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SrIman! SrI Ranga Sriyam anubadravam anudhinam samvardhaya/

SrIman! SrI Ranga Sriyam anubadravam anudhinam samvardhaya//

KAvEri VardhathAm kAlE, kAlE varshathu vAsava:/

SrI RanganAthO jayathu SrI Ranga SrIs cha VardhathAm//

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SRI RANGA SRI VOL. 2 / 07 DATED 24th June 2001

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Dear Bhagavatas:

In this Issue:

1. DESIKAMRUTHAM:

"SRI VEDANTA DESIKA-

THE GREAT PERSONAGE AND THE GREAT POET - A SKETCH"

(Anbil Ramaswamy)

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2. SRIBHASYAMRUTHAM:

A BRIEF SUMMARY OF ADHIKARANAMS 69 to 74 OF ADHYAYAM 3 (PAADAM 1) OF

SRI BHASHYAM

(Anbil Ramaswamy)

Based on "Sukha Bodhini" by Sri Purisai Nadadur Krishnamachariar

Swami, Editor & publisher, "Nrisimhapriya", "Sri Bhashya Saaram" by

Sri T.S. Rajagopalan Swami (and published by Azhwargal Amudha

Nilayam), "Brahma Vidya" by Sri S. Jagannarayanan Swami, Retd.

Secretary to Govt. of India and "Sri Bhashya Saaraswaathinee" by

Vaikuntavasi Vidwan Tirupputkuzhi Narasimha Tatachariar Swami of Sri

Hayagriva Vidya Peetam, Chennai.

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3. GITAMRUTHAM: SUMMARY OF ADHYAYAM 2 (SANKHYA YOGAM) OF BHAGAVAD

GITA Summarized in English

(Anbil Ramaswamy)

As per Alavandar's and Swami Desika's "Gitaartha Sangraham"

from the "Gita Saaram" of Vaikuntavasi U. Ve. Vidwan Saarasaarjna

Tirukkallam Narasimha Raghava Chariar Swami.

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4. "LEARN OUR TRADITION THE EASY WAY"- Sampradaya lessons for kids

for GRADE 2 – LESSON 5: "THE SUPREME GOD" written in Tamil by Desika

Bhakta Ratnam, U. Ve. Seva Srinivasa Raghavachariar Swami under

his "Jayamangala Paada Thittam" (Translated in English by Sri

M.K.Srinivasan Swami of Vedanta Desika Research Center)

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"Sri Ranga Sri"

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1.DESIKAMRUTHAM

"SRI VEDANTA DESIKA-

THE GREAT PERSONAGE AND THE GREAT POET - A SKETCH"

(Anbil Ramaswamy)

Sri Vedanta Desika is a great personality. He was great in thought,

word and deed. His accomplishments are so varied, so many-sided and

so glamorous that even today, his very name is alluring and

inspiring. Above all, he lived his life in God and so he lives

eternally in greatness.

 

His writings cover all fields of knowledge and they are so prodigious

and so prolific both in content and style. His variegated knowledge –

I art, science, religion, philosophy and even in handicrafts is so

amazing that even the elite are compelled to admit that he is a rare

combination of all the highest powers bestowed on man. Usually, God

grants these merits, sporadically with restrictions and reservations.

But, Sri Vedanta Desika was an exception and he had God's grace in

abundance and his life was so richly blessed and great in many ways

and in many respects.

 

1. Was there anyone great, who was free from egoism and

attachments, who was free from pride and prejudice and who was free

from the pursuit of power, pelf, name and fame?

Yes. There was one. It was Sri Vedanta Desika.

 

2. Was there anyone great, who considered a clod of earth and a

bar of gold as equal in value?

Yes. There was one. It was Sri Vedanta Desika.

 

3. Was there anyone great, who considered friend and foe alike,

anyone who treated fame and indignity alike?

Yes. There was one. It was Sri Vedanta Desika.

 

4. Was there anyone great, who was pure and spotless in

character, anyone who did not care to earn or to save or to own,

anyone who was above pain and pleasure?

Yes. There was one. It was Sri Vedanta Desika.

 

5. Was there anyone great, who lived with one-pointed devotion

to God, anyone who lived for enlightening and uplifting others,

anyone who tried to bridge the gap between earth and heaven, by

erecting a staircase with easy steps to climb and to reach the

Kingdom of God?

