Guest guest Posted February 28, 2005 Report Share Posted February 28, 2005 Dear Members, found this just so helpful ... so forwarding it to here. The great battle ... yours in Sri Ramana Gabriele Meditation and the Self (cont'd)Q: Why is it that sometimes I find concentration on the Self so easy, and at other times hopelessly difficult? M: Because of vasanas (inherent tendencies). But really, it is easy, since we are the Self. All we have to do is to remember that. We keep on forgetting it, and thus think we are this body, or this ego. If the will and desire to remember the Self are strong enough, they will eventually overcome vasanas. There must be a great battle going on inwardly all the time until the Self is realized. This battle is symbolically spoken of in scriptural writings as the fight between God and Satan. In our texts, it is the Mahabharata, in which the asuras (demons) represent our bad thoughts and the devas (gods) our elevated ones.~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~From the book, "Conscious Immortality" by Paul Brunton and Munagala Venkataramiah, published by Sri Ramanasramam, Tiruvannamalai, South India. This book is now out of print and is not scheduled to be reprinted. For other books by or about Sri Ramana Maharshi and his teaching, please visit our web site bookstore: http://www.aham.com/bookstore/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2005 Report Share Posted February 28, 2005 Hi there Gabriele You do not know me. I have not been a member of the group for long. I am a friend of Father Christopher with whom you have corresponded from time to time. I, too, have been engaged in the process of reconciling my Christian beliefs with the teachings of Bhagavan, and I am most grateful to Him for enabling me a much greater insight into my faith. I just wanted to say that the book "Conscious Immortality" by Paul Brunton and Munagala Venkataramiah is in fact available from 'Books beyond Words' - Webpage address is: http://www.booksbeyondwords.com/home.htm I have just received a copy from them - total cost $19.90. You (and all other members of our group) may care to try them - they are very helpful. Nice to communicate with you. In Him Trevor Trevor H. Jones thjones RamanaMaharshi, "gabriele ebert" <g.ebert@g...> wrote: > Daily Message for Transforming the Mind #1388Dear Members, > > found this just so helpful ... so forwarding it to here. The great battle ... > > yours in Sri Ramana > Gabriele > > > Meditation and the Self (cont'd) > > Q: Why is it that sometimes I find concentration on the Self so easy, and at other times hopelessly difficult? > > M: Because of vasanas (inherent tendencies). But really, it is easy, since we are the Self. All we have to do is to remember that. We keep on forgetting it, and thus think we are this body, or this ego. If the will and desire to remember the Self are strong enough, they will eventually overcome vasanas. There must be a great battle going on inwardly all the time until the Self is realized. This battle is symbolically spoken of in scriptural writings as the fight between God and Satan. In our texts, it is the Mahabharata, in which the asuras (demons) represent our bad thoughts and the devas (gods) our elevated ones. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > From the book, "Conscious Immortality" by Paul Brunton and Munagala Venkataramiah, published by Sri Ramanasramam, Tiruvannamalai, South India. This book is now out of print and is not scheduled to be reprinted. For other books by or about Sri Ramana Maharshi and his teaching, please visit our web site bookstore: http://www.aham.com/bookstore/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2005 Report Share Posted February 28, 2005 Hi there once again Gabriele Going to the site of BOOKSBEYONDWORDS you will have to click on 'pick a topic' and scroll down to Ramana Maharshi. You will see all their books on Bhagavan listed including "Conscious Immortality" In Him, Trevor -- In RamanaMaharshi, "gabriele ebert" <g.ebert@g...> wrote: > Daily Message for Transforming the Mind #1388Dear Members, > > found this just so helpful ... so forwarding it to here. The great battle ... > > yours in Sri Ramana > Gabriele > > > Meditation and the Self (cont'd) > > Q: Why is it that sometimes I find concentration on the Self so easy, and at other times hopelessly difficult? > > M: Because of vasanas (inherent tendencies). But really, it is easy, since we are the Self. All we have to do is to remember that. We keep on forgetting it, and thus think we are this body, or this ego. If the will and desire to remember the Self are strong enough, they will eventually overcome vasanas. There must be a great battle going on inwardly all the time until the Self is realized. This battle is symbolically spoken of in scriptural writings as the fight between God and Satan. In our texts, it is the Mahabharata, in which the asuras (demons) represent our bad thoughts and the devas (gods) our elevated ones. