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Guest guest Posted February 23, 2002 Report Share Posted February 23, 2002 rright handsde. queery of daman krishna-sri desika enumerates as follows in his sostra-.right side 1 .chakra-both kala and loka chakra2.mazhu or parasuof the rudras 3kundam 4dandam 5ankusam 6sathamukagni 7nandakam the sword 8shakthi.on the left -9-panchjanyam 10 sarangamthe bow 11pasam 12hala or the plough 13vajra-more powerful than that of indra 14gatha-kowmothaki 15musalam or ulakkai 16trisulam..fire power,gunpowder were known at that time-700 years back but desika does not mention a gunor equivalent.why?fire etc. could be created by manthra power is one aNSWER. THEN WHY VARIOUS AYUDAS ARE NECCESSARY.BRAMAHSTRA IS SUPPOSED TO HAVE THE POWER OF AFUSION BOMB AS INFERRED FROM THE DESCRIBED RESAULTS OF USING ONE.PERHAPS SOME OF OUR FRIENDS CAN ANSWER AND OBLIGE.PArdon the impertinence.adiyen narayana dasan Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games To from this group, send an email to:Srirangasri-Your use of is subject to the Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2002 Report Share Posted February 24, 2002 Hari Om. Pranams. I submit that the images of Gods and Goddesses, holding various Ayudhams and other objects developed over several aeons. Some of the objects were symbols of something much more esoteric. Some represented the psychological range of the people at that point of time. Brhmastra, Narayanastra and Pasupatastra are all Maha Astras, with a greatly varied capability. They cannot be compared to fission or fusion bombs, which once detonated, destroy everyone and everything, including the persons who detonated them, unless they run away from that spot! The targeting of Brahmastra on the other hand, is 'Anoraniyan, Mahato Mahiyan' (I hope i got the spelling correctly), i.e. as small as an atom or as big as the Universe! Sri Rama used a blade of grass (with suitable mantra) to act as an Astra against Kakasura (Jayant, the son of Indra), when he was trying to trouble Sita Mata. The blade of grass took the form of a Divyastra and pursued Kakasura (it could have easily overtaken him and killed him, but that was not the intention of Sri Rama!), all over the worlds. Finally he had to surrender to Sri Rama. Thank you for initiating discussion on a very interesting topic. Let us hope scholars will shed more light on Lord's Ayudhas. Hari Om Tatsat. Swamy SV --- Rajaram Venkataramani <v_raja_ram wrote: > > Dear SrI Rajagopalan - > Chakra itself has the fire in it. This is known from > the moola mantra which refers to the maha jwala. All > the fire that we see come only from the maha jwala. > The brahmastra cannot be compared to the modern > fusion bomb or fission bomb. The brahmastra could > destroy the whole universe and target one foetus in > the womb as in the case of Abhimanyu, uttara putra. > But that is not possible for brahmastra. Secondly > brahmastra is not in the category of fire, it is in > the category of pradhana for which there is no > equivalent in the modern world. > Various ayudas are required because they wanted > control the range and effect. Most of these ayudas > exist in the platforms of yantra and mantra. > Yourd humbly > Rajaram V. > Rajagopalan Narayan <rajagopalannarayan > wrote: > rright handsde. queery of daman krishna-sri desika > enumerates as follows in his sostra-.right side 1 > .chakra-both kala and loka chakra2.mazhu or parasuof > the rudras 3kundam 4dandam 5ankusam 6sathamukagni > 7nandakam the sword 8shakthi.on the left > -9-panchjanyam 10 sarangamthe bow 11pasam 12hala or > the plough 13vajra-more powerful than that of indra > 14gatha-kowmothaki 15musalam or ulakkai > 16trisulam..fire power,gunpowder were known at that > time-700 years back but desika does not mention a > gunor equivalent.why?fire etc. could be created by > manthra power is one aNSWER. THEN WHY VARIOUS AYUDAS > ARE NECCESSARY.BRAMAHSTRA IS SUPPOSED TO HAVE THE > POWER OF AFUSION BOMB AS INFERRED FROM THE DESCRIBED > RESAULTS OF USING ONE.PERHAPS SOME OF OUR FRIENDS > CAN ANSWER AND OBLIGE.PArdon the impertinence.adiyen > narayana dasan > > > > > > Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games > Sponsor > > > Srirangasri- > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2002 Report Share Posted February 24, 2002 SrI: NamO Narayana: Dear Sri Vaishnavas: AdiyEn's two cents worth interpretation. The Lord's cache of arms [an interesting pun Is emerging on the word "arms" - Shodasa Ayuda And Ashta Bhuja. Swami Desikan's works will Continue to bring out innumerous anubhavams], firstly is to give Confidence to his devotees, Those who care to seek refuge in him. Secondly, It could be a plain strategy, that Based on the "effect" the Lord wants he uses The right weapon. What AdiyEn believes, the most important reason Could be, is that, Sriya:Pathi in their unending Karunai would always look forward to correct their Children rather than destroying and hence he uses The "smaller" weapon to bring the erring jiva into Order. Sudarsanazhvar is too big to keep "going around" For smaller instances and additionally, AdiyEn feels That other Nithya Suris would have requested for Lord's kaimkaryam by being one Ayudha or the other. dAsan Anand Sampathkumar 24th February 2002 Srimad Azhagia Singar Thiruvadigale Saranam Shrimate Shri Seetha Ramachandra Parabrahmane Nama: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2002 Report