles and questions which I previously never had! And I had answers pop up from insight. I had many 'Aha's! And I understood how clearly Sadhu Om's description describes the settling down of ego primarily by holding on to the First Person - not holding, by clinging to him. That evening I traveled by bus to Ramanashram and I tried to hold onto the First Person without losing hold. When you do this, thoughts come in but since your effort is strong in holding, you get back to the First Person and start seeing that the thoughts are just thin waves. Secondly I started seeing that as I was holding, the thoughts were fewer and fewer and less stronger and slowly I started feeling sleepy, but for the first time, I saw that my mind continued to hold onto the First person. I started wondering whether this holding Guy and the held Guy are two different! Wow! This process of Slow reading and then practising AWA for an hour, are really insight releasing. You know why? At the end of this exercise, I opened Maha Yoga and in the chapter called Quest I read a quote that described this very process very precisely. It provided the missing link from where Sadhu Om leaves: Sadhu Om says: "Just as a rubber ball gathers momentum as it bounces down a stair case, the more intense our concentration on clinging to the First Person, faster is the contraction of the First Thought (Ego) until it merges into the Source". (I am happy to tell you that this was the first sentence of the quote I took out of Chapter Eight, that I slow read according to your guidelines.) "Who" in Maha Yoga more concisely says ( I am paraphrasing) - BY vigilantly holding on the the sense of I am, before going to sleep, as thoughts drop off one by one, at the last moment, when the last thought drops off, there is this Pure Awareness. And in my further reading of Maha Yoga I found many quotes that described the (new) insights I got right before the reading! Outlandish as these coincidences may seem, another simpler explanation is that the events of reality are also a dream where we are creating them to suit our desires and fears. The illusion of world and events apart from the mind and having a mind as a intentious thinker are dissolving even though very slowly. Thanks for being one of the first out in the open non-Indian Rishi's who re-discover Vichara technique in precise ways. I am not saying this to resurrect the ego which you might have destroyed or prolong the one you are finding difficult to destroy. I am sharing this to say my experience follows your experience, so the truth of single consciousness is getting affirmed. (P.S. I also visited Sri sadhu Om's Presence, on my first ever trip yesterday to Ramanashram. Ravi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2005 Report Share Posted January 10, 2005 In other words, the First Person awareness that is present during waking state is the same one that remains in Sleep without taking up any thought or listening to the outside world and the same one that remains in dream as a detached Observer without getting fully taken over by the created world. Well, I said 'listening to the world'. Ramana and Upanishad's say that 'creating worlds'. ***** In the spirit of Muruganar, I am expressing my gratitude to you as a Tamil Poem: "There is a teaching that says Cling only on to Awareness and you will see that all the imagined rest of things - World, Mind, Body, Ego will drop off like melting snow. "There is a teaching that says Cling only on to this teaching and do not waste time on indirect teachings. That is enough. "The teacher who gave us "Who Am I?" Ramana, is today appearing as Sadhu Om and UareLove." Thaanennum Thannunarvai Vittidadhu Pidiththukkol Paarennum UdalManadum Ahandaiyaam Paniyurugum Paarendru Sonna Oru Sollae podum Naer vazhi Naan Yaarendru raitha Ramananae Inru Om Saadhu U are love. RamanaMaharshi, "rjaymidi" <rjaymidi> wrote: > > Michael > > 2 days back I came across your guidelines in the FirstRing > group - on how to awaken insight. > > You had pointed out that instead of reading books and Sayings like > reading newspaper, you should slow down and read a section many many > times, slowly, with an intention of grasping the true inner meaning. > Then insight is awakened. However this is very difficult to do > because the ego has a tendency to rush and to speed read and jump > around fast thinking 'I have read this before, yeah I know this, I > understand this'. > > After reading yourguidelines, I took a print out of a small > section of Chapter 8 of Sadhu Om and read it many time with Sincerity > and earnestness and awaiting insight. > > How amazed I was! I now noted words that I had previously misread! > I had puzzles and questions which I previously never had! And I had > answers pop up from insight. I had many 'Aha's! > > And I understood how clearly Sadhu Om's description describes the > settling down of ego primarily by holding on to the First Person > - not holding, by clinging to him. > > That evening I traveled by bus to Ramanashram and I tried to hold > onto the First Person without losing hold. When you do this, thoughts > come in but since your effort is strong in holding, you get back to > the First Person and start seeing that the thoughts are just thin > waves. > > Secondly I started seeing that as I was holding, the thoughts were > fewer and fewer and less stronger and slowly I started feeling > sleepy, but for the first time, I saw that my mind continued to hold > onto the First person. I started wondering whether this holding Guy > and the held Guy are two different! Wow! > > This process of Slow reading and then practising AWA for an hour, > are really insight releasing. > > You know why? > > At the end of this exercise, I opened Maha Yoga and in the > chapter > called Quest I read a quote that described this very process very > precisely. It provided the missing link from where Sadhu Om leaves: > > Sadhu Om says: "Just as a rubber ball gathers momentum as it > bounces down a stair case, the more intense our concentration on > clinging to the First Person, faster is the contraction of the First > Thought (Ego) until it merges into the Source". > > (I am happy to tell you that this was the first sentence of the > quote I took out of Chapter Eight, that I slow read according to your > guidelines.) > > "Who" in Maha Yoga more concisely says ( I am paraphrasing) - > BY vigilantly holding on the the sense of I am, before going to > sleep, as thoughts drop off one by one, at the last moment, when the > last thought drops off, there is this Pure Awareness. > > And in my further reading of Maha Yoga I found many quotes that > described the (new) insights I got right before the reading! > > Outlandish as these coincidences may seem, another simpler > explanation is that the events of reality are also a dream where > we are creating them to suit our desires and fears. > > The illusion of world and events apart from the mind and having a > mind as a intentious thinker are dissolving even though very slowly. > > Thanks for being one of the first out in the open non-Indian > Rishi's who re-discover Vichara technique in precise ways. > I am not saying this to resurrect the ego which you might have > destroyed or prolong the one you are finding difficult to destroy. > > I am sharing this to say my experience follows your experience, so > the truth of single consciousness is getting affirmed. > > (P.S. I also visited Sri sadhu Om's Presence, on my first ever trip > yesterday to Ramanashram. > > Ravi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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