On God’s desire.

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Dear Bhagavatas:

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Anbil Ramaswamy

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Ref: On God’s desire.

 

The discussion on the above subject is interesting. Adiyen’s humble

submission (Adiyen seyyum vinnappam):

 

In the very last pasuram of Tiruvoimozhi(at the end of tenth decad), Saint

Nammazhwar enjoys thus:

 

AvAvaracchuzh ariyai ayanai aranai alatri

AvAvatru vEdu petra kurukur satagopan chonna

AvAvilandhAdhikalAl ivai Ayiramum, mudintha

AvAvilandhAdhi IppatharindAr pirandhAr uyarndE

 

Sriman Narayana, Who mingles with a yearning (desire) with His AsrithAs

(devotees), Who is the AntaryAmi of all including Brahma and Rudra, was

successfully sought by Satakopa with a passionate longing (desire), in an

impelling manner. With his ambition (desire) now fulfilled, he is in

communion with the Supreme Being. This concluding decad sung in Parambhakti

(desire), from among a thousand pasurams, will ensure the blessing of being

born as heavenly Nityasooris’ equal.

 

Rhyming words form part of any poetry, but in this last pasuram, it is

significant Nammazhwar uses the same term ‘AvA’ in each of the four lines.

The first AvA (desire) in AvAvaracchuzh , the yearning of Sriman Narayana,

should be read as His infinite merciful love towards His creations. The

second AvA in AvAvatru is the fulfillment of the longing of the Azhwar for

communion with the Lord. The third AvA in AvAvilandhAdhikalAl connotes the

intense craving for God that led to the genesis of these pasurams. The

fourth AvA in AvAvilandhAdhikalAl conveys the meaning that this last decad

(ten pasurams) is also as a result of Paramabhakti(desire) that guarantees

birth in the abode of Nityasooris when sung with devotion.

 

While God descends with a desire (merciful love) to mingle with us, we, as

devotees can elevate ourselves to reach Him with a craving desire for Him.

The desire here is mutual and the link can be perceived when we take up the

very first pasuram of Tiruvoimozhi. In the AndhAdhi style where the last

word of a pasuram is the first word of the next pasuram, Azhwar’s last

pasuram of the thousand songs ends with ‘UyarnthE’. Then coming back to the

very first pasuram at the starting point, we find that the pasuram begins

with ‘Uyarvara’. Says the Azhwar, ‘Oh, my mind!, to get elevated, worship

the effulgent feet of the One Lord Who possesses matchless auspicious

qualities (KalyAna GunAs)’. Thus the meeting point is culmination of the

mutual ‘desires’ of God (to ennoble our souls) and the devotees (to elevate

ourselves). The path for the progress is laid down in nine steps by Vedanta

Desika inhis ‘ParamapadaSopAnam’.

With PranAms.

Dasan - K.Devanathan

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Bhagavatas:

Here is another query on the subject from Sri Srikanth.

Dasoham

Anbil Ramaswamy

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>"Srikanth H.R." <hrsriks

>Ram Anbil <Ramanbil

>Re: On God’s desire.

>Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:53:06 -0800 (PST)

>

>

>Respected/Dear Sri Anbil Swamin,

>

>My name is Srikanth, residing in Bangalore.

>I want to ask one more question here supporting

>the original question on God's desire.

>But I will go by Swami Desikan's sampradayam.

>A few members in the list may not agree with it.

>Hence I am writing to you personally. Please

>see if it is ok to post it on the lists. You can

>also make deletions wherever you deem fit.

>

>I want to mention first that i am a novice in

>sastric matters. All I know is that SrimanNarayana

>is Supreme and we all should dedicate our lives to

>Him.

>

>Here is my question.

>

>At the beginning of creation, according to my

>understanding, everything (cit and acit) was a

>bundle without any forms/shapes (asat). Now SriHari

>gave bodies to all jivas and gave them a chance to

>reach him. This is out of His infinite mercy.

>Now according to our sampradayam, unless a jiva

>"WILLS" for Him, Srihari will not grant his grace.

>This is the concept of Sahetuka+nirhetuka krupa.

>Please correct me if I am wrong. With this in mind,

>a jiva can argue thus..

>

>"Oh God, I do not will to come to you. Leave me

>as this bundle (asat) as I am. I do not want a

>body because even if you give me a body, i will

>enjoy earthly pleasures as I have no desire to

>reach you. So you being omniscient, can see that

>I will merely suffer on earth if you give me a

>body. So please leave me in this state of asat".

>

>Inspite of this if God creates a body for the jiva,

>then it means He "DESIRES" to have leela. Also,

>he wants the jiva to be liberated AGAINST the jiva's

>wishes which is not true according to Swami Desikan's

>sampradayam.

>

>Please enlighten me. Even if I donot understand this

>doubt, I will continue to try and dedicate my

>life to SriHari and our Acharya-Azhwars. :-)

>This is a question arising out of curiosity and

>nothing else.

>

>Swami Desikan tiruvadigale saranam,

>dasan,

>Srikanth

>

>

>

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