Fw: Emperumanar Darsanam Taking care of a Srivaishnavite

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- sampath kumar

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Sunday, August 12, 2001 9:39 PM

Emperumanar Darsanam Taking care of a Srivaishnavite

My doorbell rang at 2.30 p.m. in the afternoon,a day when the Sun God was at

His peak and no sign of the Rain god anywhere near Chennai.Open the door and

an old man ,must be in the age group of 80 plus with a bag on his shoulder

enters the house and I pay my respects to him having known him.The Swamin a

true Srivaishnavite,has been performing religious ceremonies like Ammavasya

Tharpanam etc.He has the wonderful habit of visiting houses on important days

to distribute "Saradu" for ladies and Yagnopaveedam for gents .Since we have

our Aavani Avittam later in the month, he had come to our house.We offered him

butter milk and he wanted to take some rest .After sometime my wife asked him

as to why he should take all the trouble to walk in the scorching sun,climb

the first floor,when his eye sight is very bad and added to it his hearing

capacity has detriorated very badly.

The the story unfolded,a story which according to me should be very common among

the Srivaishnavites.

In short it is like this.He has sons well settled who do not like him to be in

this "profession".Over a period they do not take care for him and he has to

fend for himself and finds immense satisfaction in doing this .What he said

little later was startling".Even if I sit at home as they desire, I am sure

they would still not care for me.I have become a liability and of no use to

them at this old age ".During our recent visit to States I was discussing with

NRI s on various issues and one issue on which every one was concerned but at

the same time hoplessly helpless was regarding OLD AGE of their near and dear

ones.They have realised the tons of money they earn can not solve the the

problems associated with old age.Family ties are breaking,materialistic world

engulfing them and on top of it the ADJUSTMENT problem.All these at the end

of the day make them feel what is the purpose in living in this world.Compare

this NRIS with the old man at Chennai.The problem remains the same except that

one can be called POOR Rich old man and the other POOR old man.

Every one must be wondering what has this got to do with Emperumanar

Darsanam.Has OUR GREAT ACHARYA RAMANUJA SAID ANYTHING TO TAKE CARE OF A

SRIVAISHNAVITE IN DISTRESS AND WHO IS IN NEED OF HELP.

Let me conclude for the time being on this.

 

Jaya Sriman Narayana

Sri Mudaliyandan Swami shishya sampath

 

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Respected Swamin,

The concluding line of my mail has not brought out what exactly I wanted to

communicate.I am sorry my communication was bad.I agree instead of raising a

question I could have positvely stated what Emperumanar has said .In the

next mail also I have raised the same question and pl bear with me.

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<Parthasarathy.Sudarsan

<gmpial

Tuesday, August 14, 2001 11:56 AM

RE: Fw: Emperumanar Darsanam Taking care of a

Srivaishnavite

 

 

> Sri Raamajayam

>

> SrimathE GOpAla DEsika MahA DEsikAya Namaha

>

> Dear Sri.Sampath Kumar,

> AdiyEn realize the importance of the

problem you are addressing, and it is indeed something we need to act upon.

Definitely following the footsteps of our Acharya, could resolve such

problems. While Acharya RAmanuja has no direct messages, such as "if you

see a poor old man, do this", "if you catch a thief, advise him like this"

etc, he has bequeathed a greater treasure to us, in his works which should

provide us the clarity of mind to act correctly on situations like what you

have outlined.

>

> Following EmpErumaanar(or Udaiyavar or Sri RAmanujar) means we do our

level best to understand his teachings(including important works like

VEdartha Sangraha, Sri Bhashya....) at the divine feet of Sri Vaishnava

Acharyas. This bestows us with a clarity of mind, that indeed the Vedas

impart the way of life, and shows us the Tattva, Hitha, Purushaartha. With

this knowledge, we would have a clarity of mind, and display great Atma

Gunaas, and act wisely on every situations(both at work and home).

>

> Also we should get away from the mindset of asking " Has Sri RAmanuja said

anything on this topic", "has Swamy Desikan condemned eating of bread", "Do

Vedas say moon is made of Cheese" etc, as such questions lead us nowhere,

and such thoughts(Vyakshapam) are clearly answered if we follow the

teachings of a Sri Vaishnava Acharya. While the rationale of questioning

has to be maintained, it should be done in a structured manner with

patience.

>

> AdiyEn used to ask questions like these before, but as time went on,

simply following the footsteps of a Sri Vaishnava Acharya, AdiyEn have

better clarity of mind.

