Who is this witness?

[Guest guest]

11th MARCH 1936

 

M.: Who is this witness? You speak of ‘witness’. There must be an

object and a subject to witness. These are creations of the mind. The

idea of witness is in the mind. If there was the witness of oblivion

did he say, ‘I witness oblivion’? You, with your mind, said just now

that there must be a witness. Who was the witness? You must reply ‘I’.

Who is that ‘I’ again? You are identifying yourself with the ego and

say ‘I’. Is this ego ‘I’, the witness? It is the mind that speaks. It

cannot be witness of itself. With self-imposed limitations you think

that there is a witness of mind and of oblivion. You also say, “I am

the witness’’. That one who witnesses the oblivion must say, “I witness

oblivion’’. The present mind cannot arrogate to itself that position.

The whole position becomes thus untenable. Consciousness is unlimited.

On becoming limited it simply arrogates to itself the position. There

is really nothing to witness. IT is simple BEING.

 

(from Talks 180)

 

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'The highest Truth... is realising that, 'there is neither destruction,

nor production; neither one who is bound by the fetters of existence,

nor one who has perfected release from them; indeed, there is neither a

seeker after Liberation, nor one who is liberated.' (amrtabindu

upanishad)

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