Guest guest Posted February 22, 2003 Report Share Posted February 22, 2003 /namastE. Adding to the comment of /naRkuravar Sri PeriyavAL of /kAnci, I would like to say that I was totally surprised by /bhAratiyAr's thoughts, which are almost identical to the great /AcAryaH. I did not even know that /bhARatiyAr has sung on beautiful pieces on Lord SrI agnI, Who by definition was born out of the /vEdaHs for carrying our messages to the /dEvAs through /yaGnAs. He is /jAta/vEdaSaH. There are other pieces like the ones on /ravi and /candrimA; but the one on /aGni tops them all in content. It is a set of four or five simple pieces and I suggest that our /pAtakaRkaL sing at last one piece in each concert. The message then would reach the people. There is no doubt that statements from /bhAratiyAr carry more weight at the popular level than those of the /param/AcArya. People of all walks of life feel comfortable about identifying with our /bhAratiyAr. He touches the soul of people. /anpuTan, Visu >"M.K.Sudarshan" <sampathkumar_2000 > >CC: tiruvengadam >Re: Re: Must Read.... >Thu, 20 Feb 2003 12:51:35 -0800 (PST) > > >--- RR <rr wrote: > > Dear Sri Dileepan, > > vi) we find the many youngsters employed in IT services' companies > > practically living or imitating the life of Westerners (the current > > divorce > > rates in these metros (in the forward communities) are alarming, > > This is a very very serious situation and i do not claim to know > > the> answers. > >> But I do know that ALL of us have to get together and take > > immediate steps> to revive the traditional Sanskrit education which >to state the> least is in> utter doldrums and has to be the strongest >doses of Oxygen. > > >Dear friends, > >Adiyane has been following this thread of discussion on the list for >some days. It keeps coming up again and again in one form or the >other in all lists. It seems to me it is the eternal schism in the >brahmin's soul and troubles him to no end like a recurring relapse. > >Re; this subject I have always admired what the Sage of Kanchi, Sri >Chandrasekharendra Saraswati had to say in his book "deivattin >kural". He may not be our own 'achArya' but the substance and >significance of what he said cannot be ignored by us. And it is so >thought provoking and passionate it is simply marvellous. It is >reproduced below for your information. > >Regards, >dAsan, >Sudarshan > >QUOTE: > >“People today are caught between two groups holding opposing views. >On the one side they feel the pull of individuals like (me) who >maintain that they must take to the path shown by the (vedic) >sAstrA-s; on the other hand they find themselves drawn in the >opposite direction by reformers who want these “sAstrA-s” to be >changed….” > >“Even now there are people who at heart long for a life of peace >lived according to the old (vedic) tradition. But they do not have >the courage to give up the either the trammels of modern life or the >feeling of pride in the changes effected under reformist movements. >They are in an awkward predicament because they are not fully >committed to the traditional way of life or to the new. > >“Let me tell you how people cannot decide for themselves… of how they >are neither here nor there. In most of their homes you will see >Gandhiji’s portrait and mine too. Now Gandhiji advocated widow >marriage… and I advocate wearing the “sikhA”. Those who respect >Gandhiji do not however have the courage to marry widows. Those who >say they respect me also do not have the courage to wear “sikhA”. >Poor people are these! They do not have any moorings and keep >swinging between one set of beliefs and another. Instead, I tell you, >we must have courage of our convictions and unflinching faith in the >“sAstrA-s”.” > >“If we start to make small compromises in our adherence to the >sAstrAs it will eventually mean following only such scriptural >practices as we find convenient in our everyday life. Some people >tell me with all good intentions: “The dharmasAstrAs are the creation >of r-shis. You are like a r-shi. So you must make (appropriate) >changes in the sAstrA-s in keeping with the times”. Their view is >that just as we remove weeds from the fields we must change (vedic) >customs and duties according to our times. If I take out some rites >and observances from the sAstrA now, thinking them to be weeds, later >another man will turn up and remove some more for the same reason. At >this rate, a time will come when we will not be able to distinguish >the weed from the crop and the entire (vedic) field will become >barren.” > >“It is my duty to see that the sAstrAs are preserved as they are… >founded as they are in the Vedas which are nothing but what the >“parabrahmham” has ordained. I have no authority to change them.” > >“We must not give up the sAstra-ic way of life thinking it to be >difficult to follow. If we are not carried away by the glitter of >modern mundane life, if we reduce our wants and do not run after >money, there will be no need to abandon the customs and rites laid >down by our canonical texts. If we are not obsessed with making money >there will be plenty of time to think of the Lord. And peace and >contentment and happiness will reign.” > >(unquote) > ********** ************* ************* > >Continuing to quote the same “AchAryA”, here is another extract from >his speech: > >(quote) >“The brahmin, if he is true to his dharma, HAS to spend all his time >in learning and chanting the vedas, in performing sacrifices, in >preserving the sAstrA etc. What will he do for a living? If he goes >in search of money or material he WILL NOT BE ABLE TO ATTEND TO HIS >LIFETIME