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[RamanaMaharshi] Back

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Dear Group

We have come back home from Ramanasramam.

A few notes on the last days there.

Thursday my morning meditation was very 'noisy'

with thoughts about

the visit and the upcoming return. After breakfast

we went again to

Virupaksha Cave and

Skandanasramam. In both places, mind was still

and meditation was deep.

I asked Nome about this later in the day. He has

reminded us to look,

during this trip, at our meditation and see what

makes it different.

He asks us to notice that it is not the place, but

rather our

internal approach to the meditation that makes the

difference. For

example, in visiting a holy place, one's mind

takes on a more holy

approach. This helps meditation. In today's

meditation in the cave,

he pointed out that before meditation, I had

formed the clear intent

to meditate, then going though some real effort to

get to where I was

to meditate. Then after the intent, the

preparation and the effort, I

had good meditation. I am reminded that travel is

not needed to have

intent and preparation prior to meditation.

Friday afternoon we left to make the long trip

back to the US. Before

we left, there was a special event for Nome. There was arranged a

reading of the Tamil Ribhu Gita, with English

copies provided so that

we could read along. They did this reading because

of the English

translation that Nome had done (along with Dr.

Ramamoorthy) that is

titled, "Song of Ribhu."

As I look back on the trip, I feel deep joy at the

visit. I feel that

Ramanasramam and Tiruvannamalai have a special

place in my heart, and

that Arunachala is somehow a part of my Being.

When we left, it was

like leaving home. We are talking now about how to

save for another

trip next year. I know that for this practice, the

place does not

matter. But the spiritual atmosphere, the warm and

spiritually

focused people, and the sites that I feel are holy

due to the

connection with Ramana make this place very

conducive to practice.

Another thing that made it a good trip for us is

that we took a

library of CD recordings of Nome's satsangs at

SAT. In the afternoons

we would listen to these. This certainly

contributed to the spiritual

focus.

The rest of the group will be at Ramanasramam for

another week. We

had to return earlier due to work needs. We will

keep meditating and

keep listing to CDs of Nome's satsangs.

Thank you for your many responses to my posting.

We are all blessed

by Ramana.

I will sign off in a way that was in an

inscription of a book:

>From Bagavan to Bagavan,

Not two,

Richard

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All of us , at RM group, have been closely following your posts regarding your

trip to Ramanashram. Thank you very much for sharing your experiances.

Here I would like to quote "Talks (Talk 273) with Sri Ramana Maharshi"

"Dr. Syed asked : I have been reading the Five Hymns. I find that the hymns are

addressed to Arunachala by you. You are an Advaitin. How do you then address

God as a seperate Being?

M.: The devotee, God and the Hymns are all the Self.

D.: But you are addressing God. You are specifying this Arunachala Hill as God.

M.: You can identify the Self with the body. Should not the devotee identify the

Self with Arunachala?

D.: If Arunachala be the Self why should it be specially picked out among so

many other hills? God is everywhere. Why do you specify Him as Arunachala?

M.: What has attracted you from Allahabad to this place? What has attracted all these people around?

D.: Sri Bhagavan.

M.: How was I attracted here? By Arunachala. The power cannot be denied. Again

Arunachala is within and not without. The Self is Arunachala."

Best Regards

Dora

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Bhagawan Ramana also says that Arunachala is within and not without. The Self is Arunachala.

A deciple expressed a desire to reside near Maharshi and asked for His blessings.

Maharshi said: A Higher Power is leading you. Be led by the same.

D.: But I am not aware of it. Please make me aware of it.

M.: The Higher Power knows what to do and how to do it. Trust it.

Best Regards

Dora

Joy Hicklin-Bailey <joy (AT) secretgarden (DOT) eu.com> wrote:

Dear all

I just wanted to say a little about my trip to India. I had planned to go to

Arunachala for 3 days after my work in the jungle was finished. Then, after I

returned from the jungle to Bangalore, various circumstances arose and it was

no longer possible to go to Tamil Nadu without feeling I was letting others

down badly.

This was very intense for me. I felt some shame, wrongness and sadness that this

time after such a strong intention I had failed to make it to the ashram. Ed and

Gabriele were writing about whether Ramana is with us all the time and the

journey doesn’t matter. This was my experience a lot of the time, and yet it

seems also true from other emails that the ashram provides even more support

for turning inward. It was good to see how much I, my ego, wanted to be a ‘good

devotee’ and that this was itself an obstruction. And also to see that there was

mainly acceptance and peace and a strong sense of Him anyway. Bhagavan was in my

awareness so much of my time and I was reading about Him and also from some of

His writings. Still there is at times a strong longing to make that journey as

soon possible. It will happen or not.

Anyway I am happy to share this with you, it felt strange not to own up!

