'Dehatma Buddhi' and the Jnani

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D.: Is there no dehatma buddhi (I-am-the-body idea) for the jnani? If, for

instance, Sri Bhagavan be bitten by an insect, is there no sensation?

 

M.: There is the sensation and there is also the dehatma buddhi. The

latter is common to both jnani and ajnani with this difference, that the

ajnani thinks dehaiva Atma (only the body is myself), whereas the jnani

knows all is of the Self (Atmamayam sarvam) or (sarvam khalvidam Brahma) all

this is Brahma. If there be pain let it be. It is also part of the Self.

The Self is poorna (perfect).

(extract from Talks no. 383, posted yesterday)

 

 

In Forty Verses on Reality, Sri Ramana explains this point further...

 

17 (22) The body is the Self, both to him that does not know the Self and

to him that knows. The one that knows believes himself to be limited to the

body and distinct from God and All. To the knower of the Real Self within,

He shines as the infinite Being, not other than God. Great indeed is the

difference between the knower of the Self and the non-knower!

 

(from Revelation, Sri Lakshman Sarma)

[Guest guest]

John

color:navy">,  thanks for spotting my mistake.  I will be more careful next

time!

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Peter

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[Guest guest]

Om Namo Bhagavathe Sri Ramanaaya

 

Thanks for this, Peter.

 

Unfortunately, Lakshmana Sarma’s words have not been correctly typed here, and

the meaning has therefore become non-sensical. It is important to see the

negative here!

 

Here it is, with corrections in red:

 

The body is the Self, both to him that does not know the Self andto him that

knows. The one that knows not believes himself to be limited to thebody and

distinct from God the All. To the knower of the Real Self within,He shines as

the infinite Being, not other than God. Great indeed is thedifference between

the knower of the Self and the non-knower!

 

A misleading post was made a couple of weeks back to another verse in ulladu

narpadu, (verse 8) in that the context of the venba with reference to what

Bhagavan was saying was quite misunderstood. I shall post this when I get round

to it.

 

Many thanks to the member who spotted the error and wrote in about it.

 

anbudan

 

John

 

Siva—Siva

 

 

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Peter M.

RamanaMaharshi

Tuesday, May 24, 2005 1:49 PM

[RamanaMaharshi] 'Dehatma Buddhi' and the Jnani

D.: Is there no dehatma buddhi (I-am-the-body idea) for the jnani? If,

forinstance, Sri Bhagavan be bitten by an insect, is there no sensation?M.:

There is the sensation and there is also the dehatma buddhi. Thelatter is

common to both jnani and ajnani with this difference, that theajnani thinks

dehaiva Atma (only the body is myself), whereas the jnaniknows all is of the

Self (Atmamayam sarvam) or (sarvam khalvidam Brahma) allthis is Brahma. If

there be pain let it be. It is also part of the Self.The Self is poorna

(perfect).(extract from Talks no. 383, posted yesterday)In Forty Verses on

Reality, Sri Ramana explains this point further...17 (22) The body is the

Self, both to him that does not know the Self andto him that knows. The one

that knows believes himself to be limited to thebody and distinct from God and

All. To the knower of the Real Self within,He shines as the infinite Being,

not other than God. Great indeed is thedifference between the knower of the

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