Guest guest Posted April 13, 2006 Report Share Posted April 13, 2006 Dear Group, I am a Ramana devotee but I think one should not take every word Ramana uttered as addressed to everyone.. I am sure if I had met Ramana he wouldn't have asked me to do the Gayatri mantra because I don't like sanskrit and I am averse to hindu tradition.. although officially I am a hindu.. This person who came to Ramana was someone who was into doing pooja and that sort of thing I suppose. I think it may be a good aid to still the mind but what if one's conditioning makes one averse to religious symbols and poojas and mantras. I have always felt Ramana had only one thing to say to the genuine seeker which was that he should do the vichara and he said it was the most direct method to knowing the self.. However for some ...I think the people given to doing poojas etc..they preferred more traditional methods. alec > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2006 Report Share Posted April 13, 2006 Dear Alec, I am certain that what you way is correct. Ramana generously give instruction that was intended for the particular seeker he addresses. His instructions 'lift' them out of the particular misidentification from which they ask the question, and direct them to the Self. So, if body identified, "Are you the body?" If doing japa, "Who does japa?" etc. What a blessing! The mind's questions can never be resolved at the level of the mind. Something much deeper is required. Peace is found as the Self. Not two, Richard Original Message: ----------------- alakeshwar jayanarayan alakeshwar Thu, 13 Apr 2006 05:53:58 -0700 (PDT) RamanaMaharshi [RamanaMaharshi] the Gayatri Dear Group, I am a Ramana devotee but I think one should not take every word Ramana uttered as addressed to everyone.. I am sure if I had met Ramana he wouldn't have asked me to do the Gayatri mantra because I don't like sanskrit and I am averse to hindu tradition.. although officially I am a hindu.. This person who came to Ramana was someone who was into doing pooja and that sort of thing I suppose. I think it may be a good aid to still the mind but what if one's conditioning makes one averse to religious symbols and poojas and mantras. I have always felt Ramana had only one thing to say to the genuine seeker which was that he should do the vichara and he said it was the most direct method to knowing the self.. However for some ...I think the people given to doing poojas etc..they preferred more traditional methods. alec > > > ....something is sounding, or shining, as 'I-I', in the Heart... -- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2006 Report Share Posted April 13, 2006 Sanskrit we call it Nad Brahm . The name and the thing are not sepearte. If you can produce the sound of fire acurately; fire will appear. That is how Indian classical singers are said to have produced fire, rain, storms through their music. Om is the primordial sound associated with God . The mantras incorporate both the above aspects in their composition and hence the emphasis on their correct pronunciation. sincerely , BRIJ John <ramanachala (AT) onetel (DOT) com> wrote: >This person who> came to Ramana was someone who was into doing pooja> and that sort of thing I suppose.Indeed, Sir, Ramana always tailors the response according to the position and understanding of the seeker.>I have always felt Ramana had only> one thing to say to the genuine seeker which was that> he should do the vichara and he said it was the most> direct method to knowing the self.Absoluely. The Vichara is the "Prime Directive"; and practising it quietly is much to be recommended, instead of indulging in endless polemics.anbudanJohnSiva...Siva Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2006 Report Share Posted April 13, 2006 John, 'polemics' might be too harsh a word to use for Gayatri mantra which is so non-sectarian. As per wikipedia, "Polemic is the art or practice of inciting disputation or causing controversy, for example in religious, philosophical, or political matters." Love Sachin ---- John 04/13/06 20:11:16 RamanaMaharshi [RamanaMaharshi] Re: the Gayatri Absoluely. The Vichara is the "Prime Directive"; and practising it quietly is much to be recommended, instead of indulging in endless polemics.anbudanJohnSiva...Siva Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2006 Report Share Posted April 13, 2006 Indeed, Sachin. The word 'polemics' must have been from another thread, not this one. - Sachin Chavan RamanaMaharshi Thursday, April 13, 2006 6:32 PM Re: [RamanaMaharshi] Re: the Gayatri Sachin Chavan RamanaMaharshi Thursday, April 13, 2006 6:32 PM Re: [RamanaMaharshi] Re: the Gayatri John, 'polemics' might be too harsh a word to use for Gayatri mantra which is so non-sectarian. As per wikipedia, "Polemic is the art or practice of inciting disputation or causing controversy, for example in religious, philosophical, or political matters." Love Sachin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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