Guest guest Posted December 26, 2002 Report Share Posted December 26, 2002 sir i would like to know what is the philosophy. shall be greateful if any one can explain it shortly. also in what way it differs from advaita cdrbvn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2002 Report Share Posted December 28, 2002 Sir, To put in simple terms According to The Dvaita Philosophy both THE PARAMATHMA and THE JEEVATHMA are real (satyam) According to The Advaitha Philosophy THE PARAMATHMA alone is real. The Vichishtathvaitha Philosophy is also Advaitha.The difference between these two is subtle,nice and superb.As The Vichishtathvaitha also says that The Paramathma alone is real,it is an Advaitha.However,it is different from Sankar's Advaitha,in as much as Ramanuja (the propounder of The Vichishtathvaita Philosophy) has cleverly removed a snag that he saw in Sankar's Advaita. Let me explain.Adavitha,Dvaitha and The Vichishtathvaitha are the three main philosophies-all based on TheHoly Vedas.In fact they are different interpretations of the same work.The Vedas speak of THE PARAMATMA and THE JEEVATMA. .. While The Vedas say ,in some vakyas ,that The Pramathma alone is real (ie. satyam),in someother vedavakays the same Veda says that both The Paramathma and The Jeevathma are real. The Dvaitha Philosophy (propounded by Modvachariar) accepts that both The Paramathma and The Jeevathma are real.On the otherhand The Advaita Philosophy (propounded by Sankarachariyar) claims that The Pramatma alone is real. It should be apparent that these two statements contradict eachother..In establishing The Advaita Philosophy,The Sankarachariar has had to refute and reject the Vedavakyas that say that both the Paramatma and the Jeevatma are real. Ramanuja was convinced that The Paramatma is alone satya and thus established The Advaita Philosophy.However he felt that it is rather inconvenient to have to reject any vedavakyas-The Holy Vedas is the very source and the authority of his philosophy and thus must be wholly accepted.There cannot be and should not be any inconsistency within the source.Ramanuja clverly removed the snag of Sankara's rejection of certain portions of the source.Thus Ramanuja's philosophy is termed as The Vichishtatvaita-the Advaita that is vichista.It is a modification,rather a glorification of the earlier Advaita philosophy.He has explained through a lot of illstrations. This is only a genral outlook.For a clearer understanding of these,there are a lot of books and articles by scholers.Our Acharyars also are explaing these inticacies in their discourses and kalakshepams. All the 3 phhilosophies are good and sound-each in its own way. It may be perplexing for a fresher to hear that contraductiory statements within a framewok have all been accepted and is free from any inconsistency. In a seprate article I would like to attempt to explain the plausibility of such interpretations. with regards, V.KANNAN - <vaidyanathiyer <> Thursday, December 26, 2002 6:57 PM visihtadvata philosophy > sir > > i would like to know what is the philosophy. > shall be greateful if any one can explain it shortly. > also in what way it differs from advaita > > cdrbvn > > > > > Srirangasri- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2002 Report Share Posted December 28, 2002 NOTE FROM THE MODERATOR Dear Bhagavatas: May I draw your attention to the following postings in "Sri Ranga Sri" which deal extensively with the differences between Advaita, Dvaita and Visishtaadvaita philosophies under the title "Greatness of Ramanuja Darsnam". Hope this will clarify the doubts on this issue. AFTER Reading through the entire series, you may feel free to contact me for any questions / doubts / suggestions at "Ramanbil" and NOT at "SriRangasri" journal site. Thanks for your understanding. Dasoham Anbil Ramaswamy Moderator "Sri Ranga Sri" ===================================================================== Vol # / Issue # Date Serial # in SRS site 1 /018 01/24/2001 089 1 /019 01/31/2001 090 1 /020 02/07/2001 092 1 /021 02/14/2001 094 1 /022 02/20/2001 097 1 /023 03/01/2001 116 1 /024 03/03/2001 118 and 1 /025 03/07/2001 122 ============================================================================== *** SRINIVASA **** Sri Kannan, It would be beneficial for this group to know the explanation given by Ramanujar to explain the contradiction you describe. Can you or anyone else in the group help do this. Thank you, Ravi Rajagopal Kannan [vaikan] Friday, December 27, 2002 7:50 PM vaidyanathiyer Cc: Re: visihtadvata philosophy Sir, To put in simple terms According to The Dvaita Philosophy both THE PARAMATHMA and THE JEEVATHMA are real (satyam) According to The Advaitha Philosophy THE PARAMATHMA alone is real. The Vichishtathvaitha Philosophy is also Advaitha.The difference between these two is subtle,nice and superb.As The Vichishtathvaitha also says that The Paramathma alone is real,it is an Advaitha.However,it is different from Sankar's Advaitha,in as much as Ramanuja (the propounder of The Vichishtathvaita Philosophy) has cleverly removed a snag that he saw in Sankar's Advaita. Let me explain. Adavitha,Dvaitha and The Vichishtathvaitha are the three main philosophies - all based on The Holy Vedas.In fact they are different interpretations of the same work.The Vedas speak of THE PARAMATMA and THE JEEVATMA. .. While The Vedas say ,in some vakyas, that The Pramathma alone is real (ie. satyam),in someother vedavakays the same Veda says that both The Paramathma and The Jeevathma are real. The Dvaitha Philosophy (propounded by Modvachariar) accepts that both The Paramathma and The Jeevathma are real. On the other hand, The Advaita Philosophy (propounded by Sankarachariyar) claims that The Pramatma alone is real. It should be apparent that these two statements contradict each other.In establishing The Advaita Philosophy, Sankarachariar has had to refute and reject the Vedavakyas that say that both the Paramatma and the Jeevatma are real. Ramanuja was convinced that Paramatma is alone satya and thus established The Advaita Philosophy. However he felt that it is rather inconvenient to have to reject any vedavakyas - The Holy Vedas is the very source and the authority of his philosophy and thus must be wholly accepted.There cannot be and should not be any inconsistency within the source. Ramanuja clverly removed the snag of Sankara's rejection of certain portions of the source. Thus, Ramanuja's philosophy is termed as The Vichishtatvaita-the Advaita that is vichista.It is a modification,rather a glorification of the earlier Advaita philosophy. He has explained through a lot of illstrations. This is only a genral outlook. For a clearer understanding of these,there are a lot of books and articles by scholers.Our Acharyars also are explaining these inticacies in their discourses and kalakshepams. All the 3 philosophies are good and sound - each in its own way. It may be perplexing for a fresher to hear that contradictory statements within a framewok have all been accepted and is free from any inconsistency. In a seprate article I would like to attempt to explain the plausibility of such interpretations. with regards, V.KANNAN - <vaidyanathiyer <> Thursday, December 26, 2002 6:57 PM visihtadvata philosophy > sir > > i would like to know what is the philosophy. > shall be greateful if any one can explain it shortly. > also in what way it differs from advaita > > cdrbvn > > > > > Srirangasri- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > Srirangasri- Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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