Guest guest Posted April 22, 2003 Report Share Posted April 22, 2003 Jai Ramanuja, Haya means horse ,greeva means neck.So may be the lord whose face was like a horse is called HAYAGREEVA.(HAYAVADANA) DASAN On Sat, 19 Apr 2003 sukumar wrote : >Sri Krishnaya Namah! > >Dear Bhaktas, > >I would appreciate if you could let me know > >the meaning of the word - Hayagriva. > >the above is necessitated as, we used to prepare a delicious >dish called >by the same name and offer it to the Lord and the Lord has also >been called >by the same name - Hayagriva. Is Sri Madhvacharya offered to >Lord >Hayagriva, a dish which then called by the same name once >consumed by the >Lord. > >Humble Pranams! > >Sukumar > > >Sri Krishnaparabrahmane Namah! > > > Malolan Cadambi [sMTP:mcadambi] >16/04/2003 10:21 AM > > Re: need clarification. > >Sri >Srimathe Ramanujaya Namaha > > > Hello all,I have two doubts.1)Is Balarama an avatharam of > > Mahavishnu or is he a an amsam of Adishesan? > >Please see: >http://www.ramanuja.org/sv/bhakti/archives/may2000/0123.html > > >2) What about Hayagrivar? Isn't he an avatharam of Mahavishnu >too? > >Why are we not including him in the Dasavatharam? > >http://www.ramanuja.org/sv/bhakti/archives/mar99/0068.html > >There are about 22 or more avataram-s of the Lord. The DasA >avatArams >are the most prominent. > >Regards, > >Malolan Cadambi > > > > > >Srirangasri- > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > > >------------------------ Sponsor > > >Srirangasri- > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2003 Report Share Posted April 24, 2003 Jai Ramanuja, Thanks for asking this question.The scriptures (saatvik)mension LORD SRIMAN NARAYANA as the supreme reality to whom seekers of salvation must surrender.In GITA too Bhagvan says that those worshipping other gods reach them while those worshipping me attain me from where there is no return.Though the efforts are same ,people for sake of minor & perishing fruits approach other gods while I am ready to give eternal fruits.Even ADI SHANKARACHARYA in his gita bhashya has commented thus.Hence srivaishnavas who seek salvation worship only Bhagvan with one mind.(ananya,which is mentioned in places in GITA).This is a brief answer.There are books written on it.Pl. read ADI SHANKARA'S GITA COMMENTARY. dasan 9minor) , 22 Apr 2003 Nagraj wrote : >Dear All > >Even i requried some clarification,Infact i have asked several >time >these question but none of them have replied. >Do Iyengar worship lord Ganesha,But lot of them say no pl let >me >know what wrong in worshiping Lord ganesh/Vinayaka. > >Kindly do replay > >nagaraj > > - > Vasan Sriranga Chari > sukumar > Cc: 'Malolan Cadambi' ; ; >ramanuja ; bhakti-list > Tuesday, April 22, 2003 5:22 PM > Re: RE: Re: need clarification. > > > > Jai Ramanuja, > Haya means horse ,greeva means neck.So may be the lord whose >face > was like a horse is called HAYAGREEVA.(HAYAVADANA) > DASAN > On Sat, 19 Apr 2003 sukumar wrote : > >Sri Krishnaya Namah! > > > >Dear Bhaktas, > > > >I would appreciate if you could let me know > > > >the meaning of the word - Hayagriva. > > > >the above is necessitated as, we used to prepare a >delicious > >dish called > >by the same name and offer it to the Lord and the Lord has >also > >been called > >by the same name - Hayagriva. Is Sri Madhvacharya offered >to > >Lord > >Hayagriva, a dish which then called by the same name once > >consumed by the > >Lord. > > > >Humble Pranams! > > > >Sukumar > > > > > >Sri Krishnaparabrahmane Namah! > > > > > > Malolan Cadambi [sMTP:mcadambi] > > 16/04/2003 10:21 AM > > > > Re: need clarification. > > > >Sri > >Srimathe Ramanujaya Namaha > > > > > Hello all,I have two doubts.1)Is Balarama an avatharam >of > > > Mahavishnu or is he a an amsam of Adishesan? > > > >Please see: > > >http://www.ramanuja.org/sv/bhakti/archives/may2000/0123.html > > > > >2) What about Hayagrivar? Isn't he an avatharam of >Mahavishnu > >too? > > >Why are we not including him in the Dasavatharam? > > > >http://www.ramanuja.org/sv/bhakti/archives/mar99/0068.html > > > >There are about 22 or more avataram-s of the Lord. The DasA > >avatArams > >are the most prominent. > > > >Regards, > > > >Malolan Cadambi > > > > > > > > > > > >Srirangasri- > > > > > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > >------------------------ Sponsor > > > > > >Srirangasri- > > > > > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > Srirangasri- > > > > Terms of >Service. