whether god is really listening to our prayers

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Dear Dr.Ramakrishna:

 

Your comments to your response to

point 1 , the following Upanishadic

passages came to my mind:

 

The passage is from KenOpanishad:

 

The student asks the question and the AchAryan

responds:

 

Question:

 

kEnEshitham pathathi prEkshitham mana:

kEna prANa: praTama ; praithi yuktha:

kEnEshithAm vaachamimAm vadhanthi

chakshu: srOthram ka u dEvO yunakthi

 

(Meaning by Dr.NSA Swamy): Prompted by whom does

the mind function in its objects? Being directd by whom

does the chief vital air proceed to function ?

By whom is this speech directed that people utter?

Who is that effulgent God that directs the eyes and

the ears?

 

AchAryan's answer:

 

SrOthrasya SrOthram manasO manO

yath vAchO ha vAcham sa u prAnasya prANa:

chakshuschakshu: athimuchya dheerA:

prEthyAsmAllOkAdh amruthA bhavanthi

 

(Meaning given by Dr.NSA Swamy): Knowing Him

who is the ear of the ear , the mind of the mind ,

the speech of the speech , the life of life

and the eye of the eye, the wise passing out of

this world (through archirAdhi mArgam) after

death become immortal.Such people become MukthAs.

 

Through the next few manthrAs of this humbling

Upanishad , teacher states that such informing

and energizing principle (Brahman) is not to be

known by the external or internal organs.

 

This Upanishad goes on to say: Brahman is infinite

and hence is not knowable as "This Much" with our

limited faculties. It is unknowable in its fullness

and totality but is known to one , who does not think

it is of limited (aparicchinnathvAth BrahmaNa:) is

the comment of Bhagavath RaamAnujA.

 

In the concluding passage of the second khaDam

of this Upanishad , the appeal is made to us for hurrying

to gain Knowledge about Brahman as the possessor of

unique attributes such as Sathyam , Jnanam and

ananthathvam . The phalan of attaining amruthathvam

(immortality ) through such attempt to know about

Brahman is stressed . AzhwArs have stressed this same

Upanishadic message intheir Paasurams ( Thirumangai

in His Periya Thirumozhi paasurams on BadrikAsramam

and elsewhere).

 

NamO NaarAyaNaa !

 

V.Sadagopan

 

 

>Priya Bhagawatas,

>Asmadsrigurubhyonamaha!!!

>

>With reference to the following mail,

adiyen would like to put forth >some points

>

>""""

>Sangeetha wrote:

> Hello Everybody,

> Greetings. I am Sangeetha, Vadagalai Iyengar. I have a very basic >doubt

on whether god is >really listening to our prayers and whether he is with us.

 

 

I am not able to find an answer to this. I will be greatful

if any one of you could share your mystic experiences.

> With Warm Regards

> Sangeetha

>""""

>

>1. Regarding the first point that 'whether god is really listening to >our

prayers and whether He is with us'; it should be noted that if it is not so,

one will not only be able to even raise such a question at all, but also will

not be able to read this messagel itself, because due >to Him only all the

pancha

indriyams are working (led by the mind) as >declared by Himself in

Srimadbhagavadgita.

 

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Namaskarams,

 

God is referred to as Ksheerabdhi Nathan (Lord of Milky Ocean).

 

Our galaxy is Milky Way and it is very nice of our elders to have described

Lord as Universe and as Lord of Milky Ocean.

 

The whole universe is God and our galaxy too. Each step we take or each work

we do is God. "thena vina thrunamapi na chalathi".

Our Society is also our God as we can see in Purusha Suktha.

 

Parabrahman is there with us always and listening to our prayers.

 

 

Thuphal VijayaRaghava Dasan

 

 

 

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Saturday, March 08, 2003 12:53 AM

whether god is really listening to our prayers

 

 

> Priya Bhagawatas,

> Asmadsrigurubhyonamaha!!!

>

> With reference to the following mail, adiyen would like to put forth

> some points

>

> """"

> Sangeetha wrote:

> Hello Everybody,

> Greetings. I am Sangeetha, Vadagalai Iyengar. I have a very basic

> doubt on whether god is

> really listening to our prayers and whether he is with us. I am not able

> to find an answer to

> this. I will be greatful if any one of you could share your mystic

> experiences.

> With Warm Regards

> Sangeetha

> """"

>

> 1. Regarding the first point that 'whether god is really listening to

> our prayers and whether He is with us'; it should be noted that if it

> is not so, one will not only be able to even raise such a question at

> all, but also will not be able to read this messagel itself, because due

> to Him only all the pancha indriyams are working (led by the mind) as

> declared by Himself in Srimadbhagavadgita.

