Guest guest Posted November 25, 2001 Report Share Posted November 25, 2001 tiruvengadam, "Sudarshan M.K." <sampathkumar_2000> wrote: Dear friends, There are many lessons one can draw from the opening 'anuvAkam' of the "brughuvalli" of the Taittiriya Upanishad. One of them is that it very, important to regularly study our religious or scriptural literature. In fact such study should become a lifetime habit. The young Brghu goes to his father Sage Varuna and asks him "adhIhi bhagavO brahmEti" --- "Sir, please teach me all I need to know about Brahman". Varuna replies, "tad vijignyAsasva, tad brahmEthi" - "Begin intense study, so that you may succeed in knowing That Brahman". And the young Brughu then goes away to perform the 'tapas' of intense study - "sa tapO tapyata, sa tapastaptvA!". Why is it important to devote ourselves to such intense study as Brghu undertook? The answer is quite simple and practical. We need to regularly study the literature of our scriptures for the same reason why in our professional careers we regularly read literature related to our respective field of work or specialization. The doctor or surgeon who passes his MD or FRCS does not stop studying; the lawyer or attorney-at-law never stops reading legal journals, digests and manuals. The same is the case with architects, accountants, engineers, IT-specialists or fashion designers. No matter how old or rich in experience a professional is, he knows that he is only as good as the knowledge he possesses is thorough and up-to-date. And to ensure that he is up-to-date, he will go to any length, undergo any pain and perform any kind of 'tapas' necessary, isn't it? A professional who is not constantly on what is called the "cutting-edge" or "leading-edge" of his field of work or specialization gets "left behind" rapidly. And in these modern days of 'knowledge-workers', as all professionals know, the world shows no respect whatsoever for an out-of-date professional. Which is why "continuing professional education" has become so important for all of us. Sooner or later, we all realize that either we continually study or we perish. What is true of our professional careers, unfortunately, holds good for our spiritual careers too. Our professional careers span, say, only 40 or 50 years … at best, we can all hope to sustain our worldly careers only as long as our lifetimes. But our spiritual careers extend well and far beyond our bodily lifetime on earth. Every faith in this world, be it Vedic, Christian or Buddhist, tells us that each of us has a soul - a 'jeevAtma' - and this soul is eternal. So as 'jeevAtmAs' all of us have eternal career spans to look forward to. There is a second and greater career awaiting us after we have all spent our time upon earth. Now, being the first-class professionals we all like to believe we are, should we not therefore begin preparing a career plan for ourselves in the after-world? Should we not be asking ourselves questions such as the following: (1) "What will my second career in the spiritual realm be after I have left these worldly shores?". (2) "What will be expected of me in that second career of mine? What sort of duties and responsibilities will I be carrying out then? What demands will be made upon this soul of mine in that career-role?". (3) "In order to succeed in that eternal career, what kinds and varieties of knowledge should be acquired by my spirit? How should I qualify myself for that great second career which awaits me? What knowledge or 'atma-gnyAnam' should I be gaining?" (4) "And how, where and from whom or from which institute should I gather that sort of knowledge?". There is one answer only for all such questions and it is this: Great Religious Literature. The greatest religious literature that we as Indians have are the priceless Vedas handed down to us by our ancient 'rshi-s' and which have in fact one primary purpose only: viz. to prepare us for our spiritual careers in the after world. And in doing so they serve the very same purpose as any of the literature we all avidly seek in our professional life viz. "continuous education" for a better and ever more prosperous future career. The study of the Vedas, or any scriptural literature for that matter, involves, no doubt, discipline and hard work. It is a kind of 'tapas'. (Attending 'vedadhyAyana' classes, for example, thrice a week at Sri.IVK Chary's house here in Kuwait, is perhaps a sort of 'tapas'too on our part).If we are successful in our professional careers it is because of the "tapas" we undertook voluntarily, isn't it? We must remember how hard we toiled for the expertise we eventually gained in our field of work. Similarly, it is only through the 'tapas' of regular and earnest study of scriptural literature that we can also hope to succeed and prosper in great "second career of the spirit" awaiting us. So studying the Vedas regularly should be looked upon by all of us as a holy 'tapas'... "sa tapO tapyata, sa tapastaptvA!" This is one of many wonderful messages of spiritual wisdom contained in that opening episode of the "brghuvalli" in the ancient Upanishad. ****************************************** We will continue in the next