Fwd: Tirupati door, game of dice -> facts

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anantha praNAmams to all bhAgavathAs.

Just two more facts on the subject, that I gathered

from elders of our family, who have been associated

with the divine divya desa of Tirumala.

1. Afetr showing to the world his proximity with

Hathiram baba,the Lord, gave a boon that Baba's mutt

shall be at an elevated location compared to the

Lord's sanctum sanctorum and so it is today. Hathiram

Baba's mutt is just above the "oonjal mantapam" where

everyday dOlOtsavam is celebrated. Also one can visit

the Hathiram baba's samAdhi enroute to the various

theerthAs in tirumalai.

2. St. AnnamAchArya has also sung of Hathiram Baba.

Unfortunaely adiEn do not have the composition in

memory. Will post it soon.

 

adiEn

dAsAnudAsan

Suderson

--- Sadagopan <sgopan wrote:

> Dear SrI Janakiraman :

>

> Excellent clarification about the life and times of

> this great soul.

>

> My speculation about KubEran was just that !

>

> I am glad to know that this great VenkatEswara

> BhakthA

> lived in the 15th Century. TaLapAkkam Annamayya

> (1408-1503 C.E)

> was another great SrI VenkatEsa BhakthA , who has

> straddled the 15th Century. I wonder whther You have

>

> an exact date of birth for SrI Hathi BhAba to see

> whether their times on Thirumalai might have

> overlapped.

>

> I was aware that Upto 1933 , when the Madras

> Governemnt

> took over the administration of the temple, the

> Mahanthus

> were the key administrators. I was not however aware

>

> which lineage they came from (SaatthAtha MudaliyAr

> et al) .

> You have helped to clarify the link between Mahantus

>

> and the H.J.Bhaba Mutt. Next time , when I am in

> Thirumalai,

> I will make it a point to visit the Mutt and also

> look for the image of the dice game.Thanks SrI

> T.C.A.SatakOpan

> for clearly pointing out the location of the Image

> of the lord

> playing the dice game with His Parama BhakthA.

>

> It is also fascinating to know that the Morning

> SahasranAmam

> for the Lord is done in the name of Sri Hathi Bhaba.

> What a BhAgyam !

> ThiruvEngadamudayAn is indeed Kaliyuga Varadhan.

>

> At this time , I am working on the translation of

> the meanings of

> the 1008 (Sahasra) NaamAs of Lord VenkatEswara.

> Hence Your input

> that the SrI VenkatEsa Sahasra Naama is linked to

> SrI Hathi Bhaba

> has special interst to me in the context of this

> Kaimkaryam.

> The translation and the commentary/gloss on the 108

> (AshTotthara Satha)

> Naamas of Lord VenkatEsA used in the other dialy

> archanai has been

> completed and sent to the Executive officer of TT

> DevasthAnam today

> for information and comments on release as a TTD

> Publication.

> It will take some time to complete the kaimakryam on

> the write up on the SrI VenakatEsa sahasra Naamams.

>

> These two kiamkaryams were undertaken after hearing

> that there are

> no translations of the Shasra and AshtOtthar sathams

> in English

> and other languages now (?).This surprises me. If

> any one of

> the BhakthAs know of the existence of these two

> translations

> in Indian Languages or Tamil or Sanskrit, , please

> let me know .

> I will be most grateful.

>

> When completed , the /Meanings commentaries

> on SrI VenaktEsa NaamAvaLis will be archived in

> the SrI VenkatEswara Home page created by Sri

> Haresh Balasubramanyan of Singapore and adiyEn

> ( http://srimannarayana.net/foreword.html).

>

> SrI Venkatesa CharaNou SaraNam PrapadhyE ,

> Oppiliappan Koil VaradAchAri Sadagopan

At 11:27 AM 9/24/02 -0000, you wrote:

> >I was able to find out some references from the web

> relating to

> >Hathiram Baba and temple's maintenance.

> >

> >A DAY IN THE DEITY'S LIFE:

> >^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

> >His day begins with the Melu Kolupu Paata

> (awakening song) sung by

> >the descendants of Annamacharya, followed by Sri

> Venkateswara

> >Suprabhatam.

> >

> >A traditional cowherd or Yadava is given the first

> darsan or holy

> >sight of the idol, of the day. The recitation of

> the deity's 1,008

> >names is begun in the name of Hathiram Babaji, a

> 15th century seeker

> >from North India.

> >

> >Administration of temple:

> >^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

> >The Pallavas of Kanchipuram (9th century AD)

> ,Cholas of Tanjore (10

> >century) , Pandyas of mathura and Vijayanagara

> pradhans (14th & 15th

> >centuries) were committed devotees of Lord

> Venkateswara. The statues

> >of Sri Krishna Devaraya and his spouse stand in the

> premises of the

> >temple. After the decline of Vijayanagara Empire,

> kings from various

> >states like the king of Mysore and Gadwal,

> worshiped the lord as

> >pilgrims and gifted various ornaments and valuables

> to the temple.

> >Raghoji Bhonsle, the Maharastrian commander visited

> the temple and

> >made a permanent arrangement regarding the regular

> pujas to be done

> >to the Lord.

> >

> >Later the administrative authority of Venkateswara

> Temple along with

> >the temples in the village lied with the head of

> Hathiram Ji mutt in

> >Tirumala. Till 1933 the administration of the

> temple had been wielded

> >by the head of that monastery, Hathiram Mahantha.

> >

> >In 1933 the Madras government appointed a

> Commission to Tirumala

> >Tirupati Devasthanam through a special statutory

> authority to run the

> >administration of the temple.

> >

> >Hathiram Baba's brief story:

> >^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

> >Haathiram was North-Indian by birth. He came down

> to south. In

> >tirupati, he constructed a small mutt and settled.

> Every day he used

> >to worship the Lord of the Seven Hills.

> >

> >Sri Venkateswara was pleased with his devotion and

> used to come and

> >play dice with him. One such day he forgot his

> necklace there and

> >returned to his Sanctum Sanctorum. Babaji noticed

> it after Swami left

> >his place. He wanted to hand it over to the Lord.

> He started to the

> >temple. In the meanwhile priests of the temple

> observed that the

> >necklace was missing. They complained to the

> authorities.

> >

> >In the meanwhile Bavaji arrived and handed over the

> necklace to them.

> >When questioned he answered with all innocence that

> the Lord had

> >forgotten it in his mutt.

> >

> >They did not believe him, and wanted to embarass

> him. So they locked

> >him up in a room with ten kilos of cooked rice and

> ten bundles of

> >sugarcane and challenged him, "If you really are

> like an elephant you

> >must eat every bit of this food by daybreak".

> Within five minutes of

> >being locked up Hathiram Baba, having consumed the

> ten kilos of rice

> >and the ten bundles of sugarcane, kicked the locked

> doors to pieces

> >and stepped out trumpeting like an elephant.

> >

> >Hathiram baba's mutt exists even today opposite the

> temple and its a

> >jiva-samadhi. The scenes of Hathiram's game with

> the lord is depicted

> >on the doors to entrance of the temple.

> >

> >-- pradeep

> >

> >(I can provide any references to the web-sites from

> which I

> >abstracted this, upon request)

> >

> >

> >

>

>-----------------------------

>

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