>

> AdiyEn Sri RAmanuja DAsan,

>

> Sudarsana Dasosmi

>

>

>

> sampath kumar [gmpial]

> Monday, August 13, 2001 12:10 AM

>

> Fw: Emperumanar Darsanam Taking care of a

Srivaishnavite

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>

> -

> sampath <gmpial kumar

> bhakti-list <bhakti-list >

> Sunday, August 12, 2001 9:39 PM

> Emperumanar Darsanam Taking care of a Srivaishnavite

>

> My doorbell rang at 2.30 p.m. in the afternoon,a day when the Sun God was

at His peak and no sign of the Rain god anywhere near Chennai.Open the door

and an old man ,must be in the age group of 80 plus with a bag on his

shoulder enters the house and I pay my respects to him having known him.The

Swamin a true Srivaishnavite,has been performing religious ceremonies like

Ammavasya Tharpanam etc.He has the wonderful habit of visiting houses on

important days to distribute "Saradu" for ladies and Yagnopaveedam for

gents .Since we have our Aavani Avittam later in the month, he had come to

our house.We offered him butter milk and he wanted to take some rest .After

sometime my wife asked him as to why he should take all the trouble to

walk in the scorching sun,climb the first floor,when his eye sight is very

bad and added to it his hearing capacity has detriorated very badly.

> The the story unfolded,a story which according to me should be very common

among the Srivaishnavites.

> In short it is like this.He has sons well settled who do not like him to

be in this "profession".Over a period they do not take care for him and he

has to fend for himself and finds immense satisfaction in doing this .What

he said little later was startling".Even if I sit at home as they desire, I

am sure they would still not care for me.I have become a liability and of

no use to them at this old age ".During our recent visit to States I was

discussing with NRI s on various issues and one issue on which every one was

concerned but at the same time hoplessly helpless was regarding OLD AGE of

their near and dear ones.They have realised the tons of money they earn can

not solve the the problems associated with old age.Family ties are

breaking,materialistic world engulfing them and on top of it the ADJUSTMENT

problem.All these at the end of the day make them feel what is the purpose

in living in this world.Compare this NRIS with the old man at Chennai.The

problem remain!

> s the same except that one can be called POOR Rich old man and the

other POOR old man.

> Every one must be wondering what has this got to do with Emperumanar

Darsanam.Has OUR GREAT ACHARYA RAMANUJA SAID ANYTHING TO TAKE CARE OF A

SRIVAISHNAVITE IN DISTRESS AND WHO IS IN NEED OF HELP.

> Let me conclude for the time being on this.

>

> Jaya Sriman Narayana

> Sri Mudaliyandan Swami shishya sampath

>

>

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Hello Dear Mr.Sampath Kumar,

I do not generally participate in the conversations. But do read a good

number of emails.

 

Reading your email, I find it amazing how people can complicate life.

 

I very much agree and respect and abide by all the teachings of all the

Alwars and great teachers.

 

But, why do we have to refer to what they have said about some of these

trivial things? Why do we need to search and research through what Sri

Ramanuja or Sri Shankara has said about helping an aged woman / man?

Is it not straight forward and simple to follow the basics of life:

- Help others who are in need

- Speak truth when it makes sense and when you are not harming somebody else

- Do not steal

 

....

 

why make it such a convoluted questioning?

Does it matter what Sri Emperumanar has said about helping some other

SriVishnava? I can take a bet that Sri Emperumanar or Sri Ramanuja would

never have said that one should help only Sri Vaishnavas. That would bring

them down to any other common man's thinking levels. They were very noble

and the most broad minded. I don't think they would ever ask their followers

to help ONLY SRIVAISHNAVAs.

 

Thanks

Shreenath

 

 

 

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Not in the clamour of the crowded streets,

Not in the shouts and plaudits of the throng,

But, in ourselves, are triumph and defeat.

-Henry Wadsworth Longfellow

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- sampath kumar

 

Wednesday, August 15, 2001 8:20 PM

Re: Fw: Emperumanar Darsanam Taking care of a Srivaishnavite

Jaya Sriman Narayana,

This is in reponse to a mail from M/sAarathy Char

Let me thank you

1.Can I take it my mail. provoked you to write which otherwise you would have not done.

2.I am extremly sorry if the mail gave the impression of narrow minded

,objectionable meaning.

3.I am in full agreement with what ever you have said.

4I had clarified in my reply to sh Sudharshan that my mail did not bring out

what I had in my mind,which was also circulated..

5.I was trying to narrate few live instances where Srivaishnavites are

pathetically placed.I have few more to send when I received your mail.

6.Every religion talks what you should do to your own followers.It does not mean

it is exclusive nor at the cost of others.

7My experience,based on hard facts prove that all the other religions have

addressed and are trying to find a solution to various social problems

afflicting their community.

8When I feel sad and say that Srivaishnavites should also do more and more of

community service-,pl do not construe that I am selfish nor I am questioning.

the Acharyas.

9I am proud to be a Srivaishnavite and I am equally proud of my Jagathacharian

Emperumanar.

10.Emperumanars life is full of compassion ,human touch and today the" Powers "-

claim that he excelled and surpassed all in in his social reforms.

11.My mails were not to question Emperumanar but slowly develop to say let us

spare few minutes and few paise to the needy.

12Learned Srivaishnavites are treasure and they are to be protected at all cost .

13Like charity begins at home ,I will always plead for helping the fellow

Srivaishnavites .If people have the time and money pl do it for all..

Jaya Sriman Narayana

Sri Mudaliyandan Shishya sampath

 

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