Guest guest Posted May 11, 2002 Report Share Posted May 11, 2002 Respected Swamins/Bhagavathas, Some days back there was a query from one of the members to clarify whether Brahman is identified with Lord Narayana, whether there is any authority to state that Vaikunta is His abode. I have attempted to answer the queries. Brahman is the ultimate reality which evolves itself as this world. Brahman isthat which spontaneously bursts forth as nature and it is also the ultimate cause 0f this universe. This is accepted by all the aasthika schools of philosophy. In Vaishnava philosophy as propounded by Sri Ramanuja Brahman is identified with Lord Narayana. The following is available in Narayana sooktham which is recited as part of Purusha Sooktham . naaraayanaparamm brahmatattvam, naaraayanahparah..... He is param jothi, He is paramaatma, and so on. sa brahma, sa shivaha, saeindrah, paramah swaraat and so on. This is established in Varahapuranam, Ramayanam, Mahabharatham, Vishnupuranam, BhagavathGita, Harivamsam, Bhagavatham etc. Sage Vyasa has said in sahastranama sataam, satyam, punahsatyam, udhruthya bhujamuchhyathe vedaat shastram param naasti, na deivam kesaavath param. All the above are accepted as pramanams or authority. Vaikuntam is described in Kaushitaki upanishad. Sri Ramanuja has followed this in his Vaikunta Gadyam Brahman is described as Nirguna in the Upanishads. Sri Ramanuja says Nirguna means without bad qualities. So we say Lord Narayana is endowed with all auspicious qualities. This is available in the Vedas. Sri Ramanuja fuses the immanent Upanishadic Absolute withthe transcendent God of the Panchantra or Bhavatha theism. God as the perfect personality is devoid of all demerits and possesses all merits. He has His consort Lakshmi, the symbol of power and mercy. He is called Naaraayana or Vaasudeva. He lives in His citadel Vaikunta which is made of Suddha satthva or Nitya vibhuti. His qualities like knowledge, power, and mercy etc are eternal, infinite, numberless, unlimited, undefiled, and matchless.(Tattva-traya) (pancharaathram is accepted as pramanam or authority). I may be excused if I have wounded the feelings of anybody or if my information is imperfect or based on ignorance. Adiyen, T S Rajagopalan. LAUNCH - Your Music Experience http://launch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2002 Report Share Posted May 13, 2002 Purusha Suktam which has the unique qualification as being part of all the four vedas also has these lines hreeshca te lakshmeeshca patnyau | ahorAtre pArshve | nakshatrANi roopam | ashvinau vyAttam | which essentially says that the Purusham has Lakshimi and Hree has HIS consorts. And Purusha Sukta is the Big Bang as per vedic religion. It is a vivid description of everything manifested. And to whom everything belongs. Please visit musicindiaonline.com and follow links on devotional/sanskrit links to get to Sukta. We have to suppress our temptation to question and start examining to nth degree the significance of numerals as we know it. Sahasranama also starts with 1000 faces etc... but that would be limiting and will render many other vedic statements that declare Brahman to be unlimited. JagadGuru Adi Sankara in an essay available over the net at the kanchi peetam elaborates more on the significance/or insignificance of select numerals used in our vedic literature. A thesis is that these numeric references are not to be taken literally. There is nothing significant about a four armed Sriman Narayana. Whether Sriman Narayana has any arms at all is not worth pondering. P. Suukta clearly says Eta Vanasya Mahima (everything is HIS glory) yad bhUtam yac ca bhavyam (ultimate reality is beyond time) Because Sriman Narayana can will any arm in this world to do just about anything. Sriman Narayana does not need arms that belong to him. It appears such descriptions are similar to the way modern scientists conjure up alien life forms that look much like human being. Adiyen is not qualfied in terms of mastery over these scriptures but adiyen has ventured purely from a common sense point of view. Having admitted the fore. What is Brahman, Who that is Brahman really is beyond my speculative or my domain of reason. no disrespect/offense is meant to anyone or any group. Adiyen having enjoyed and benefitted the knowledge of Purusha Sukta would recommend reading and understanding Purusha Sukta to everyone who has not had the privilege yet. If you need reference to Purusha Suukta or a CD with a beautiful rendition (Tadatmanananda) please send me a note by email. Om Namo Narayana [[ an attempt to render adiyens feelings in Thiruppavai language Ummakey Naam Aatchaivom Matrai Num Kaamangal Matralore Embavai ]] Anandavalli Dasan T --- Rajagopalan Iyengar <mayuramtsr wrote: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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