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > From the book, "Conscious Immortality" by Paul Brunton and Munagala Venkataramiah, published by Sri Ramanasramam, Tiruvannamalai, South India. This book is now out of print and is not scheduled to be reprinted. For other books by or about Sri Ramana Maharshi and his teaching, please visit our web site bookstore: http://www.aham.com/bookstore/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2005 Report Share Posted February 28, 2005 Hi, once again Gabriele I meant click on 'Choose a Section' in the booksbeyondwords Website-- - re 'Concious Immortality' Sorry about that! Please let me know if you are successful. Trevor thjones In RamanaMaharshi, "gabriele ebert" <g.ebert@g...> wrote: > Daily Message for Transforming the Mind #1388Dear Members, > > found this just so helpful ... so forwarding it to here. The great battle ... > > yours in Sri Ramana > Gabriele > > > Meditation and the Self (cont'd) > > Q: Why is it that sometimes I find concentration on the Self so easy, and at other times hopelessly difficult? > > M: Because of vasanas (inherent tendencies). But really, it is easy, since we are the Self. All we have to do is to remember that. We keep on forgetting it, and thus think we are this body, or this ego. If the will and desire to remember the Self are strong enough, they will eventually overcome vasanas. There must be a great battle going on inwardly all the time until the Self is realized. This battle is symbolically spoken of in scriptural writings as the fight between God and Satan. In our texts, it is the Mahabharata, in which the asuras (demons) represent our bad thoughts and the devas (gods) our elevated ones. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > From the book, "Conscious Immortality" by Paul Brunton and Munagala Venkataramiah, published by Sri Ramanasramam, Tiruvannamalai, South India. This book is now out of print and is not scheduled to be reprinted. For other books by or about Sri Ramana Maharshi and his teaching, please visit our web site bookstore: http://www.aham.com/bookstore/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2005 Report Share Posted March 2, 2005 Dear Trevor, nice to see a new "face" here on board. Yes, it is a very good book. Thanks for information where it can be ordered. It is hard to get. Ramanashram doesn't have it to sell. Yes, Bhagavan drives the Christians back into the heart of Christianity. yours in Sri Ramana Gabriele - irenelloyd4 RamanaMaharshi Monday, February 28, 2005 11:41 PM [RamanaMaharshi] Re: the great battle ... Hi there GabrieleYou do not know me. I have not been a member of the group for long.I am a friend of Father Christopher with whom you have corresponded from time to time. I, too, have been engaged in the process of reconciling my Christian beliefs with the teachings of Bhagavan, and I am most grateful to Him for enabling me a much greater insight into my faith.I just wanted to say that the book "Conscious Immortality" by Paul Brunton and Munagala Venkataramiah is in fact available from 'Books beyond Words' - Webpage address is:http://www.booksbeyondwords.com/home.htmI have just received a copy from them - total cost $19.90.You (and all other members of our group) may care to try them - they are very helpful.Nice to communicate with you.In HimTrevorTrevor H. Jonesthjones (AT) ntlworld (DOT) com--- In RamanaMaharshi, "gabriele ebert" <g.ebert@g...> wrote:> Daily Message for Transforming the Mind #1388Dear Members,> > found this just so helpful ... so forwarding it to here. The great battle ... > > yours in Sri Ramana> Gabriele> > > Meditation and the Self (cont'd)> > Q: Why is it that sometimes I find concentration on the Self so easy, and at other times hopelessly difficult? > > M: Because of vasanas (inherent tendencies). But really, it is easy, since we are the Self. All we have to do is to remember that. We keep on forgetting it, and thus think we are this body, or this ego. If the will and desire to remember the Self are strong enough, they will eventually overcome vasanas. There must be a great battle going on inwardly all the time until the Self is realized. This battle is symbolically spoken of in scriptural writings as the fight between God and Satan. In our texts, it is the Mahabharata, in which the asuras (demons) represent our bad thoughts and the devas (gods) our elevated ones.> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> > From the book, "Conscious Immortality" by Paul Brunton and Munagala Venkataramiah, published by Sri Ramanasramam, Tiruvannamalai, South India. This book is now out of print and is not scheduled to be reprinted. For other books by or about Sri Ramana Maharshi and his teaching, please visit our web site bookstore: http://www.aham.com/bookstore/index.htmlCommunity email addresses: Post message: RamanaMaharshi Subscribe: RamanaMaharshi- Un: RamanaMaharshi List owner: RamanaMaharshi-ownerShortcut URL to this page: http://www./community/RamanaMaharshi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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