Fwd: [tiruvengadam] "tirunakshatram" of Nrsimhan & Krishna & the AzhwAr

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--- "Sudarshan M.K." <sampathkumar_2000 wrote:

> tiruvengadam

> "Sudarshan M.K." <sampathkumar_2000

> Sun, 18 Mar 2001 09:26:40 -0000

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> [tiruvengadam] "tirunakshatram" of Nrsimhan & Krishna &

> the AzhwAr

>

>

> Dear friends,

>

> I have a trivial doubt which may please be clarified by the

> kind and learned ones in the group, if possible.

>

> The 'purAna' tells us that the 'tirunakshatram' (natal asterism) of

> Lakshminrsimhan and Krishna is "svAti" and "rohini" respectively.

>

> But 'peria-AzhwAr' in his 'tiruppallAndu', in Stanza 6, through the

> line:

>

> 'tiruvOna-tiruvizhavil anthiyam pOdhil ariyuru-Agi ariyai

> azhittavanai...'

>

> seems to suggest that Lord Nrsimhan's avatAra occured under the

> asterism of "tiruvOnam".

>

> Similarly, in the 2nd hymn of the 'peria-azhwAr tirumOzhi'

> beginning with the line "vanna madangal..." where the birth of

Krishna is celebrated, the AzhwAr in the 3rd stanza sings:

>

> "... aaN OppAr ivan nEr illai kAn, tiruvONatthAn ulagu-AllUm

> enbArgaLE".

>

> In the above line too, the AzhwAr seems to suggest that the child

> Krishna was born under the asterism of "tiruvOnam" rather than

> 'rohini', as generally believed.

>

> AdiyEN would like to know why the AzhwAr thought it fit to

> deliberately introduce an element of inaccuracy in his poetic

> lines. It does heighten the contextual effect, no doubt, especially

since we know that Sriman Narayana's asterism is believed to be

'tiruvOnam' and it is He that avatars as Nrsimha and Krishna.

Nevertheless, there must be some insightful 'vyAkhyAna' behind this

"poetic anomaly" of peria-AzhwAr?

 

Can anyone please explain?

Thanks and regards,

 

dAsan,

Sudarshan

 

 

 

 

 

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Daasasya Vigyapanam. Azhwars' words are cent percent truth nothing but

truth. There cannot be any anomaly. Scholars explain the 6th stanza of

Thiruppallandu as"Let us sing in adoration of Him to ward off all our

limitations, Him who assumed a lion's form and destroyed His enemy,

Hiranyakasipu, at the time of a pleasant evening-twilight during the grand

Tiruvonam festival' Though Swaathi is the birth-star of Nrisimha,

Periazhwar ascribes sravana to Him, for Vishnu is the principal deity of

Sravana Nakshatra and Nrisimha is an avathaara of Vishnu. In two places

elsewhere, it is referred to as 'vittathin ettam nall' - meaning eighth star

from Avittam(sravishta) thereby referring to Rohini. Like-wise the saying

Athathin Patthaam nall refers to tenth star from Hastham- referring to

Thiruvonam. I have heard Upanyasakars explaining that since the child

Krishna was exposed to danger, His 'elders' in the cowherd family didnot

want to refer to Rohini directly

Hence indulgence in number game hiding the real star so that no

evil(referring to Rohini or Thiruvonam) will befall on Krishna. It my be

mentioned that Periazhwar adored Lord Krishna as his foster-child. I stand

to be corrected. Dasan Devanathan.

 

>sampath kumar <sampathkumar_2000

>

>

> Fwd: [tiruvengadam] "tirunakshatram" of Nrsimhan &

>Krishna & the AzhwAr

>Sun, 18 Mar 2001 01:36:26 -0800 (PST)

>

>

>--- "Sudarshan M.K." <sampathkumar_2000 wrote:

> > tiruvengadam

> > "Sudarshan M.K." <sampathkumar_2000

> > Sun, 18 Mar 2001 09:26:40 -0000

> > Reply-to: tiruvengadam

> > [tiruvengadam] "tirunakshatram" of Nrsimhan & Krishna &

> > the AzhwAr

> >

> >

> > Dear friends,

> >

> > I have a trivial doubt which may please be clarified by the

> > kind and learned ones in the group, if possible.

> >

> > The 'purAna' tells us that the 'tirunakshatram' (natal asterism) of

> > Lakshminrsimhan and Krishna is "svAti" and "rohini" respectively.

> >

> > But 'peria-AzhwAr' in his 'tiruppallAndu', in Stanza 6, through the

> > line:

> >

> > 'tiruvOna-tiruvizhavil anthiyam pOdhil ariyuru-Agi ariyai

> > azhittavanai...'

> >

> > seems to suggest that Lord Nrsimhan's avatAra occured under the

> > asterism of "tiruvOnam".

> >

> > Similarly, in the 2nd hymn of the 'peria-azhwAr tirumOzhi'

> > beginning with the line "vanna madangal..." where the birth of

>Krishna is celebrated, the AzhwAr in the 3rd stanza sings:

> >

> > "... aaN OppAr ivan nEr illai kAn, tiruvONatthAn ulagu-AllUm

> > enbArgaLE".

> >

> > In the above line too, the AzhwAr seems to suggest that the child

> > Krishna was born under the asterism of "tiruvOnam" rather than

> > 'rohini', as generally believed.

> >

> > AdiyEN would like to know why the AzhwAr thought it fit to

> > deliberately introduce an element of inaccuracy in his poetic

> > lines. It does heighten the contextual effect, no doubt, especially

>since we know that Sriman Narayana's asterism is believed to be

>'tiruvOnam' and it is He that avatars as Nrsimha and Krishna.

>Nevertheless, there must be some insightful 'vyAkhyAna' behind this

>"poetic anomaly" of peria-AzhwAr?

>

>Can anyone please explain?

>Thanks and regards,

>

>dAsan,

>Sudarshan

>

>

>

>

>

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