Yes. There was one. It was Sri Vedanta Desika.

 

Such was his greatness and we will do well to follow his footsteps

and study his teachings and sublimate our lives. He has set the

standards for us all in "plain living and high thinking" for all

times.

 

Sri Vedanta Desika's genius covered all fields of human endeavors. He

adorned and enriched whatever he touched and he touched only whatever

was worthwhile and noble.

 

 

· He could write with equal felicity either in prose or in

poetry;

· He can be concise and he can be dilatory;

· He can write in simple style and also in ornate style;

· He can use simple words and he can use compound words;

· He can use both simple words and compound words together, in

perfect unity and perfect style. (Vide Raghuveera Gadyam);

· He was well versed in Sanskrit and equally well versed in

Tamil and more brilliantly well versed in the combination of Tamil

and Sanskrit (Manipravalam).

 

· In debate, he was unconquerable. When there was even a

slightest adverse criticism of Visishtadvaita philosophy and if there

was any illogical view or misrepresentation of our scriptures, Sri

Vedanta Desika became as powerful as a lion and his critics and

rivals would be forced to save themselves, by retracing their steps,

submitting meekly and unquestionably to the overwhelmingly balanced,

truthful and logical arguments of Swami Desika's master mind.

 

· As a poet, Sri Vedanta Desika was supreme beyond any

comparison. His poetry pulsates with stately and majestic cadence and

is filled with divine aroma. Hence, Sri Vedanta Desika's poetry

excels that of Kalidasa, the renowned poet of our country. It excels

also that of immortal poets of other countries. In imaginative skill,

artistic dexterity, and emotional vivacity and in poetic excellence

in all its varieties, Sri Vedanta Desika's poetry is unsurpassed. His

poetry is the outcome of the dynamic call of Vedanta, to express his

Bhakti, which is the crown of all Jnana. His uniqueness as a poet

consists in the rare combination of "Kavita Samartya", logical

dexterity and spiritual enlightenment. In his poetry, the principle

of the doctrines of Visishtadvaita is everywhere diffused.

 

· Sri Vedanta Desika never for a moment forgot the teachings of

his great predecessor, Sri Ramanuja and followed his footsteps with

dogged and unswerving determination on the great path laid and

trodden by the great Paramacharya. When Sri Ramanuja's teachings

began to wane 130 years after his demise and when it was losing its

grip on the minds of the people, Sri Vedanta Desika appeared on the

scene to reinforce Sri Ramanuja's teachings by advocacy and by

writing proper commentaries and thereby enriched the great works of

Vaishnavite literature in an abundant measure and in a remarkable

manner.

 

· Every line of Sri Vedanta Desika's poetry shines with a

poetic beauty. But, his "Yadavabhyudayam" has a charm of its own. It

is captivating from beginning to end and it is sublime in all its

details. In the very beginning of this great work, he himself defines

what a poem should be and no poet, except Sri Vedanta Desika, has set

such high standards and such noble objectives.

(i) It is necessary, he says, that in a poem, words must flow

with ease;

(ii) The style must be suitable to the meaning;

(iii) It must be filled with nine "rasas" (sentiments) and

13 "Bhavas" to develop and strengthen the above sentiments;

(iv) It must be suggestive;

(v) It must have an exoteric and esoteric meaning;

(vi) It must be resonant with "Dwani";

(vii) It must have figures of speech and it must have a proper

structure;

(viii) Above all this, it must be capable of delighting the whole

mankind and its creator;

(ix) To crown it all, Swami says hat to be a good poet, one must

have the blessings of Sarasvathi, and the Goddess of learning and

without her grace, and nobody can become or entitled to be called a

poet. This Goddess has undoubtedly blessed Sri Vedanta Desika and his

poetry, therefore, transforms all human emotions into divine

ecstasies and in consequence his poems shine as masterpieces of

poetic art.

(x) Every Canto of "Yadavabhyudayam" is pregnant with poetic

beauty and it is difficult to pick and choose. A honey-product is

honey in its entirety and in parts.

