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Dear Baagavadhathomas,

I have a doubt on the position of Thiruvadi(Anjaneyar) in our sampradayam.

I have seen in most of the old (Sri Vaishnavite) temples the Anjaneyar sannadhi

is placed out side the temple only. Eg. Thiruvallikeni, Thiruneermalai,

Madhuranthakam, (even Namakkal where these days Anjaneyar is more popular than

Nrusimar or Ranganathar of that kshetram). While naming children we name them

after alwars, acharyas, perumal, Ilaya perumal but only maadhwas have the

practise of naming thier children after Anjaneyar(hanumantha rao etc.,)

Will the erudite scholars of the list please enlighten me about the significance

of Anjaneyar in our Sri Sampradaya.

Why are there no significant Ramar temples in the 108 divya desams(particularly

in south India) In popular divya desams, ramar Sannidhis only seems like a

later addition, is this only my impertinant thought or is there any

significance behind this.

I will be greatful if my confusion is cleared by you.

Adiyen

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Anantha pranAmam to bhAgavathAs.

1. Temples for us symboise Sri vaikuntha. Hence the

sannidhis are of those who adorn the vaikuntha ie.,

nithya and muktha besides the Lord Himelf. At the

conclusion of rAmAvatAra, perumal offered to take

everyone to srivaikuntha. But hanumAn refused, saying

that he will immerse himself in rAmadhyana here in the

land where rAma lived. Therefore he is living on ths

earth as chiranjeevi and is present in every spot

where rAma nAma is uttered (yatra yatra raghunAtha

kIrthanam thatra thatra krithamasthakAnjalim....).

This is the reason why we do not have hanumAn sannidhi

inside the main temple ie., sri vaikuntha.

2. We do have popular names like Sundaram, rAmapriya

etc which are also names of hanumAn. Yes, I have not

come across any direct names like hanumantha IyengAr

or AnjanEyAchAry in my life. Srhi VAsu venkat swamin,

along with you, I also seek views from others on this

matter.

adiyEn, dAsAnudAsan.

Suderson

 

--- Vasu Venkat <garudalwar wrote:

> Dear Baagavadhathomas,

> I have a doubt on the position of

> Thiruvadi(Anjaneyar) in our sampradayam.

> I have seen in most of the old (Sri Vaishnavite)

> temples the Anjaneyar sannadhi is placed out side

> the temple only. Eg. Thiruvallikeni, Thiruneermalai,

> Madhuranthakam, (even Namakkal where these days

> Anjaneyar is more popular than Nrusimar or

> Ranganathar of that kshetram). While naming children

> we name them after alwars, acharyas, perumal, Ilaya

> perumal but only maadhwas have the practise of

> naming thier children after Anjaneyar(hanumantha rao

> etc.,)

> Will the erudite scholars of the list please

> enlighten me about the significance of Anjaneyar in

> our Sri Sampradaya.

> Why are there no significant Ramar temples in the

> 108 divya desams(particularly in south India) In

> popular divya desams, ramar Sannidhis only seems

> like a later addition, is this only my impertinant

> thought or is there any significance behind this.

> I will be greatful if my confusion is cleared by

> you.

> Adiyen

>

 

 

 

 

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Sri Anantha Padmanabha swamin!!

Hari Om!!!

The name "Hanumantha Rao Hanumantha GuptaSitaram

Kesari" etc are poular in andhra ,Up & Bihar. Even

among Sikhs thereare Hanumat Singhs!!

But I wonder why Sri anjaneyas name is not popular

among Sri Vaishnavites in Tamil Nadu

PNKannan

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Sri RAmajayam

 

SrimathE GopAla DEsika MahA DEsikAya Namaha

 

Dear Bhagavathaas,

It is quite true that Sri Vaishnavites do not have names like

Hanumanthachari or AnjanEya Iyengar.

 

HanumAn is a great RAma Bhaktha and has a major role to play in Srimad

RAmayanam. So HanumAn is worshipped as "Chinna Thiruvadi" in temples, just

like "Periya Thiruvadi"(Garudhazvaar) where both do not have seperate Sannidhis,

but more as rendering service to the lord.

 

As for names, normally we tend to hold the names of the Divya Dhampathis (or)

the names of Nitya Suris who not only engage themself in eternal Kaimkaryam to

the Lord, but hold the greatest desire to be with the Lord(which could be seen

in Azhvaar's paasuram of having joy in serving the lord, and in great pain and

anguish in his absence).