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2003 Report Share Posted April 25, 2003 Dear Sir, You raise a point I have heard many times before (although in different contexts). I had a question then as I do now: Does this mean, "There are many gods and they are all are not equal"? Also, wouldn't it be then redundant to pray to Lord Vinayaka before reciting either Vishnu Sahasaranamam or Kanakadhara Stotram? I would really appreciate any answer you might have or any pointers you might have that I can follow that might help me understand Vaishnavism better. Siva. Vasan Sriranga Chari [vasan_chari_hk] Thursday, April 24, 2003 2:48 AM Nagraj Cc: 'Malolan Cadambi'; ; ramanuja; bhakti-list; sukumar Re: Re: RE: Re: need clarification. Jai Ramanuja, Thanks for asking this question.The scriptures (saatvik)mension LORD SRIMAN NARAYANA as the supreme reality to whom seekers of salvation must surrender.In GITA too Bhagvan says that those worshipping other gods reach them while those worshipping me attain me from where there is no return.Though the efforts are same ,people for sake of minor & perishing fruits approach other gods while I am ready to give eternal fruits.Even ADI SHANKARACHARYA in his gita bhashya has commented thus.Hence srivaishnavas who seek salvation worship only Bhagvan with one mind.(ananya,which is mentioned in places in GITA).This is a brief answer.There are books written on it.Pl. read ADI SHANKARA'S GITA COMMENTARY. dasan 9minor) , 22 Apr 2003 Nagraj wrote : >Dear All > >Even i requried some clarification,Infact i have asked several >time >these question but none of them have replied. >Do Iyengar worship lord Ganesha,But lot of them say no pl let >me >know what wrong in worshiping Lord ganesh/Vinayaka. > >Kindly do replay > >nagaraj > > - > Vasan Sriranga Chari > sukumar > Cc: 'Malolan Cadambi' ; ; >ramanuja ; bhakti-list > Tuesday, April 22, 2003 5:22 PM > Re: RE: Re: need clarification. > > > > Jai Ramanuja, > Haya means horse ,greeva means neck.So may be the lord whose >face > was like a horse is called HAYAGREEVA.(HAYAVADANA) > DASAN > On Sat, 19 Apr 2003 sukumar wrote : > >Sri Krishnaya Namah! > > > >Dear Bhaktas, > > > >I would appreciate if you could let me know > > > >the meaning of the word - Hayagriva. > > > >the above is necessitated as, we used to prepare a >delicious > >dish called > >by the same name and offer it to the Lord and the Lord has >also > >been called > >by the same name - Hayagriva. Is Sri Madhvacharya offered >to > >Lord > >Hayagriva, a dish which then called by the same name once > >consumed by the > >Lord. > > > >Humble Pranams! > > > >Sukumar > > > > > >Sri Krishnaparabrahmane Namah! > > > > > > Malolan Cadambi [sMTP:mcadambi] > > 16/04/2003 10:21 AM > > > > Re: need clarification. > > > >Sri > >Srimathe Ramanujaya Namaha > > > > > Hello all,I have two doubts.1)Is Balarama an avatharam >of > > > Mahavishnu or is he a an amsam of Adishesan? > > > >Please see: > > >http://www.ramanuja.org/sv/bhakti/archives/may2000/0123.html > > > > >2) What about Hayagrivar? Isn't he an avatharam of >Mahavishnu > >too? > > >Why are we not including him in the Dasavatharam? > > > >http://www.ramanuja.org/sv/bhakti/archives/mar99/0068.html > > > >There are about 22 or more avataram-s of the Lord. The DasA > >avatArams > >are the most prominent. > > > >Regards, > > > >Malolan Cadambi --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.417 / Virus Database: 233 - Release 11/7/2002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2003 Report Share Posted April 25, 2003 When Narayana says I am everything. I am in everything. How does Ganesha become different for Narayana himself. For those who seek the eternity, the supreme power with a pure mind and genuine bakthi, he will show himself to the baktha in every form in every jeevan. It is all perspective. - Madhu >"Vasan Sriranga Chari" <vasan_chari_hk >"Vasan Sriranga Chari" <vasan_chari_hk >"Nagraj" <g_nagraj >CC: "'Malolan Cadambi'" <mcadambi, , >ramanuja, "bhakti-list" <bhakti-list>, >"sukumar" <sukumar >Re: Re: RE: Re: need clarification. >24 Apr 2003 06:48:01 -0000 > >Jai Ramanuja, >Thanks for asking this question.The scriptures (saatvik)mension >LORD SRIMAN NARAYANA as the supreme reality to whom seekers of >salvation must surrender.In GITA too Bhagvan says that those >worshipping other gods reach them while those worshipping me >attain me from where there is no return.Though the efforts are >same ,people for sake of minor & perishing fruits approach other >gods while I am ready to give eternal fruits.Even ADI >SHANKARACHARYA in his gita bhashya has commented thus.Hence >srivaishnavas who seek salvation worship only Bhagvan with one >mind.