> 2. Though it is very common for most of our minds to assume

> childishness and start questioning the existence/proximity of God when

> some of our silly desires are not fulfilled; it should be remembered

> that God's grace is like a continuous non-stop downpour on every body

> irrespective of one's eligibility/quality , due to which one is able

> to do one or many of the most basic but surviving activities like

> breathe, see, hear, eat, digest, talk, walk, run and what not including

> levelling allegations against Him or even realising the mighty Himself.

>

> 3. Thus it forms the basic responsibility of each and every person

> first to constantly extend one's full gratitude to Him for all the

> favours as referred above (though it may appear basic), He has already

> granted in the past and continuing in the present and the future also

> and there is no scope for accusation/allegations for the missing

> favours.

> 4. While putting to test one's fortunes, if one is able to just

> chant/hear/see the Tirunaamams of the Lord like SriHari, Srikrishna, Sri

> Rama etc then that itself is the biggest fortune one is already

> possessing and there is nothing else other than that one needs to

> aspire for Supreme Bliss. Any other fortune is temporary and

> infinitisimal or of no use in the absence of the Lord's remembrance;

> and Lord's remembrance itself is enough in the absence of any other

> fortune what ever big it may appear.

>

> Jai Srimannarayana

>

> Dr.Kilambi Ramakrishna Ramanuja Dasan

>

>

>

> Oppiliappan

>

>

>

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SrI:

 

Dear SrIman Vijayaraghavan:

 

Your comments are excellent.

 

Your comment refers to the ananththvam aspect of

the Para Brahman, who is hard to visulize.

 

As you indicated , not a blade of grass can move

without Him .

 

In the KenOpanishad again , the Brahman appears

in the form of Yakshan before Vaayu, Agni

and shows that how powerless they are by

themselves and dispeleld their delusion

about their own powers.

 

The Upanishad concludes on a hopeful

message that the attainment of the esoteric

knowledge about Brahman and its existence

can be ralizable thru the practise of

austerities, control and conquest

over senses and performance of prescribed

vedic rites .

 

In the final manthram of the Upanishad ,

it is pointed out that anyone who travels

on this route and practises these observances

is freed of all sins and gets firmly established

in the Supreme abode of SrI Vaikuntam:

 

yO vaa yEthAmEvam Veda apahathya pApmAnam ananthE SvargE

lOkE jyEyE prathithishtathi prathithishtathi

--KEnOpanishad: 4.9

 

NamO NaarAyaNaa

V.Sadagopan

 

..

>Namaskarams,

>

>God is referred to as Ksheerabdhi Nathan (Lord of Milky Ocean).

>

>Our galaxy is Milky Way and it is very nice of our elders to have described

>Lord as Universe and as Lord of Milky Ocean.

>

>The whole universe is God and our galaxy too. Each step we take or each work

we do is God. "thena vina thrunamapi na chalathi".

>Our Society is also our God as we can see in Purusha Suktha.

>

>Parabrahman is there with us always and listening to our prayers.

>

>

>Thuphal VijayaRaghava Dasan

>

>

>

 

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Jai Sriman Narayana!

Asmath Gurubhyo Namha!

 

Dear Sangeetha:

 

 

We often get significantly frustrated to the point

that we start loosing faith in the lOrd. It is my

experience that Lord Sri Venkateswara (Sriman

Narayana) is everywhere and ever ready to help us.

 

Then, why do we get frustrated? If we are completely

dependent on Him and none else (including ourselves),

He defenitely helps us; He helps us in the last

moment. Only thing is that we have to have complete

vishvasam (faith) in Him. Remember that He has to take

care of billions of living beings like you and me who

have also done sharanagathi and are completely

dependent on Him.

 

I have been experiencing this throughout my life.

After surrendering to Him, it is His job to get us

through the samsara. There are a lot of hurdles for us

in life due to out infinite papam performed in this

and previous lives. He often takes us through

shortcuts. The paved road (which looks obviously good

for us)may be 20 miles, while He may take us through a

short cut which is only 20 yards but the road is all

muddy.

 

First thing is that we should have the feeling of

helplessness. "Ye gathi leni nA gathi neevE" You are

the only way for me as I have no other way.

 

Why things don't work and why we get frustrated? We

tend to act independently and want to make independent

decisions. We should let Him plan and act as to how He

is going to help us. Without His support, we can not

exist even for a split second.

 

Therefore, in conclusion, Lord Sriman Narayana is

listning to our prayers. Either our limited mind is

not able to operceive His help, or we are rather

impatient, or we do not have firm faith in Him.

 

With best wishes to you and all glories to Lord Sri

venkateswara, I remain,

 

Sincerely

Narender Reddy

>

Sanngeeta wrote:

> Hello Everybody,

> Greetings. I am Sangeetha,

Vadagalai Iyengar. I have a very basic

> doubt on whether god is

> really listening to our

prayers and whether he is with us. I am not able

> to find an answer to

> this. I will be greatful if

any one of you could share your mystic

> experiences.

> With Warm Regards

> Sangeetha

 

 

 

 

 

 

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