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Dear mr Venkatesan,

 

 

 

Recently I saw ur mails in bhakti list. U have asked for pramana for the

authorship of sironru thoopul taniyan by Sri Piillai lokacharya. Apt reply was

given by sri Dileepan.You say that Swami Desika is the author of Lokachrya

panchasat.I refute your words by the following proofs.

 

1. Swami Desika’s charitam is written by one sri Dottacharya who belongs to

Thennachrya sampradayam. He has mentioned all the works of Swami Desika but

Lokacharya panchasat is not seen in the list.

 

2 The Famous scholar of thennacharya sampradayaof 20th century SRI PBA swami

has published all the Sanskrit works of Swami Desika . there in the stotra

vibaga lokachrya panchasat is not seen.

 

So it is obvious that the authorship of lokacharya panchasat by

Swami Desika is not at all accepted by your own thennacharya scholars. It is a

new creation by its stlyle.

 

 

 

I hope this is enough for u now.

 

Kaasyapah

 

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Dear Bhagavatas:

I cannot agree more with what Sri Venkatesan says:

"I will also request you to kindly close this topic

unless someone presents educational, researched

material in support of their views".

 

In fact, my original query was for seeking Pramanam for the two Thanianas

"attributed" to Pillai Lokacharya and Swami Desika respectively.

This has not been answered fully to the satisfaction of all.

 

Further discussions on this subject would only to disrupt our focus

of highlighting the areas of agreement and not harping on the

differences.

 

Unless someone comes up with appropriate Pramanams

for both the claims, acceptable to all,

no further discussions on the subject can be allowed.

 

Dasoham

Anbil Ramaswamy

Moderator

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Dear Sri Anbil Swami and others,

 

AdiyEn does not want to keep going along this thread

unless logical, acceptable data is presented. Yet I

see notes such as this that says "your thennacharya"

etc. Early on I had made note of the fact that I was

presenting arguments from an objective perspective and

not from a kalai perspective.

 

Regarding the pramAnam presented by Sri Dileepan I

have already explained the objections to it by

Thennacharya scholars - we are all aware that not all

statements from the acharya prabhavams of either side

are accepted by the others; knowing that, they can be

used as universal pramaNams only when they are equally

accepted by all scholars.

 

The note is also incorrect because I had never said

that Lokacharya Panchasat was authored by Sri Desika.

In fact, I agreed with others that proof should be

asked for its authorship (as well as for some other

granthas which went practically unchallenged). It is

also interesting to note that Sri PBA Swami and Sri

Purisai Swami are quoted in reference but their

objections to the authorship of the Seeronru thaniyan

is largely ignored. I know they are being quoted to

show that not all Thennacharya scholars agree on the

authorship of the said grantha; nevertheless I think

it is misleading to use them just for this one count.

 

I will also request you to kindly close this topic

unless someone presents educational, researched

material in support of their views.

 

adiyEn madhurakavi dAsan

TCA Venkatesan

http://www.acharya.org

 

--- vedanta desikan <kavitaarkikasimhan wrote:

>

> Dear mr Venkatesan,

>

>

>

> Recently I saw ur mails in bhakti list. U have asked

> for pramana for the authorship of sironru thoopul taniyan

> by Sri Piillai lokacharya. Apt reply was given by sri

> Dileepan.You say that Swami Desika is the author of

> Lokachrya panchasat.I refute your words by the following

> proofs.

>

> 1. Swami Desika’s charitam is written by one sri

> Dottacharya who belongs to Thennachrya sampradayam. He

> has mentioned all the works of Swami Desika but

> Lokacharya panchasat is not seen in the list.

>

> 2 The Famous scholar of thennacharya sampradayaof 20th

> century SRI PBA swami has published all the Sanskrit

> works of Swami Desika . there in the stotra vibaga

> lokachrya panchasat is not seen.

>

> So it is obvious that the authorship of

> lokacharya panchasat by Swami Desika is not at all

> accepted by your own thennacharya scholars. It is a new

> creation by its stlyle.

>

>

>

> I hope this is enough for u now.

>

> Kaasyapah

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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