(ananya,which is mentioned in places in GITA).This is a brief >answer.There are books written on it.Pl. read ADI SHANKARA'S GITA >COMMENTARY. >dasan >9minor) >, 22 Apr 2003 Nagraj wrote : > >Dear All > > > >Even i requried some clarification,Infact i have asked several > >time > >these question but none of them have replied. > >Do Iyengar worship lord Ganesha,But lot of them say no pl let > >me > >know what wrong in worshiping Lord ganesh/Vinayaka. > > > >Kindly do replay > > > >nagaraj > > > > - > > Vasan Sriranga Chari > > sukumar > > Cc: 'Malolan Cadambi' ; ; > >ramanuja ; bhakti-list > > Tuesday, April 22, 2003 5:22 PM > > Re: RE: Re: need clarification. > > > > > > > > Jai Ramanuja, > > Haya means horse ,greeva means neck.So may be the lord whose > >face > > was like a horse is called HAYAGREEVA.(HAYAVADANA) > > DASAN > > On Sat, 19 Apr 2003 sukumar wrote : > > >Sri Krishnaya Namah! > > > > > >Dear Bhaktas, > > > > > >I would appreciate if you could let me know > > > > > >the meaning of the word - Hayagriva. > > > > > >the above is necessitated as, we used to prepare a > >delicious > > >dish called > > >by the same name and offer it to the Lord and the Lord has > >also > > >been called > > >by the same name - Hayagriva. Is Sri Madhvacharya offered > >to > > >Lord > > >Hayagriva, a dish which then called by the same name once > > >consumed by the > > >Lord. > > > > > >Humble Pranams! > > > > > >Sukumar > > > > > > > > >Sri Krishnaparabrahmane Namah! > > > > > > > > > Malolan Cadambi [sMTP:mcadambi] > > > 16/04/2003 10:21 AM > > > > > > Re: need clarification. > > > > > >Sri > > >Srimathe Ramanujaya Namaha > > > > > > > Hello all,I have two doubts.1)Is Balarama an avatharam > >of > > > > Mahavishnu or is he a an amsam of Adishesan? > > > > > >Please see: > > > > >http://www.ramanuja.org/sv/bhakti/archives/may2000/0123.html > > > > > > >2) What about Hayagrivar? Isn't he an avatharam of > >Mahavishnu > > >too? > > > >Why are we not including him in the Dasavatharam? > > > > > >http://www.ramanuja.org/sv/bhakti/archives/mar99/0068.html > > > > > >There are about 22 or more avataram-s of the Lord. The DasA > > >avatArams > > >are the most prominent. > > > > > >Regards, > > > > > >Malolan Cadambi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Srirangasri- > > > > > > > > > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------ Sponsor > > > > > > > > >Srirangasri- > > > > > > > > > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Srirangasri- > > > > > > > > Terms of > >Service. > > > > > > _______________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2003 Report Share Posted April 25, 2003 JAI Sriman Narayana! Asmath Gurubhyo Namaha Vaishnavites generally pray to Sri Vishvaksena to remove the obstacles. Vishvaksena is the head of the army in Sri Vaikuntam and is the chief of the army for the Leela Vibhuthi (this temepraory aboard consisting of numerous universies) and Nithy Vibhoothi (permanent abode). Vinayaka is the chief of the army in the devaloka and our universe. Consequently, it is siad that there are numerous Vinayakas in the army of Sri Vishvaksena. Both are above us and are vandaniyas. However, as Sri vaishnavas, we pray to Sri Vishvaksena for any obstacle removal. It is up to you whether you want to approach the local S.P. or the I.G.P. For those who do not know the IGP, they may approach the SP. However, thos who know the IGP prefer to appraoch the IGP directly. I hope, I have answered your question. Please let me know if you have more questions or comments. With all Glories to Lord Sri Venkateshvara, I remain, Sincerely Narender Reddy --- Bhaktan <bhaktan wrote: > Dear Sir, > > You raise a point I have heard many times