With love and thanks

Joy

Richard Clarke [rclarke (AT) svcrm (DOT) com] 30 January 2005 17:16To:

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Dear GroupWe have come back home from Ramanasramam.A few notes on the last days

there.Thursday my morning meditation was very 'noisy' with thoughts about the

visit and the upcoming return. After breakfast we went again to Virupaksha Cave

and Skandanasramam. In both places, mind was still and meditation was deep. I

asked Nome about this later in the day. He has reminded us to look, during this

trip, at our meditation and see what makes it different. He asks us to notice

that it is not the place, but rather our internal approach to the meditation

that makes the difference. For example, in visiting a holy place, one's mind

takes on a more holy approach. This helps meditation. In today's meditation in

the cave, he pointed out that before meditation, I had formed the clear intent

to meditate, then going though some real effort to get to where I was to

meditate. Then after the intent, the preparation and the effort, I had good

meditation. I am reminded that travel is not needed to have intent and

preparation prior to meditation. Friday afternoon we left to make the long trip

back to the US. Before we left, there was a special event for Nome. There was

arranged a reading of the Tamil Ribhu Gita, with English copies provided so

that we could read along. They did this reading because of the English

translation that Nome had done (along with Dr. Ramamoorthy) that is titled,

"Song of Ribhu." As I look back on the trip, I feel deep joy at the visit. I

feel that Ramanasramam and Tiruvannamalai have a special place in my heart, and

that Arunachala

is somehow a part of my Being. When we left, it was like leaving home. We are

talking now about how to save for another trip next year. I know that for this

practice, the place does not matter. But the spiritual atmosphere, the warm and

spiritually focused people, and the sites that I feel are holy due to the

connection with Ramana make this place very conducive to practice.Another thing

that made it a good trip for us is that we took a library of CD recordings of

Nome's satsangs at SAT. In the afternoons we would listen to these. This

certainly contributed to the spiritual

New">focus.The rest of the group will be at Ramanasramam for another week. We

had to return earlier due to work needs. We will keep meditating and keep

listing to CDs of Nome's satsangs. Thank you for your many responses to my

posting. We are all blessed by Ramana.I will sign off in a way that was in an

inscription of a book:From Bagavan to Bagavan,Not two,RichardCommunity email

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Dear Dora,

For me, one of the best elements of the visit was rising early, going

to the roof of the guest house, and meditating (inquiring) facing

Arunachala.

Arunachala, I am told, has deep meaning as Consciousness. I found

that meditating with Arunachala was very good for me. Back in

California now, I miss the holy hill.

Not two,

Richard

RamanaMaharshi, swathi dora <doraksp>

wrote:

> Dear Richard,

>

> All of us , at RM group, have been closely following your posts

regarding your trip to Ramanashram. Thank you very much for sharing

your experiances.

>

> Here I would like to quote "Talks (Talk 273) with Sri Ramana

Maharshi"

>

> "Dr. Syed asked : I have been reading the Five Hymns. I find that

the hymns are addressed to Arunachala by you. You are an Advaitin.

How do you then address God as a seperate Being?

>

> M.: The devotee, God and the Hymns are all the Self.

>

> D.: But you are addressing God. You are specifying this Arunachala

Hill as God.

>

> M.: You can identify the Self with the body. Should not the devotee

identify the Self with Arunachala?

>

> D.: If Arunachala be the Self why should it be specially picked out

among so many other hills? God is everywhere. Why do you specify Him

as Arunachala?

>

> M.: What has attracted you from Allahabad to this place? What has

attracted all these people around?

>

> D.: Sri Bhagavan.

>

> M.: How was I attracted here? By Arunachala. The power cannot be

denied. Again Arunachala is within and not without. The Self is

Arunachala."

>

> Best Regards

>

> Dora

>

> Richard Clarke <rclarke@s...> wrote:

>

> Dear Group

>

> We have come back home from Ramanasramam.

>

> A few notes on the last days there.

>

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u (we) can never miss the holy hill. just sit for meditation and put a request

to u'r guru(arunachala) fir his dharshan and it will definitely happen....he

is always with us.....Richard Clarke <rclarke (AT) svcrm (DOT) com> wrote:

Dear Dora,For me, one of the best elements of the visit was rising early, going

to the roof of the guest house, and meditating (inquiring) facing Arunachala.

Arunachala, I am told, has deep meaning as Consciousness. I found that

meditating with Arunachala was very good for me. Back in California now, I miss

the holy hill. Not two,RichardRamanaMaharshi, swathi dora

<doraksp> wrote:> Dear Richard,> > All of us , at RM group, have been

closely following your posts regarding your trip to Ramanashram. Thank you very

much for sharing your experiances.> > Here I would like to quote "Talks (Talk

273) with Sri Ramana Maharshi"> > "Dr. Syed asked : I have been reading the

Five Hymns. I find that the hymns are

addressed to Arunachala by you. You are an Advaitin. How do you then address God

as a seperate Being?> > M.: The devotee, God and the Hymns are all the Self.>

> D.: But you are addressing God. You are specifying this Arunachala Hill as

God.> > M.: You can identify the Self with the body. Should not the devotee

identify the Self with Arunachala?> > D.: If Arunachala be the Self why should

it be specially picked out among so many other hills? God is everywhere. Why do

you specify Him as Arunachala?> > M.: What has attracted you from Allahabad to

this place? What has attracted all these people around?> > D.: Sri Bhagavan.>

> M.: How was I attracted here? By Arunachala. The power cannot be denied.

