Guest guest Posted May 13, 2001 Report Share Posted May 13, 2001 Dear Bhagavatas: It is amazing that the posting on "Beef in McDonald's French fries" had generated an animated discussion through numerous responses leading to the dietary regimen one should follow. I have written exhaustively on the subject in my book "Hinduism Rediscovered" Vide "Ch. 15: The 'Trigunas' and the Dietary regimen" Excerpts have been archived at "Srivaishnava.org/sgati". I am sure you will find answers to most of your questions on the subject. I would request you kindly to go through these and if you need any further clarifications, please feel free to correspond with me personally at "Sri_Ranga_Sri" Please go to www.Srivaishnava.org/sgati Click on SDDS Volume 2 Table of Contents (TOC) Go to the following issues on "Chapter 15 "Triguna and Ahara Niyamam" Issue 11 Sec. 1.Trigunas Issue 12 Sec 2.How to find what Gunas govern a person -Lord Krishna diagnoses Issue 13 "Aahaaraniyamam - Lord Krishna prescribes" Issue 14 "What our Sastras permit/prohibit in the matter of food – The "Conclusion" is reproduced here for your information: "SECTION 5: CONCLUSION As already mentioned these prohibitions and restrictions are only for your guidance. If you desire to cultivate the Satvika Guna and regulate / eliminate Rajasic and Thamasic Gunas, you may choose to follow the instructions and if you do not follow ONLY YOU are the loser to that extent. The doctor can only help in diagnosing the disease and prescribing appropriate medicines. If the patient desires an expeditious and effective cure, the patient will have to scrupulously follow the instructions. THE PATIENT IS FREE EITHER TO FOLLOW OR FLOUT THE INSTRUCTIONS, WITH ATTENDANT CONSEQUENCES. AND, NOW IT IS IN YOUR HANDS TO CHOOSE EITHER COURSE ON THE ROAD TO YOUR SPRITUAL REGENERATION OR DEGENERATION" ========= ON THE QUESTION OF AHIMSA: Your attention is also invited to Chapter 13 ibid "Samanya Dharma and Sanatana Dharma" (Eternal Ordinary duties) where in Section 2.2 "Ahimsa Paramo Dharmah (Non-violence), the subject has been dealt with at length. You will find excerpts at the same SDDS Volume 2 Issue # 9 dated 17th January 1997. This, however,is reproduced here for your information. "2.2. AHIMSA PARAMO DHARMAH Non Violence Is the Supreme Virtue' Says Hinduism. Seeing God in every living being, Hinduism inculcates veneration for every thing - Cows, ants etc. Even rivers are considered to be living beings, hence venerated as also trees as vouched in the Sastras and expounded scientifically by the great Indian Scientist J.C.BOSE. This reverence is expressed in forms of 'Ahimsa' or nonviolence to animals as well as humans and as a result most pious Hindus are vegetarian. The word 'Ahimsa' is derived from the root "Han" to kill. Or 'To damage'. By adding the negative prefix it means "not to kill" There are 4 aspects of this negative connotation. 1. Vegetarianism 2. Harmlessnes 3. Pacifism and 4. Passive resistance On the positive aspect it means compassion (i.e.) Actual assistance to all living creatures who are in need. Karuna (Intelligent charity) Maitri (Active good deed) and Daya (Tender sympathy) are its other positive manifestations. A doubt can arise whether the principle of 'Ahimsa' so loudly proclaimed is not inconsistent with the sacrifice of goats, horses etc. referred to in the Vedas. No doubt, the Vedas did prescribe some animal sacrifices; it even spoke of 'Purushamedha' a human sacrifice. But, the concept should be viewed in the context in which they were so prescribed. The Upanishads which came subsequently to analyze and explain the Vedic texts lost no time in clarifying that these sacrifices were more symbolic and allegorical than referring to the actual sacrifice of the animals or human and that the effects of these sacrifices could be secured by substitute materials like Gritha (Ghee), Masha (Black gram) and certain other leafy vegetables. Even today, it may be observed that in the shradda ceremonies, Ghee, Rice, Black gram and Thila (sesame seeds) are used, may be as substitutes for the sacrifice of living beings. This view has been upheld in subsequent recensions and sacrifice of living beings is prohibited by Dharma as also by law. A further question can be asked whether vegetarianism is not also "himsa" in the sense that it has been proved that plants have life? It has further been proved that in the case of plants, lifeline runs in the trunks in some cases, roots in others and seeds in others and that is why Sastras have prohibited cutting the plants at their respective lifelines - and this has been confirmed by modern science. Modern Science concurs with Sastras in the view that those parts where the lifelines do not run, no harm is caused when those parts are cut. These parts correspond to say hairs on our head or the nails on our fingers or toes which when cut or clipped do not entail any pain. The cow is an expression of brotherhood between man and beast, of man's 'identity with all that lives'. The cow is referred to as "Gomatha" and is treated with the same respect as one would treat one's own mother. Modern scholars are convinced that "Milk and dung from cows contribute far more to Indian society than what butchering the scrawny beasts would accomplish" Mahabharata states clearly that killing of a cow was the worst of all crimes. "All that kill, eat and permit the killing of cows rot in hell for as many years as there are hairs on the body of the cow so slain" The 'Panchagavya' or the five products from the cow Viz., milk, curd, ghee, dung and urine are deemed the most sacred amalgam that can purify any defilement. In fact, 'Ahimsa' is called the first of flowers:'Ahimsa Prathamam Pushpam' - Hinduism holds everything is but a spark of the same divinity and therefore no harm should be done to anything that is living. Lord Krishna declares "The wise see alike in regard to one well endowed with learning and humility, a Brahmana, a cow, an elephant, a dog and a dog - eater (because they know that though different outwardly in form, they have similar souls" Like Truth, 'Ahimsa' cannot be an 'absolute' one. Supposing somebody tries to rape a woman. Hinduism does not say that she should not offer any resistance. Even Mahatma Gandhi; the greatest protagonist of Nonviolence advised the woman to use all in her power and command not only to resist but go to the extent of killing the criminal, if she finds it necessary. He goes on to say that such an act on her part will not constitute violence, since it is done in pure self defense of her honor" ================================================================== I conclude with the request that any futher discussion on the subject may please be through private mail. Mails may be addressed to "Sri_ranga_Sri" and NOT to the "" address. Thanks. 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