before > (although in different > contexts). I had a question then as I do now: > Does this mean, "There are many gods and they are > all are not equal"? > Also, wouldn't it be then redundant to pray to Lord > Vinayaka before reciting > either Vishnu Sahasaranamam or Kanakadhara Stotram? > > I would really appreciate any answer you might have > or any pointers you > might have that I can follow that might help me > understand Vaishnavism > better. > > Siva. > > > Vasan Sriranga Chari > [vasan_chari_hk] > Thursday, April 24, 2003 2:48 AM > Nagraj > Cc: 'Malolan Cadambi'; ; > ramanuja; bhakti-list; sukumar > Re: Re: RE: Re: need > clarification. > > Jai Ramanuja, > Thanks for asking this question.The scriptures > (saatvik)mension > LORD SRIMAN NARAYANA as the supreme reality to whom > seekers of > salvation must surrender.In GITA too Bhagvan says > that those > worshipping other gods reach them while those > worshipping me > attain me from where there is no return.Though the > efforts are > same ,people for sake of minor & perishing fruits > approach other > gods while I am ready to give eternal fruits.Even > ADI > SHANKARACHARYA in his gita bhashya has commented > thus.Hence > srivaishnavas who seek salvation worship only > Bhagvan with one > mind.(ananya,which is mentioned in places in > GITA).This is a brief > answer.There are books written on it.Pl. read ADI > SHANKARA'S GITA > COMMENTARY. > dasan > 9minor) > , 22 Apr 2003 Nagraj wrote : > >Dear All > > > >Even i requried some clarification,Infact i have > asked several > >time > >these question but none of them have replied. > >Do Iyengar worship lord Ganesha,But lot of them say > no pl let > >me > >know what wrong in worshiping Lord ganesh/Vinayaka. > > > >Kindly do replay > > > >nagaraj > > > > - > > Vasan Sriranga Chari > > sukumar > > Cc: 'Malolan Cadambi' ; > ; > >ramanuja ; bhakti-list > > Tuesday, April 22, 2003 5:22 PM > > Re: RE: Re: need > clarification. > > > > > > > > Jai Ramanuja, > > Haya means horse ,greeva means neck.So may be > the lord whose > >face > > was like a horse is called > HAYAGREEVA.(HAYAVADANA) > > DASAN > > On Sat, 19 Apr 2003 sukumar wrote : > > >Sri Krishnaya Namah! > > > > > >Dear Bhaktas, > > > > > >I would appreciate if you could let me know > > > > > >the meaning of the word - Hayagriva. > > > > > >the above is necessitated as, we used to > prepare a > >delicious > > >dish called > > >by the same name and offer it to the Lord and > the Lord has > >also > > >been called > > >by the same name - Hayagriva. Is Sri > Madhvacharya offered > >to > > >Lord > > >Hayagriva, a dish which then called by the same > name once > > >consumed by the > > >Lord. > > > > > >Humble Pranams! > > > > > >Sukumar > > > > > > > > >Sri Krishnaparabrahmane Namah! > > > > > > > > > Malolan Cadambi > [sMTP:mcadambi] > > > 16/04/2003 10:21 AM > > > > > > Re: need > clarification. > > > > > >Sri > > >Srimathe Ramanujaya Namaha > > > > > > > Hello all,I have two doubts.1)Is Balarama an > avatharam > >of > > > > Mahavishnu or is he a an amsam of Adishesan? > > > > > >Please see: > > > > > >http://www.ramanuja.org/sv/bhakti/archives/may2000/0123.html > > > > > > >2) What about Hayagrivar? Isn't he an > avatharam of > >Mahavishnu > > >too? > > > >Why are we not including him in the > Dasavatharam? > > > > > > >http://www.ramanuja.org/sv/bhakti/archives/mar99/0068.html > > > > > >There are about 22 or more avataram-s of the > Lord. The DasA > > >avatArams > > >are the most prominent. > > > > > >Regards, > > > > > >Malolan Cadambi > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system > (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.417 / Virus Database: 233 - Release > 11/7/2002 > > > > > ------------------------ Sponsor > > > Srirangasri- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo http://search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2003 Report Share Posted April 25, 2003 Dear Siva If we understand or agree upon a definition of GOD then many questions can be answered. I have accepted a simple definition of GOD as follows: GOD is all things infinite and in every dimension we may think of. Having said that there can only be one god. There is support for this in upanishads and there is no higher truth than Upanishads. This god principle is