 

For brevity's sake two illustrations are given below:

(1) Here, Sri Vedanta Desika enjoys and expresses "Avatara

Rahasyam" of the Almighty, in words weighty and sentiments lofty. In

any drama on the stage, the different characters acting in it put on

the make-up of their cast and act accordingly, completely forgetting

their real selves. The success of an actor depends on how naturally

and how attractively he conducts himself on the stage to secure and

fix the entire attention of the audience and also making the audience

to forget all other matters not connected with the show they are

enjoying. "Oh! God! Like an actor, Thou have taken Matsya, Kurma

Varaha, Nrisimha and human Avataras and you tried to play your part

well consistent with your cast. Besides, you tried to hide your real

self, which is Omnipotent. But, in your dramatic show of your

Avatara, due to your "soulabhya", the devout and the pure hearted who

have taken their sole refuge in Thee saw and enjoyed your "Paratva"

and also its bliss and magnanimity. Thus, you were able to hide your

real personality and your divine shining qualities of your heavenly

abode, the Sri Vaikuntam". Can anything be more impressive than this

delineation of "Avatara Rahasya"?

(2) Here Swami Desika portrays Devaki's pregnancy. How vivid, how

devoted this portrayal! It requires the depth of a great poet's

imagination. It requires a devoted soul. It requires a deep

understanding of nature, beauty and truth. Then only it is possible

to paint this picture, in words, which are full of beauty. Devaki has

in her the elixir of life, which is "Krishna Rasayanam". The

prescription of this "Rasayana" is in the Vedas and properties are

also well described in that pharmacopoeia. It is sure cure for all

the ills and evils of life. This is not a new drug but an old patent

drug well tried by Siddhas and it never failed in its cure. Devaki

has taken this elixir. Without any effort on her part, this "Krishna

Rasayanam" has made her Super-human and divine. Lord Krishna is the

source of all "Ananda" He is a great "Rasika" Himself and He

dispenses all "Rasas" to others. Association with Him will remove all

the miseries of life and that will transform everything into

divinity. Sri Vedanta Desika revels in such soul-stirring sentiments

and paints a beautiful picture, in every line of this great poem,

which is his masterpiece in thought, imagery, diction and spiritual

experience.

 

No account of Visishtadvaita, religion or philosophy would be

complete at any time, without reference to the great contribution

made to it by our versatile genius, Sri Vedanta Desika. His services

to enrich our great literature, and his great, glorious name will

never be effaced from the annals of our spiritual lore.

 

May his works inspire us.

May his wisdom guide us.

May his blessings save us.

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(This is based on an Article by Dr. V. Rama Iyengar, Bangalore in Sri

Vedanta Desika 7th centenary Commemoration Volume)

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2.SRIBHASYAMRUTHAM:

A BRIEF SUMMARY OF ADHIKARANAMS

69 to 74 OF ADHYAYAM 3 (PAADAM 1) OF SRI BHASHYAM

(Anbil Ramaswamy) Based on "Sukha Bodhini"

by Sri Purisai Nadadur Krishnamachariar Swami,

Editor & publisher,"Nrisimhapriya", "Sri Bhashya Saaram" by Sri T.S.

Rajagopalan Swami (and published by Azhwargal Amudha

Nilayam), "Brahma Vidya" by Sri S. Jagannarayanan Swami, Retd.

Secretary to Govt. of India and "Sri Bhashya Saaraswaathinee" by

Vaikuntavasi Vidwan Tirupputkuzhi Narasimha Tatachariar Swami of Sri

Hayagriva Vidya Peetam, Chennai.

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ADHYAYAM 3: "UPAAYA ADHYAAYAM".

In the first two Adhyayams, Bhagavad Ramanuja firmly established

beyond doubt that Sriman Narayana is the Supreme of Supreme. In this

Adhyayam, he delineates on the pre-requisites and means (UPAYA) for

attaining Paramapadam. Hence, this Adhyayam is known as "Upaaya

Adhyaayam".

 

The first requisite is securing knowledge of the Individual Soul

(Jeevaatma) and the Universal Soul (Paramatma). It is not that the

Jeeva is not aware of this knowledge but due to its association with

the body (praakrita Sareera) this knowledge is contracted and

constricted, that it is unable to realize this knowledge. Suddenly a

moment occurs when it discerns a desire to enjoy the auspicious

qualities of the Lord (kalyana gunas); this desire triggers

automatically distaste for worldly and sensual pleasures, which it

finds to be worthless (asaara). The more it realizes the defects of

worldly life, the more it acquires disinterest to it. This is known

as "Vairaaghyam". What are these defects?

