Guest guest Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 Hello everyone; I can't remember if I or someone else has already asked this. Are there any living saints in India or abroad that could be the same level as Ananda Maye, Ramana Maharshi, Swami Sivananda, Parmahansa Yogananda, and so on that you know of , in India , or Canada or other parts of the world. I did several searches on the net, but could not find anything. Siva Siva, Zoya. "The Self is always realized. Look within and be still! - Bhagavan Sri Ramana Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. http://www.advision.webevents./emoticontest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 Zoya wrote: > Hello everyone; > > I can't remember if I or someone else has already > asked this. > > Are there any living saints in India or abroad that > could be the same level as Ananda Maye, Ramana > Maharshi, Swami Sivananda, Parmahansa Yogananda, and > so on that you know of , in India , or Canada or other > parts of the world. > > I did several searches on the net, but could not find > anything. > > Siva Siva, > Zoya. > > "The Self is always realized. Look within and be still! > - Bhagavan Sri Ramana > The answer to your question is in the quote above. Love, Harsha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 Ramana taught that there is only one indivisible Self, and it is within everything. Undivided by the manyness of forms, just as an ocean is not divided by 'skins' around each drop. The body is one such form; material and therefore immaterial. It is of no concern to a Master whether His body is attached. Rather like dividing census figures into humans awake or sleeping. It matters only to a person who considers himself part of the world whether he makes enquiries from a living or 'dead' master; an awake or sleeping man. Enlightenment can come from study of either, even a rock (Ramana's guru was a mountain, since the Self is the only existent 'thing', and - being everywhere - can hardly be 'lost' or 'found'. What seems certain, is that the game of frustration, effort, 'separation'and search, is an essential part of enlightenment, just as it is difficult to wake up unless there is discomfort to cause it. --- Zoya <mountainechoes wrote: Hello everyone; I can't remember if I or someone else has already asked this. Are there any living saints in India or abroad that could be the same level as Ananda Maye, Ramana Maharshi, Swami Sivananda, Parmahansa Yogananda, and so on that you know of , in India , or Canada or other parts of the world. I did several searches on the net, but could not find anything. Siva Siva, Zoya. "The Self is always realized. Look within and be still! - Bhagavan Sri Ramana Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. http://www.advision.webevents./emoticontest Post message: RamanaMaharshi Subscribe: RamanaMaharshi- Un: RamanaMaharshi List owner: RamanaMaharshi-owner Shortcut URL to this page: http://www./community/RamanaMaharshi Sponsor Children International Would you give Hope to a Child in need? · Click Here to meet a Girl And Give Her Hope · Click Here to meet a Boy And Change His Life Learn More RamanaMaharshi/ RamanaMaharshi Terms of Service. Find local movie times and trailers on Movies. http://au.movies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 There is no separate self. How can that which does not exist wake up? Who is there to wake up? RamanaMaharshi, Nasrudin <nasrudin3> wrote: > Ramana taught that there is only one indivisible Self, > and it is within everything. Undivided by the manyness > of forms, just as an ocean is not divided by 'skins' > around each drop. The body is one such form; material > and therefore immaterial. It is of no concern to a > Master whether His body is attached. Rather like > dividing census figures into humans awake or sleeping. > It matters only to a person who considers himself part > of the world whether he makes enquiries from a living > or 'dead' master; an awake or sleeping man. > Enlightenment can come from study of either, even a > rock (Ramana's guru was a mountain, since the Self is > the only existent 'thing', and - being everywhere - > can hardly be 'lost' or 'found'. What seems certain, > is that the game of frustration, effort, > 'separation'and search, is an essential part of > enlightenment, just as it is difficult to wake up > unless there is discomfort to cause it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2005 Report Share Posted April 12, 2005 Dear Group, If I may comment. While it is surly true that the guru is within ... I am one who has the great good fortune to have a living teacher. He would not identify as some kind of personal entity, though. He might say that there is only the appearance of a separate teacher and seeker as long as the seeker still needs to inquire. For this seeker, it has been vital to hear the teaching again and again, and to reflect upon it and ask questions of the teacher. And to inquire in deep meditation. Certainly the Self is Within. For me the teacher has shown the truth of Within to me, and shown me how to look. But it is this seeker who must look Within, as long as there is the idea of a separate self to look. I have been 'on this path' for about 15 years. I feel like the first 10 years we 'getting ready;' listening