MISSION…. and this mission IS NOT ACCOMPLISHED ON A >PART-TIME BASIS. And if he takes up some other work for his >livelihood, he is likely to become lax in the pursuit of his dharma. >It would be like taking medicine without the necessary diet regimen: >the benign power gained by the brahmin from his vedic learning will >be reduced and there will be a corresponding dimunition in the good >accruing to mankind from his work.” > >“This is one reason why brahmins alone are permitted by the sAstrA-s >to beg for a living (“Unchavrtti”). But the sAstra also has it that >the brahmin must not accept more charity than what is needed for his >bare sustenance. If he received anything in excess, he would be >tempted to seek sensual pleasures and thereby an impediment would be >placed to his inner advancement. There is also the danger that he >would become submissive to the donor and of his twisting the sastrA >to the latter’s liking. > >“The vedic religion prospered in the past … because people belonging >to all varnA-s contributed generously to the brahmin's upkeep and to >the nurturing of the vedic tradition. In Tamilnadu the nAttukOtta >nagarattArs, the kommutti chettis and the vEllAlas raised funds for >Vedic institutions. They felt the vedas were essential for social >good. > >“If the brahmin had not been tempted by the European (or American) >life-style and if he were willing to live austerely according to the >dictates of the sAstrA, other castes (even today) would come forward >to help him. It is not that the others deserted the brahmin. He >himself ran away from his dharma, from his agrahArA, from his village >and from the vedic school because of his new appetite for the life of >luxury made possible with the new technology of the West. He forgot >the high ideals… All told, the argument that the brahmin was >compelled to abandon his dharma because he was denied his daily bread >does not hold water. We cannot but admit that the brahmin became >greedy, that he yearned far more than what he needed for sustenance.” > >“Let us concede that the brahmin left his village because he could >not feed himself there and came to a city like Madras. But did he >find contentment here? What do we see today in actual practice? >Suppose a brahmin receives a salary of Rs.1000/- in Madras today. If >he gets a job in Delhi with double the salary he runs off there. When >he goes to Delhi he would abandon totally the dharma he was able to >practise at least to a small extent in Madras. Later if he were >offered US$4000/- a month in America he would leave his motherland >for that country, lured by the prospect of earning a fortune. There >in the US he would become totally alienated from his religion, from >his dharma, from all his traditions. The brahmin is willing to do >anything, go to any extent, for the sake of money…. The usual excuse >trotted out for the brahmin deserting his dharma does not wash…. Were >he true to his dharma the brahmin would tell himself, “I will >continue to adhere to my dharma come what may, even at the risk of >death.” > >“There is no point in suggesting what people belonging to the past >generations should have done. I would urge the present generation to >perform duties that the past generation neglected to perform. To >repeat, you must not forsake your dharma even on the pain of death. >Are we going to remain deathless? As things stand today, we >accumulate money, suffer humiliation and earn the jealousy of others >and finally we die losing caste by not remaining true to our dharma. >Is it not better then to starve and yet be attached firmly to our >dharma so long as there is breath in us? Is not such loyalty to our >dharma a matter of pride? Why should we care about how others see us, >whether they honour us or speak ill of us? So long as we do not >compete with them for jobs they will not have any cause for jealousy >or resentment against us. Let them call us backward or stupid or >think we are not capable of keeping abreast of the times. Are we not >now already their butt of ridicule? Let us be true to our dharma in >the face of the mockery of others, even in the face of death. Is not >such a lot preferable to suffering the slings of scorn and criticism >earned by forsaking our dharma for the sake of filling our belly?” > >“People ask me: “What is the remedy then today? Do you expect all >brahmins to leave their new life-style and return to vedic learning?” > >“Whether or not I expect them to do so and whether or not such a step >seems possible, I must ask them to do so. > >“Where is the need for a “guru-peeTam” or a seat on which an AchAryA >is installed if I am to keep my mouth shut and watch idly as the >dharma that is the source of everything is being endangered? > >“Even if it seems impossible for brahmins to return to their >varnAshrama-dharma it must be shown to be possible in practice… that >is the whole purpose of the institution called “mutta-s”. They must >harness all their energies towards the attainment of this goal. > >“It is not for me to say that the return of the brahmins to their >vedic dharma is not possible. To take such a view would be contrary >to our very dharma. It is up to you all to make it possible in >practice or not to make it possible. All I can do is to keep >reminding you of the message of the dharmasAstrA-s”. > >(unquote) > > ************** **************** ************* > > > > > > Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more >http://taxes./ > > > >Srirangasri- > > > >Your use of is subject to > > _______________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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