also absolute, in that like speed of light it never changes from any perspective. In all frames of references HE is same. Infinitely merciful if I demonstrate anything like Prahalada. HE is also infinitely unforgiving if I behave like Hiranyakasipu. lest my words are mistaken HE does not imply any gender to this GOD. Like Swamy Nammazwar says GOD is IT, HE and SHE. Now we may call or refer to this GOD in any number of ways. As long as we invoke that one GOD regardless of the names we use, HE will bless us. My favorite name for this GOD is Sriman Narayana. This name brings me a lot of joy, calm and happiness. Find that name that brings you joy, happiness and a sense of purpose. How to experience is this GOD. Swamy Nammazwar again clarifies this, if we approach HIM, HE will approach us. If we run away from HIM, HE will run away from us. Swamy Nammazwar says " anugin anugum akalin akalum ". So start developing a taste for HIM and soon you will experience HIM. PAST has no bearing. Start today. procedures, rituals, prescriptions are all secondary to your love for GOD. We can find copious examples of this Azwar life histories. Self Surrender is the best principle in approaching GOD. Because HE is infinite in all dimensions, and we are finite, we can only influence HIM by surrendering without any expectation. All of this is clearly explained in GITA. Adi Sankara, the foremost Narayana devotee, clearly says read a little bit of GITA in Baja Govindam. There is no higher truth or experience than Govinda. There is no difference between Govinda or any other name you choose. All names imply Govinda and Govinda alone. When our mind is focused on Govinda, then our mind will not hear, see or feel anything but Govinda. this is what we all should seek! here again Azwar Nammazwar has "Unnum Sorum, parugum neerum ellam Kannan" Seek those things in life that help you in seeking Govinda more. Stay away from things that distract you from Govinda. if you wish to find Govinda, start with MathuraKavi Azwars work and enjoying his works set your elevated mind on to Nammazwar. All your wants will be fullfilled. the road to Govinda is a slippery one. Therefore we need a guide. A guide who will forgive and forget our misgivings and help us. If you cannot find an Acharyan, then take to seek Swamy Nammazwar. He will and HE can accept all of us provided we can meditate upon Swamy Nammazwar. In my limited life I find nothing more inspiring or lifting or truthful than the above. I surrender! Swamy Nammazwar thiruvadigale saranam. adiyen anandavalli dasan --- Bhaktan <bhaktan wrote: > Dear Sir, > > You raise a point I have heard many times before > (although in different > contexts). I had a question then as I do now: > Does this mean, "There are many gods and they are > all are not equal"? > Also, wouldn't it be then redundant to pray to Lord > Vinayaka before reciting > either Vishnu Sahasaranamam or Kanakadhara Stotram? > > I would really appreciate any answer you might have > or any pointers you > might have that I can follow that might help me > understand Vaishnavism > better. > > Siva. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2003 Report Share Posted April 26, 2003 Sri Krishna is the only supreme personality of God head since He is PoornaAvatara. Krishnathu Bhagawan Swayam.. Worshipping Sri Krishna we will get Mukti or Moksha according to their desire. By worshipping all other Gods we will get our material desires fulfilled. But we should understand that desire is the cause of all sorrows. - "Raman Kannan" <rrfamily <bhaktan Cc: <> Saturday, April 26, 2003 4:10 AM RE: Re: RE: Re: need clarification. > Dear Siva > > If we understand or agree upon a definition of GOD > then many questions can be answered. I have accepted > a simple definition of GOD as follows: > GOD is all things infinite and in every dimension we > may think of. > Having said that there can only be one god. > There is support for this in upanishads and there is > no > higher truth than Upanishads. > This god principle is also absolute, in that like > speed of light it never changes from any perspective. > In all frames of references HE is same. Infinitely > merciful if I demonstrate anything like Prahalada. > HE is also infinitely unforgiving if > I behave like Hiranyakasipu. > lest