 

Sri AnjanEya was absorbed in the Divya Kalyaana Gunas of Sri Rama, and his Divya

Anubhavam, that he did not even aspire MOksham, where he could have enjoyed the

Lord in any way he chooses to, and chose to stay on Earth.

 

Sri Vaishnavas charter their life with Vaidhika Dharma, which embellishes the

PradAna Tattvam of SaranAgathi or Prapatthi, with the desire to be Jeeva Mukthas

to perform eternal Kaimkaryam to the Lord(in Nitya Viboothi), free of

afflictions we face in Leela Viboothi. Accordingly they would take on names of

Para Vaasudevan, Divya Mahishis and Nityasooris and not names restricted to

Leela Viboothis.

 

So names are chosen with this realization. It is common knowledge that if we

know someone very unpopular, we refrain from giving such a name to our near and

dear for fear of reminding ourself of that personality(since in Samsaara, we

often forget that calling the name, should make us think of the Divya

Dhampthis). In a similar way Sri Vaishnavites choose names of the Supreme and

those serving the Supreme with undivided attention eternally.

 

AdiyEn Sri RAmanuja DAsan,

 

Sudarsana Dasosmi

 

 

 

 

Puzhankarai Narayanan Kannan [pnkannan_cm]

Tuesday, August 21, 2001 9:59 AM

 

Re: Thiruvadi

 

 

Sri Anantha Padmanabha swamin!!

Hari Om!!!

The name "Hanumantha Rao Hanumantha GuptaSitaram

Kesari" etc are poular in andhra ,Up & Bihar. Even

among Sikhs thereare Hanumat Singhs!!

But I wonder why Sri anjaneyas name is not popular

among Sri Vaishnavites in Tamil Nadu

PNKannan

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Namaskarams to all bhAgavatAs.

 

My name is Srikanth and I am very curious about one thing which

I would like to ask regarding this topic...

 

As we all know, there is no topic in philosophy or bhakti on which

our AchArya sArvabhouman Swami Desikan has not written...

 

But I have not heard about any stotram he has written about

Anjaneyar...He has written stotrams in praise of GarudAzhwAr,

SudarSanAzhwAr and others...

 

I am just curious as to why this might be the case...

 

Or am I wrong?

 

Please pardon me for any errors/apacArams.

 

adiyen RAmAnuja dAsan,

Srikanth

-

suderson

;

Cc:

Monday, August 20, 2001 11:50 AM

Re: Thiruvadi

Anantha pranAmam to bhAgavathAs.1. Temples for us symboise Sri vaikuntha. Hence

thesannidhis are of those who adorn the vaikuntha ie.,nithya and muktha besides

the Lord Himelf. At theconclusion of rAmAvatAra, perumal offered to takeeveryone

to srivaikuntha. But hanumAn refused, sayingthat he will immerse himself in

rAmadhyana here in theland where rAma lived. Therefore he is living on thsearth

as chiranjeevi and is present in every spotwhere rAma nAma is uttered (yatra

yatra raghunAthakIrthanam thatra thatra krithamasthakAnjalim....).This is the

reason why we do not have hanumAn sannidhiinside the main temple ie., sri

vaikuntha.2. We do have popular names like Sundaram, rAmapriyaetc which are

also names of hanumAn. Yes, I have notcome across any direct names like

hanumantha IyengAror AnjanEyAchAry in my life. Srhi VAsu venkat swamin,along

with you, I also seek views from others on thismatter.adiyEn,

dAsAnudAsan.Suderson--- Vasu Venkat wrote:> Dear Baagavadhathomas,> I have a

doubt on the position of> Thiruvadi(Anjaneyar) in our sampradayam.> I have seen

in most of the old (Sri Vaishnavite)> temples the Anjaneyar sannadhi  is placed

out side> the temple only. Eg. Thiruvallikeni, Thiruneermalai,> Madhuranthakam,

(even Namakkal where these days> Anjaneyar is more popular than Nrusimar or>

Ranganathar of that kshetram). While naming children> we name them after

alwars, acharyas, perumal, Ilaya> perumal but only maadhwas have the practise

of> naming thier children after Anjaneyar(hanumantha rao> etc.,)> Will the

erudite scholars of the list please> enlighten me about the significance of

Anjaneyar in> our Sri Sampradaya.> Why are there no significant Ramar temples

in the> 108 divya desams(particularly in south India) In> popular divya desams,

ramar Sannidhis only seems> like a later addition, is this only my impertinant>

thought or is there any significance behind this. > I will be greatful if my

confusion is cleared by> you.> Adiyen >

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