 

They consist of the pains of the fetus while in the womb of the

mother, the pain of birth, old age, disease, hunger, thirst while

alive and the trauma of death and the prospect of going through the

same routine again and again due to interminable "karma" after a

brief sojourn at heaven or hell (also depending on the good or bad

karma it had amassed.

 

The circumstances leading to this "Vairaaghyam" is detailed in the

first Paadam of this Adhyayam. Hence, this Paadam is known

as "Vairaaghya Paadam"

 

ADHIKARANAM 69: TADANTHRAPRATHIPATHYA ADHIKARANAM

A Jiva reaches the divine world (Devaloka) as a result of some

meritorious deeds (Punya). When this Punya is exhausted,

It falls "down to earth". This Adhikaranam describes this process

known as "Panchaagni Vidya". According to this the Jeeva is offered

to five kinds of fires (Pancha agni).

1st: is "Akasa" where the Jeeva acquires a subtle kind of body known

as "Soma Raja".

2nd: It is offered to the fire called "Parjanyam" (rain bearing cloud

and comes down to earth in the form of rain.

3rd: The rain is then offered to another Agni called "Earth"

where the Jeeva turns into food grain.

4th: The food grain when consumed by the male of the species is

offered as "annam" to a fourth category of Agni called "Purusha"

5th: This "Annam" turns into the seminal fluid and gets offered to

the 5th category of fire called "Sthree" i.e. female of the species.

And is delivered into the world by this "Sthree".

This is how the journey of the Jeeva is described in the "Panchaagni

Vidya" which avers that the Jeeva traverses through all these stages

with the subtle elements (Bhoothasookshma).

 

ADHIKARANAM 70: KRITHAATHYA ADHIKARANAM

This Adhikaranam deals with the following doubt. If the Jeeva that

goes to divine worlds to exhaust the fruits of its "Punyakarma"

completely, how can it return to earth when its balance of Karma is

totally exhausted?

 

Bhagavad Ramanuja explains that according to Gautama Dharma Sutra,

Apasthamba Sutra etc. the Jeeva does NOT exhaust ALL its "Punyakarma"

but still has some left. It is with this balance of Karma that it

returns to earth with a newer and better life than before.

 

ADHIKARANAM 71: ANISHTADHIKARYA ADHIKARANAM

The previous Adhikaranam talked about the effects of "Punya Karma".

This Adhikaranam explains the effects of sins "Papakarma". What

is "Papakarma"? Simply stated, it is the Non-performance of what is

prescribed in the Sastras (Kritya akarana) and perfomance what is

proscribed in the Sastras (akritya karana). Those that incur these

sins do not go to the "World of the Moon" (Chandraloka) but go to the

seven kinds of hells to experience the effects of their sins. They

also do not exhaust all their sins completely but return to earth

with some balance of sins unexpended and are born as insects, worms

etc.

 

ADHIKARANAM 72: TAD SWABHAVYAPATHI ADHIKARANAM

This Adhikaranam clears the following doubt.

If the Jeeva which goes to divine world and returns after enjoying

fruits of such Punya via moon through "Akasa" mentioned above, does

it take the "Akasa" for its body or it is "like Akasa"? Bhagavad

Ramanuja's reply is that it does not acquire "Akasa" as its body but

the Jeeva itself "looks like Akasa".

 

ADHIKARANAM 73: NA ATHICHIRAADHI ADHIKARANAM

How long does the Jeeva remain in the various agnis?

The answer is "Not for long"

 

ADHIKARANAM 74: ANYATHISHTITHA ADHIKARANAM

It is said that the Jeeva in due course reaches the stage of food

grains. The doubt is whether the food grains constitute its body. The

answer is that like in the case of "Akasa", which does not constitute

its body, food grains also are not its body. Only after the food is

consumed by the male and transmitted to the female, the Jeeva

acquires a body "as such" in the womb of the mother.