Again Arunachala is within and not without. The Self is Arunachala."> > Best

Regards> >

Dora> > Richard Clarke <rclarke@s...> wrote:> > > > Dear Group> > We have come

back home from Ramanasramam.> > A few notes on the last days there.> > > > > >

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31 January 2005 20:35

RE: [RamanaMaharshi] Back

from Ramanasramam

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Dear Joy,

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Bhagawan Ramana also says that Arunachala is

within and not without. The Self is Arunachala.

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A deciple expressed a desire to reside near Maharshi

and asked for His blessings.

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Maharshi said: A Higher Power is leading you. Be led

by the same.

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D.: But I am not aware of it. Please make me aware of

it.

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M.: The Higher Power knows what to do and how to do

it. Trust it.

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Best Regards

Dora

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Joy Hicklin-Bailey <joy (AT) secretgarden (DOT) eu.com> wrote:

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10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:blue">Dear all

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10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:blue">I just wanted to say a little about my

trip to India. I had planned to go to Arunachala for 3 days after my work in

the jungle was finished. Then, after I returned from the jungle to Bangalore,

various circumstances arose and it was no longer possible to go to Tamil Nadu

without feeling I was letting others down badly.

12.0pt">

10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:blue">This was very intense for me. I felt

some shame, wrongness and sadness that this time after such a strong intention

I had failed to make it to the ashram. Ed and Gabriele were writing about

whether Ramana is with us all the time and the journey doesn’t matter.

This was my experience a lot of the time, and yet it seems also true from other

emails that the ashram provides even more support for turning inward. It was

good to see how much I, my ego, wanted to be a ‘good devotee’ and

that this was itself an obstruction. And also to see that there was mainly

acceptance and peace and a strong sense of Him anyway. Bhagavan was in my

awareness so much of my time and I was reading about Him and also from some of

His writings. Still there is at times a strong longing to make that journey as

soon possible. It will happen or not.

12.0pt">

10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:blue">Anyway I am happy to share this with

you, it felt strange not to own up!

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10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:blue">With love and thanks

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10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:blue">Joy

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Richard Clarke [rclarke (AT) svcrm (DOT) com]

30 January 2005 17:16

[RamanaMaharshi] Back

from Ramanasramam

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Dear Group

We have come back home from Ramanasramam.

A few notes on the last days there.

Thursday my morning meditation was very 'noisy'

with thoughts about

the visit and the upcoming return. After breakfast

we went again to

Virupaksha Cave and

Skandanasramam. In both places, mind was still

and meditation was deep.

I asked Nome about this later in the day. He has

reminded us to look,

durin! g this trip, at our meditation and see what

makes it different.

He asks us to notice that it is not the place, but

rather our

internal approach to the meditation that makes the

difference. For

example, in visiting a holy place, one's mind

takes on a more holy

approach. This helps meditation. In today's

meditation in the cave,

he pointed out that before meditation, I had

formed the clear intent

to meditate, then going though some real effort to

get to where I was

to meditate. Then after the intent, the

preparation and the effort, I

had good meditation. I am reminded that travel is

not needed to have

intent and preparation prior to meditation.

Friday afternoon we left to make the long trip

back to the US. Before

we left, there was a special event for Nome. There was arranged a

reading of the Tamil Ribhu Gita, with English

copies provided so that

we could read along. They did this reading because

of the English

translation that Nome had done (along with Dr.

Ramamoorthy) that is

titled, "Song of Ribhu."

As I look back on the trip, I feel deep joy at the

visit. I feel that

Ramanasramam and Tiruvannamalai have a special

place in my heart, and

that Ar! unachala is somehow a part of my Being.

When we left, it was

like leaving home. We are talking now about how to

save for another

trip next year. I know that for this practice, the

place does not

matter. But the spiritual atmosphere, the warm and

spiritually

focused people, and the sites that I feel are holy

due to the

connection with Ramana make this place very

conducive to practice.

Another thing that made it a good trip for us is

that we took a

library of CD recordings of Nome's satsangs at

SAT. In the afternoons

we would listen to these. This certainly

contributed to the spiritual

focus.

The rest of the group will be at Ramanasramam for

another week. We

had to return earlier due to work needs. We will

keep meditating and

keep listing to CDs of Nome's satsangs.

Thank you for your many responses to my posting.

We are all blessed

by Ramana.

I will sign off in a way that was in an

inscription of a book:

>From Bagavan to Bagavan,

Not two,

Richard

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