post. Regards, dAsan, Sudarshan --- End forwarded message --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2001 Report Share Posted November 27, 2001 --- bindinganavale suresh <suresh_b_n wrote: > tiruvengadam > bindinganavale suresh <suresh_b_n > Mon, 26 Nov 2001 22:07:04 -0800 (PST) > Reply-to: tiruvengadam > Re: [tiruvengadam] "adhIhi bhagavO brahmEti" - The value > of scriptural studies > > Dear Sudarshan, > That was a really interesting > mail.After > i finished reading it and was thinking about the > same,various thoughts relating to the article arose in > my mind which i would like to share with you and the > members. > > 1. The Brahma sutra extols the value of the scriptures > especially the vedanta portion of the upanishads as > the > only source of the knowledge of Brahman leading to the > > highest good of man. > > 2. Sri Krishna in his Bhagavad geetha has stressed the > Importance of the veda and vedanta and has called man > to adhere to it for his own good both in this world > and > spiritual.Infact the Geetha itself is the essence of > all the upanishads and is an answer to Arjuna's > question of What is "Good" for him.Sri Krishna in > explaining to arjuna the meaning of "Good" does not > stop at the science of living in the material world > which knowledge is contained in the vedas but also > explains the science of spiritual fullfilment which is > the supreme good for an individual as it confirms with > > his true nature inherent in him. > > 3. Sri Adi sankaracharya in his Bhaja govindam in the > very first verse drives home the point about the > limitations of secular knowledge when he says that at > the time of death no amount of secular knowledge can > save a man from the noose of death except the divine > name of Govinda.To make it more clear,he goes on to > say that daily study of scriptures or Bhagavad geetha > or vishnu sahasranamam will enable a person to have > the proper state of mind to think and adore the > supreme lord Govinda during his life time and also at > the time of death which alone can save him from the > terrible cycle of birth and death called samsara. > > Hope the above mail has added more taste to the > article. > > Sri Krishnaarpanamasthu > Suresh B.N. GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities./ps/info1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2001 Report Share Posted November 29, 2001 Pranamams to the Learned. Sri Sudarshan is very eloquent in the position he has taken with regard to study of scriptures. Notwithstanding his beliefs and convictions, adiyen would like to seek a clarification. Is he by any chance suggesting that once we depart here an after life awaits us where we would be gainfully employed coveting material or some such benefits and study of scriptures would prepare us for them? I thought the goal of this life should be moksha which would end the cycle of births and deaths once and for all. I believe that once in the the state of moksha, one would have the constant vision of God. To quote from a treatise on Visishtaadvaita philosophy, " The liberated soul has a direct vision of Brahman in Vaikuntha and is absorbed in the eternal bliss of union with Him. To the liberated soul, the pluralistic world remains, but the pluralistic view is abolished. The distinction between him and the Brahman still remains and there is no loss of personality. He will continue for ever enjoy this state of bliss by serving Brahman". When expalined so simply and understood, I don't see a real need for going deep into scriptural studies unless I do it for one or more of the following reasons: a) I just love to read scripture and enjoy it just as many read mystery novels; b) I am in the profession of a priest and it is my duty to be erudite in the knowledge of God and like to impress the devotees with my knowledge; c) I like to participate in debates about scriptures and their role in the society; d) seek answers in scriptures if possible, for worldly problems; e) try to pass some of that knowledge to my children if at all by any divine intervention they are inclined to listen, and so on. If I am so inclined as to reduce effects of my sins, I will perhaps recite Vishnu Shasranama, Narayanopanishad or Krishna nama sankeertana because each one of those proclaims to remove our sins (paapas) if recited regularly. And that is easy enough to do. I am not trying to be facetious but I think it is a stretch to say that study and practice of scriptures will give an edge in an after life. If we end up being reborn, there is no guarantee that it will be as humans again and there is no guarantee that we will be carrying the memory. I would certainly appreciate some clarifications of the premise on which Sri Sudarshan based his statements. Adiyen. Keshava Prasad. Sudarshan M.K. wrote: > tiruvengadam, "Sudarshan M.K." <sampathkumar_2000> > wrote: > Dear friends, > > There are many lessons one can draw from the opening 'anuvAkam' of > the "brughuvalli" of the Taittiriya Upanishad. One of them is that it > very, important to regularly study our religious or scriptural > literature. In fact such study should become a lifetime habit. > > The young Brghu goes