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3.GITAMRUTHAM: SUMMARY OF ADHYAYAM 2 (SANKHYA YOGAM) OF BHAGAVAD

GITA Summarized in English by Anbil Ramaswamy

As per Alavandar's and Swami Desika's "Gitaartha Sangraham"

from the "Gita Saaram" of Vaikuntavasi U. Ve. Vidwan Saarasaarjna

Tirukkallam Narasimha Raghava Chariar Swami.

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ALAVANDAR' GITARTHA SANGRAHAM IN SANSKRIT

Nityaatmaa sanga karmehaa gocharaa Saankhya Yogadhee: /

Dwitheeye Sthithadheelakshyaa prokthaa thunmohasaanthaye//6

 

"In the 2nd Chapter, Lord Krishna advises "Saankhya Yogam".

"Saankhya" means "Intellect". It is intellect that defines Jeevatma.

Hence, Jeevaatma is called "Saankhyam". "Yogam" denotes "Karma Yogam"

 

Sloka 2.12 commencing with the words "na tvevaaham jaathu naasam"

till Sloka 2.39 commencing with the words "Yeshaa thEbihithaa

Saankhye buddhir yoge thu imaam Srunu" deals with "Saankhyam" i.e.

the truth about the Jeevaatma. (Jeevaatma Tattva Jnaanam) Sloka 2.40

onwards deals with the status of intellect with reference to "karma

Yoga". This is indicated by the words "Saaankhya Yogadhee prokthaa".

 

What happens when one performs "karma Yoga" with the knowledge

of "Self" (Atma Jnaanam)? It results in what is known

as "Sthithaprgjnatvam" or "Jnaana Yoga" – an unwavering and well-

established determination.

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SWAMI DESIKA'S GITARTHA SANGRAHAM (IN TAMIL)

"uDalum azhindiDum uLLuyir onru azhiyaadhu ennaippol

viDumathu patru viDaathathu aDaitha kirisaigaLe

kaDuga unakku uyir kaaTTum ninaivu athanaal uLadhaam

viDu mayal enru visayanai thetrinun vithaganE"

 

The body gets destroyed. But, like me, the Jeevaatma that stays with

the body lives forever. One should not desire the fruits of action

(karmaphala) but should never give up action (karma). This is because

Jnaana Yoga that is responsible for realizing the truth about Self

(Atma tattva) can be secured only by practicing karma

(karmaanushTana). If you continue to perform your duty (which is what

karma yoga means), you will secure "Jnaanayoga"

COMMENT:

In this Chapter, the Lord has clearly stated that body (sareera) is

impermanent and subject to decay. Swami Desika has explained what

Alavandar indicated by the word "nityaatma" by the words "uDalam

azhindiDum".

 

For the indestructible "Soul", the Lord has mentioned "na tvevaaham

jaathu naasam" by referring to Himself as an illustration. Swami

Desika indicates this by the words "ennaippol" (like me)

 

What is to be given up? The desire for fruits- "ViDumadhu Patru".

What can never be given up? Action –"kirisaigaL"

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4."LEARN OUR TRADITION THE EASY WAY"-

Sampradaya lessons for kids for GRADE 2 – LESSON 5: "THE SUPREME GOD"

written in Tamil by Desika Bhakta Ratnam, U. Ve. Seva Srinivasa

Raghavachariar Swami under his "Jayamangala Paada Thittam"

(Translated in English by Sri M.K.Srinivasan Swami of Vedanta Desika

Research Center, Chennai)

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LESSON 5: THE SUPREME GOD

(The contents of this lesson have been briefly touched upon in the

first series of lessons. Some elaboration is attempted here. More

will be found in subsequent lessons)

 

The words "Brahman", "Parabrahman"(Supreme being), "Paramapurusha"

(The Highest being) all indicate the Creator, Sustainer and destroyer

of this Universe, SRIMAN NARAYANA. He is the "Efficient Cause" and

the "Material Cause" of the Universe, the All-Pervading Soul and

Spirit, which is immanent in all animate beings and inanimate

objects. He is the essence from which all beings are created and into

which they are eventually absorbed. The Vedas declare that the

Universe is created out of the "will" of the Supreme Being. Let us be

clear about the fact that there is ONE and ONLY ONE Brahman and NOT

two.