and reflecting, too much mental and not enough experiential, expecially in my own practice, away from the teacher. With the teacher, I often find the sense of nondual 'depth' beyond what I find in my own practice. Maybe 5 years ago, when I really started a daily practice of inquiry, I felt some sense of progress, some sence of peace spreading through 'my life.' A few months ago, since returning from Ramanasramam, I feel more deepening. My desire for liberation is so much stronger, and thereby practice is naturally somehow deeper. More inquiry, less distration by 'the world.' For me, the teacher has shown me the Truth of Being, he stands as that Truth, and not any kind of 'personal entity.' I have had the grace of Ramana, and been brought to a teacher who shows me the Self. I feel like without the teacher, I never would have found Ramana, or if I did, I would not have recognized what is there. I feel the greatest regard for my teacher and for Ramana. I feel that without my teacher, the door to Rmana would not have opened in this life. Still, in regard to Ramana, while in Tirvunammalai, my teacher did not teach. He said that in Ramanasramam, there is onlyh one Guru, Ramana. Not two, Richard RamanaMaharshi, > > Hello everyone; > > I can't remember if I or someone else has already > asked this. > > Are there any living saints in India or abroad that > could be the same level as Ananda Maye, Ramana > Maharshi, Swami Sivananda, Parmahansa Yogananda, and > so on that you know of , in India , or Canada or other > parts of the world. > > I did several searches on the net, but could not find > anything. > > Siva Siva, > Zoya. > > "The Self is always realized. Look within and be > still! > - Bhagavan Sri Ramana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2005 Report Share Posted April 12, 2005 Hello everyone; I want to thank all of you who have tried to reply to this posting. I am a Ramana devotee and as such I am familiar with his teachings and advaita and self inquiry. I understand that the guru is within, but even when I was in Ramanasramam, the president of the ashram accepted a swami, named swami shantananda of puri of the order of Ramakrishna to live in the ashram for many months and give teachings and even accept his own disciples who were ramana devotees visiting the ashram! Even at times of Ramana, many devotees used to visit other living gurus, such as Balaramam Reddy and Sri Aurobindo, and many other examples. There may be many reasons for this. Some cannot do self inquiry, some would have more than one guru or simply different sayings of the same thing opened up their views on spirituality and advaita vedanata or even Self Inquiry. So I am surprised when people constantly emphasize Self Inquiry or attack each other with words, or even judge each other even in the light of the teachings! Seekers seeked a living guru and they came to find Ramana, many already had read advaita. For me Ramana is always living in the spirit, but I find no harm to attend satsang of spiritually advanced souls ... SO I welcome anyone who can also keep me in touch regarding living saints. Siva Siva, Zoya. --- Zoya <mountainechoes wrote: > Hello everyone; > > I can't remember if I or someone else has already > asked this. > > Are there any living saints in India or abroad that > could be the same level as Ananda Maye, Ramana > Maharshi, Swami Sivananda, Parmahansa Yogananda, and > so on that you know of , in India , or Canada or > other > parts of the world. > > I did several searches on the net, but could not > find > anything. > > Siva Siva, > Zoya. > > "The Self is always realized. Look within and be > still! > - Bhagavan Sri Ramana > > > > > Messenger > Show us what our next emoticon should look like. > Join the fun. > http://www.advision.webevents./emoticontest > "The Self is always realized. Look within and be still! - Bhagavan Sri Ramana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2005 Report Share Posted April 12, 2005 Zoya wrote: > So I am surprised when people constantly emphasize > Self Inquiry or attack each other with words, or even > judge each other even in the light of the teachings! You may be seeing an attack where none was intended. I simply made an informative comment about a website that people were directed to for a "living guru" as the orientation of the website is not consistent with Sri Ramana's teaching. That was a factual point. This site (Sri Ramana site here) is dedicated to Sri Ramana's teachings. Bhagavan himself commented (critically) at times on other teachings, including that of Aurbindo. He was not being critical of the teacher but showing the superficiality of some of the so called "advanced teachings" when compared to simply inquiry into the nature of the "I". > > Seekers seeked a living guru and they came to find > Ramana, many already had read advaita. > > For me Ramana is always living in the spirit, but I > find no harm to attend satsang of spiritually advanced > souls ... That's wonderful Zoya. No one actually suggested or said that there is harm in your attending satsang with anyone you want. > > SO I welcome anyone who can also keep me in touch > regarding living saints. > > Siva Siva, > Zoya. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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