to his father Sage Varuna and asks him "adhIhi > bhagavO brahmEti" --- "Sir, please teach me all I need to know about > Brahman". > > Varuna replies, "tad vijignyAsasva, tad brahmEthi" - "Begin intense > study, so that you may succeed in knowing That Brahman". And the > young Brughu then goes away to perform the 'tapas' of intense > study - "sa tapO tapyata, sa tapastaptvA!". > > Why is it important to devote ourselves to such intense study as > Brghu undertook? > > The answer is quite simple and practical. > > We need to regularly study the literature of our scriptures for the > same reason why in our professional careers we regularly read > literature related to our respective field of work or specialization. > > The doctor or surgeon who passes his MD or FRCS does not stop > studying; the lawyer or attorney-at-law never stops reading legal > journals, digests and manuals. The same is the case with architects, > accountants, engineers, IT-specialists or fashion designers. No > matter how old or rich in experience a professional is, he knows that > he is only as good as the knowledge he possesses is thorough and > up-to-date. And to ensure that he is up-to-date, he will go to any > length, undergo any pain and perform any kind of 'tapas' necessary, > isn't it? A professional who is not constantly on what is called the > "cutting-edge" or "leading-edge" of his field of work or > specialization gets "left behind" rapidly. And in these modern days > of 'knowledge-workers', as all professionals know, the world shows no > respect whatsoever for an out-of-date professional. Which is why > "continuing professional education" has become so important for all > of us. Sooner or later, we all realize that either we continually > study or we perish. > > What is true of our professional careers, unfortunately, holds good > for our spiritual careers too. > > Our professional careers span, say, only 40 or 50 years … at > best, we can all hope to sustain our worldly careers only as long as > our lifetimes. But our spiritual careers extend well and far beyond > our bodily lifetime on earth. Every faith in this world, be it Vedic, > Christian or Buddhist, tells us that each of us has a soul - a > 'jeevAtma' - and this soul is eternal. So as 'jeevAtmAs' all of us > have eternal career spans to look forward to. There is a second and > greater career awaiting us after we have all spent our time upon > earth. > > Now, being the first-class professionals we all like to believe we > are, should we not therefore begin preparing a career plan for > ourselves in the after-world? Should we not be asking ourselves > questions such as the following: > > (1) "What will my second career in the spiritual realm be after I > have left these worldly shores?". > > (2) "What will be expected of me in that second career of mine? What > sort of duties and responsibilities will I be carrying out then? What > demands will be made upon this soul of mine in that career-role?". > > (3) "In order to succeed in that eternal career, what kinds and > varieties of knowledge should be acquired by my spirit? How should I > qualify myself for that great second career which awaits me? What > knowledge or 'atma-gnyAnam' should I be gaining?" > > (4) "And how, where and from whom or from which institute should I > gather that sort of knowledge?". > > There is one answer only for all such questions and it is this: Great > Religious Literature. > > The greatest religious literature that we as Indians have are the > priceless Vedas handed down to us by our ancient 'rshi-s' and which > have in fact one primary purpose only: viz. to prepare us for our > spiritual careers in the after world. And in doing so they serve the > very same purpose as any of the literature we all avidly seek in our > professional life viz. "continuous education" for a better and ever > more prosperous future career. > > The study of the Vedas, or any scriptural literature for that matter, > involves, no doubt, discipline and hard work. It is a kind of > 'tapas'. (Attending 'vedadhyAyana' classes, for example, thrice a > week at Sri.IVK Chary's house here in Kuwait, is perhaps a sort of > 'tapas'too on our part).If we are successful in our professional > careers it is because of the "tapas" we undertook voluntarily, isn't > it? We must remember how hard we toiled for the expertise we > eventually gained in our field of work. Similarly, it is only through > the 'tapas' of regular and earnest study of scriptural literature > that we can also hope to succeed and prosper in great "second career > of the spirit" awaiting us. So studying the Vedas regularly should be > looked upon by all of us as a holy 'tapas'... "sa tapO tapyata, sa > tapastaptvA!" > > This is one of many wonderful messages of spiritual wisdom contained > in that opening episode of the "brghuvalli" in the ancient Upanishad. > > ****************************************** > We will continue in the next post. > Regards, > dAsan, > Sudarshan > --- End forwarded message --- > > > > Srirangasri- > > > > Your use of is subject to -- MZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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