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Dear Sundar

 

I have found Ramana's image of the salt doll (thoughts) being thrown into

the sea and dissolving to be very useful.

 

I also try to relax my eyes and stomach when meditating on the Self.

Recently, I made a simple chart of my personal consciousness, the Jungian

concept

of the personal and collective unconscious, and the point of fusion with

Ramana's teaching on the Self.

 

We must all continue on the Path, however difficult the obstacles, which is

why Who Am I? is of such supreme importance.

 

With best wishes

 

Dougie

 

 

 

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Friends,

 

One way in which I can explain my understanding of Sri Ramana is as

follows:

>From a tiny seed, grows a huge tree. There is no 'person or entity'

in the tree.

 

>From an egg, a human body develops. Situations arise. Decisions are

taken. Actions take place.

 

It is entirely possible for all this to happen without a 'person or

entity' necessarily present.

 

However, a thought stream called 'a person' somehow has formed,

claiming doership, causing emotions, mood swings, ups and downs - on

balance, more downs than ups.

 

The so called 'we' could just be thought streams.

 

Infusion of such a thought could keep the emotions in check.

 

For full benefits, the sense of 'person' has to be completely absent.

 

This continues to appear as a distant dream.

 

I am looking forward to any helpful hints in this regard.

 

sundar

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Sundar,

It is obvious upon investigation that there is nothing outside the mind.

Therefore, even the mind is in the mind. Furthermore, the notion of other

minds is also in the mind. Therefore, there is only one mind containing all

minds. Even spirituality is in the mind. Whether this one mind is called God

, awareness or One Mind is immaterial. Everything is create in and by that

one mind and one mind can create anything or nothing. The urge towards

liberation, within one mind, is the urge for one mind to know its own

essense or source. To know the arbitary and unnecessary nature of one mind's

creation is to be free and break the spell that one mind puts itself under.

Whether that creation be created and viewed through religion, science or

whatever makes no ultimate difference.

One mind creates the notion of many minds, many minds create diversity.

 

Louis

 

 

 

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