 

This Supreme Being has a form and attributes. This is corroborated by

several Vedic utterances, according to our preceptors. We can learn

about the Supreme Being only through the medium of Vedas,

particularly the Upanishads that constitute the end (philosophical)

portion of the Vedas. There are several Sections and Subsections of

the Vedas. Only through a study of these scriptural lore can we

satisfy our desire to know about the Supreme one (Brahma-Jignasa)

 

Sage Vyaasa codified and classified the Vedas. Besides, he composed

Brahma sutras, which are aphorisms on the Supreme Being. This

fundamental work is the basis for our awareness of the Supreme Lord.

One should carefully and meticulously study the Brahma sutras so as

to clearly comprehend the nature and form of Brahman without even a

shred of doubt. We should have a clear uncluttered mind and the

blessings of the preceptor besides a God given spiritual bent of mind

to grasp the truth. We should not indiscriminately burden our minds

with several unwanted information from several sources.

 

Swami Desika has shown us the correct path and we should tread only

that path to know the real truth. Let us follow him, as is our wont.

He has said, " I understand Narayana through the four Vedas". Given

below is a translation of an extract from "Pradhana Sathakam", a

minor Rahasya text that is a compendium of a hundred most important

aspects of our philosophy for easy reference.

14. Sriman Narayana is the highest and most important Reality (Sarva

Pradhanam).

15. He is called the highest in the worlds (Loka Pradhanam) because -

(i) Of His immensity of size (Brihatvam), His exalted nature

(Brahmatvam) and due to the possession of all auspicious qualities

(asankhyeya kalyana gunas). He is called Supreme entity (Para Brahman)

(ii) of His independence of any support, He is called (Para

Tattvam)

(iii) Of His illuminating the luminaries themselves, He is the

Supreme luster (Param Jyotis)

(iv) Of His Indwelling of all souls, He is called the Supreme Soul

(Param Atma)

(v) Of His being worshipped by all Godly and divine beings, He is

called the Supreme Lord (Para Devata)

(vi) Of His being the most important goal, He is called the

Supreme Goal (Para Gathi)

(vii) Of the unlimited extent of His drawing the aspirants of

liberation unto Himself, He is called the Supreme limit (Paraa

kaashtai).

(viii) Of Himself being the highest means of reaching Him, He is

called the Supreme Means (Paraayanam)

(ix) Of His granting all types of fruits, He is called the Supreme

penance (Param Tapas)

(x) Of His lending purity to the purificatory actions, He is

called the Supreme Purity or Purest among the Pure (Pavitraanaam

Pavitram).

(xi) Of His lending auspiciousness to auspicious qualities

themselves, He is called the Supreme auspiciousness (Manglaanaam cha

Mangalam).

(xii) By virtue of His being the undisputed natural and inherent

highest position among all qualities, actions, means and ends, He is

the Supreme Being of the Universe (Loka Pradhanam).

QUESTIONS

1. By what terms are Sriman Narayana denoted?

2. Whom should we meditate upon?

3. Does the Supreme Being have a form?

4. Through what means can we know about the Supreme entity?

5. To whom will the truth be revealed?

6. Hoe does the Lord satisfy those who want to know about

Himself?

7. Why do we call Sriman Narayana the "Supreme Lord of the

Universe"?

8. Explain why He is called-

(i) Supreme Entity

(ii) Supreme Reality

(iii) Supreme Luster

(iv) Supreme Soul

(v) Supreme God

(vi) Supreme Goal

(vii) Supreme Limit

(viii) Supreme Means

(ix) Supreme Penance

(x) Supreme Purity

(xi) Supreme auspiciousness

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Sri Anbil Ramaswamy

Greetings to you.

My sister Vasundara has recently moved back to USA and would like to be

added to our rangasri email group. Her mail address is vasundarar@

hotmail.com. My sister and Brother inlaw were living here in newyork from

1972 -1987 at queens, NY. My brother in law's name is Ramarajan. They

lived in annanagar, Madras from 1987- 2001 and now back in USA.Thay both

are devoted and sincere sishyas of Ahobila Madam Jeeyer.They would

really like to be part of our groupand I hope the email address I have

given is enough to add them to our group mailing list. if you need

further information please email me.

Thank you

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