Guest guest Posted November 6, 2001 Report Share Posted November 6, 2001 tiruvengadam, "Sudarshan M.K." <sampathkumar_2000> wrote: tiruvengadam, sadagopan iyengar <sadagopaniyengar> wrote: > Moksham for Dhadhibhandan's Clay Pot > Dhadhibhandan and his clay pot > > dear bhgavatas, but one > has to only refer to the history of mahatmas like jada > bharata, to conclude that the ultimate janma of gnAnis > need not even be human. It is only thus that one > could explain the pasuram, "narpAl ayOttiyil vAzhum > charAcharam mutravum narpAlukku uytthanan" (even the > blades of grass in Ayodhya were given moksha by Sri > Rama). if this were not agreed to, then the elaborate > moksha mArgAs prescribed by various Upanishads, Sri > Geeta, and poorvAchArya anushttAnam,etc. would become > irrelevant and uncalled for. > -dasan,sadagopan. *********************** Dear SrimAn Sadgopan Iyengar, 'devarir' is absolutely right and you have quoted incontrovertible scripture to support you. There is nothing more adiyane can or needs to add to what 'devarir' has commented. To be honest, adiyane was posing questions to you in a rather playful mood only, so please forgive me. Sometimes it is healthy to approach 'vedAntam' and 'siddhAntam' in a light-hearted way also. Religion is not always so grim and severe that we should not indulge a bit, now and then, in its lighter side! Adiyane must confess when I first heard the "dadhipAndan" story from the late U.Ve. Mukkur Lakshminarasimhachari I too drew the wrong lessons from it. I also fell into the trap of concluding from it that like the 'claypot', man could certainly hope to receive 'mOksha' gratuitously. I too began to entertain doubts with regard to the need to adopt proper 'upAyam' like "bhakti-mArgam" and "prappatti" in the pursuit of God. Mukkur Swamy used to say, "If this is the lesson one learns from the DadhipAndan story then the fault lies not with the story itself but in our 'kONa-buddhi' (flawed minds) which is unable to infer right conclusions from right premises. What is the true message of the story, then? It is not about an inanimate object like a claypot being the gratuitous recipient of spiritual grace ("nirhetuka-kripa"). Far more wondrous than that fact (if it is fact at all!) is the story's subtle implication that all creation on earth, whether animate or inanimate, insensient or intelligent, animal or human, be it a worm or a yogi --- all things on earth are capable of aspiring for the highest experience of life called "mOksha". This is because all things on earth, without exception, are God's creations... every blade of grass, every mortal being and every thing that moves and moves not... everything is His inalienable property. Everything on earth thus actually aspires to be eventually restored to its rightful owner. Or rather, to a higher state of being called 'mOksha". Not all things and beings may have actually realized 'mOksha' but there is no denying that all are capable of aspiring for it. We may not all yet be "mOkshAdhikAri-s", but we are all, in varying degrees perhaps, but surely "mumukshu-s". Everything in nature constantly aspires to ascend --- this is a fundamental law of nature... God recognizes this and which is why everything in this world is hence fully worthy of His affection. Should not all objects of God's affection thus command our respect too? Even a 'claypot' such as DadhipAndan's? Should not all this world, the Almighty's very own, therefore be the object of our loving veneration?". Mukkur Swamy used to further add, "After listening to DadhipAndan's story we should not ask ourselves "How can I too, like the claypot, secure God's Grace effortlessly?". Instead, we should ask "If God in His compassion is willing to hear even the muted pleas of a lifeless claypot longing for 'mOksha' and reward it accordingly, why doesn't this proud and steely heart beating within my breast, with its vast power of eloquence, still not cry out to Him in desperate prayer and seize the same opportunity"? It was only after I'd heard Mukkur Swamy's explanation did the true significance of DadhipANdan story sink into me. Thanks and regards, dAsan, Sudarshan --- End forwarded message --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2001 Report Share Posted November 7, 2001 tiruvengadam, "Sudarshan M.K." <sampathkumar_2000> wrote: > Mukkur Swamy used to further add, "After listening to DadhipAndan's > story we should not ask ourselves "How can I too, like the claypot, > secure God's Grace effortlessly?". Instead, we should ask "If God in > His compassion is willing to hear even the muted pleas of a lifeless > claypot longing for 'mOksha' and reward it accordingly, why doesn't > this proud and steely heart beating within my breast, with its > vast power of eloquence, still not cry out to Him in desperate > prayer and seize the same opportunity"? > > It was only after I'd heard Mukkur Swamy's explanation did the true > significance of DadhipANdan story sink into me. > dAsan, > Sudarshan Dear friends, Adiyane forgot to mention one other fact in the above posting of mine. While explaining the point above, and more especially to underscore the fact of "this proud and steely heart beating within my breast", Sri.Mukkur Swamy used to remind us of the oft-quoted and most poignant 'pAsuram' from Tondar-adi-podi's "tirumAlai": "virumbi ninru aettha maatane, vidhi illane, madhi onru illai; irumbu-pOl valiya nenjam irai irai urugam vannam karumbu amar sOlai suzhntha aranga mA koyil konda karumbinai kandu konda, en kaNNiNai kaLLikumArE" ! ("tirumAlai" -Verse 17) (Translation): "Many years have passed, my head not once did bend in prayer, My mind refused to turn Godward; these hands never served Him... This heart of mine was but hard, cold, unbending silent steel -- But then my eyes feasted upon the temple of Arangam Amidst those sweet cane-groves swarming with bees -- My eyes rejoiced! My spirit leapt And my heart melted... bit by bit"! Mukkur Swamy used to explain the delightful phrase "irumbu-pOl valiya nenjam irai irai urugam vannam" very movingly indeed, saying that even DadhipAndan's claypot obviously had more "heart" to earn the Grace of God than the "steely-hard hearts" of human-beings who, alas, have no yearning whatsoever for the 'parama-gatih' which is the Feet of our Lord at Arangam! Thanks to Sri.Mukkur Swamy, to this very day, whenever adiyane reads this particular verse from the 'tirumAlai', I am able to recollect the the claypot of the DadhipAndan story and partake in the delight of the AzhwAr's own savour ("azhwAr kanda ruchi")! Thanks and regards, dAsan, Sudarshan --- End forwarded message --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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