Share Posted February 24, 2002 Hari Om. I tend to agree with Sri Anand Sampatkumar. God is very merciful and would try all means to correct. Even when He used the Divyastras to eliminate the opponents, it was in a way acknowledging their greatness, which unfortunately was turned to wrong ends. And He is also described as Sahasraksha (with thousand eyes) and Sahasrapath (with thousand feet). And Sahasra is also used as a synonym for 'infinitely many', so we can envisage Him as Universally equipped to right the Wrongs! Hari Om. Swamy SV --- Anand Sampathkumar <may2192 wrote: > SrI: > NamO Narayana: > > Dear Sri Vaishnavas: > > AdiyEn's two cents worth interpretation. > > The Lord's cache of arms [an interesting pun > Is emerging on the word "arms" - Shodasa Ayuda > And Ashta Bhuja. Swami Desikan's works will > Continue to bring out innumerous anubhavams], > firstly is to give Confidence to his devotees, > Those who care to seek refuge in him. > > Secondly, It could be a plain strategy, that > Based on the "effect" the Lord wants he uses > The right weapon. > > What AdiyEn believes, the most important reason > Could be, is that, Sriya:Pathi in their unending > Karunai would always look forward to correct their > Children rather than destroying and hence he uses > The "smaller" weapon to bring the erring jiva into > Order. > > Sudarsanazhvar is too big to keep "going around" > For smaller instances and additionally, AdiyEn feels > That other Nithya Suris would have requested for > Lord's kaimkaryam by being one Ayudha or the other. > > dAsan > Anand Sampathkumar > 24th February 2002 > > Srimad Azhagia Singar Thiruvadigale Saranam > Shrimate Shri Seetha Ramachandra Parabrahmane Nama: > > > > swamy swarna [swamyswarna] > Sunday, February 24, 2002 14:38 > Rajaram Venkataramani; Rajagopalan Narayan; > SrirangaSri > Re: shodasa ayuda > > > Hari Om. Pranams. I submit that the images of Gods > and Goddesses, > holding various Ayudhams and other objects developed > over several aeons. > Some of the objects were symbols of something much > more esoteric. Some > represented the psychological range of the people at > that point of time. > > Brhmastra, Narayanastra and Pasupatastra are all > Maha > Astras, with a greatly varied capability. They > cannot > be compared to fission or fusion bombs, which once > detonated, destroy everyone and everything, > including > the persons who detonated them, unless they run away > from that spot! The targeting of Brahmastra on the > other hand, is 'Anoraniyan, Mahato Mahiyan' (I hope > i > got the spelling correctly), i.e. as small as an > atom > or as big as the Universe! > > Sri Rama used a blade of grass (with suitable > mantra) > to act as an Astra against Kakasura (Jayant, the son > of Indra), when he was trying to trouble Sita Mata. > The blade of grass took the form of a Divyastra and > pursued Kakasura (it could have easily overtaken him > and killed him, but that was not the intention of > Sri > Rama!), all over the worlds. Finally he had to > surrender to Sri Rama. > > Thank you for initiating discussion on a very > interesting topic. Let us hope scholars will shed > more > light on Lord's Ayudhas. > > Hari Om Tatsat. > > Swamy SV > > > --- Rajaram Venkataramani <v_raja_ram > wrote: > > > > Dear SrI Rajagopalan - > > Chakra itself has the fire in it. This is known > from > > the moola mantra which refers to the maha jwala. > All > > the fire that we see come only from the maha > jwala. > > The brahmastra cannot be compared to the modern > > fusion bomb or fission bomb. The brahmastra could > > destroy the whole universe and target one foetus > in > > the womb as in the case of Abhimanyu, uttara > putra. > > But that is not possible for brahmastra. Secondly > > brahmastra is not in the category of fire, it is > in > > the category of pradhana for which there is no > > equivalent in the modern world. > > Various ayudas are required because they wanted > > control the range and effect. Most of these ayudas > > exist in the platforms of yantra and mantra. > > Yourd humbly > > Rajaram V. > > Rajagopalan Narayan > <rajagopalannarayan > > wrote: > > rright handsde. queery of daman krishna-sri > desika > > enumerates as follows in his sostra-.right side 1 > > .chakra-both kala and loka chakra2.mazhu or > parasuof > > the rudras 3kundam 4dandam 5ankusam 6sathamukagni > > 7nandakam the sword 8shakthi.on the left > > -9-panchjanyam 10 sarangamthe bow 11pasam 12hala > or > > the plough 13vajra-more powerful than that of > indra > > 14gatha-kowmothaki 15musalam or ulakkai > > 16trisulam..fire power,gunpowder were known at > that > > time-700 years back but desika does not mention a > > gunor equivalent.why?fire etc. could be created by > > manthra power is one aNSWER. THEN WHY VARIOUS > AYUDAS > > ARE NECCESSARY.BRAMAHSTRA IS SUPPOSED TO HAVE THE > > POWER OF AFUSION BOMB AS INFERRED FROM THE > DESCRIBED > > RESAULTS OF USING ONE.PERHAPS SOME OF OUR FRIENDS > > CAN ANSWER AND OBLIGE.PArdon the > impertinence.adiyen > > narayana dasan > > > > > > > > > > > > Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games > > Sponsor > > > > > > Srirangasri- > > > > > > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games > > > > > Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games > http://sports. > > > ------------------------ Sponsor > > > Srirangasri- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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