my words are mistaken HE does not imply any > gender to this GOD. > Like Swamy Nammazwar says GOD is IT, HE and SHE. > > Now we may call or refer to this GOD in any number > of ways. As long as we invoke that one GOD regardless > of the names we use, HE will bless us. > My favorite name for this GOD is Sriman Narayana. > This name brings me a lot of joy, calm and happiness. > Find that name that brings you joy, happiness > and a sense of purpose. > > How to experience is this GOD. Swamy Nammazwar > again clarifies this, if we approach HIM, HE will > approach us. If we run away from HIM, HE will > run away from us. Swamy Nammazwar says > " anugin anugum akalin akalum ". > So start developing a taste for > HIM and soon you will experience HIM. > > PAST has no bearing. Start today. > procedures, rituals, prescriptions are all secondary > to your love for GOD. We can find copious examples > of this Azwar life histories. > > Self Surrender is the best principle in approaching > GOD. Because HE is infinite in all dimensions, > and we are finite, we can only influence HIM by > surrendering without any expectation. All of this > is clearly explained in GITA. > > Adi Sankara, the foremost Narayana devotee, clearly > says read a little bit of GITA in Baja Govindam. > > There is no higher truth or experience than Govinda. > There is no difference between Govinda or any other > name you choose. All names imply Govinda and Govinda > alone. > > When our mind is focused on Govinda, then our mind > will not hear, see or feel anything but Govinda. > this is what we all should seek! > here again Azwar Nammazwar has "Unnum Sorum, parugum > neerum ellam Kannan" > > Seek those things in life that help you in seeking > Govinda more. Stay away from things that distract > you from Govinda. > > if you wish to find Govinda, start with MathuraKavi > Azwars work and enjoying his works set your elevated > mind on to Nammazwar. All your wants will be > fullfilled. > the road to Govinda is a slippery one. Therefore we > need a guide. A guide who will forgive and forget > our misgivings and help us. > If you cannot find an Acharyan, then take to > seek Swamy Nammazwar. He will and HE can accept all of > us provided we can meditate upon Swamy Nammazwar. > > In my limited life I find nothing more inspiring > or lifting or truthful than the above. > I surrender! > Swamy Nammazwar thiruvadigale saranam. > adiyen > anandavalli dasan > --- Bhaktan <bhaktan wrote: > > Dear Sir, > > > > You raise a point I have heard many times before > > (although in different > > contexts). I had a question then as I do now: > > Does this mean, "There are many gods and they are > > all are not equal"? > > Also, wouldn't it be then redundant to pray to Lord > > Vinayaka before reciting > > either Vishnu Sahasaranamam or Kanakadhara Stotram? > > > > I would really appreciate any answer you might have > > or any pointers you > > might have that I can follow that might help me > > understand Vaishnavism > > better. > > > > Siva. > > > > > Srirangasri- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2003 Report Share Posted April 26, 2003 Jai Ramanuja, The VED says AGNI DEVANAAM AVAMAHA ,VISHNU PARAMAHA.Hence there is gradation in the deva group.But VISHNU being omnipresent ,He is antaryami of everything from Brahma to ant to inanimate beings.Vishnu alone is the supreme reality (ved says NARAYANA PARAM BRAHMA)& all others are jivas which are graded from ants to gods. Sri Krishna says that everything is His VIBHUTI(GLORY).One can see everything as GOD in this aspect that HE IS PERVADING & CONTROLLING EVERYTHING.All the so called gods derive power from Lord Vishnu(again this is from Gita).So we vaishnavas worship Lord VISHNU alone who is the supreme reality & HIS DEVOTEES .We have respect for all other gods as they are His vibhutis.The RELATION between a PRAPANNA(ONE WHO HAS SURRENDERED TO LORD)& his SWAMI is similar to a pativrata & her husband.She serves only her husband as a wife & has only respect for other males.She gets all her needs fulfilled by her husband alone.Similarly a Prapanna sri vaishnava worships LORD NARAYANA alone though he shows respect to others. dasan On Fri, 25 Apr 2003 Bhaktan wrote : >Dear Sir, > >You raise a point I have heard many times before (although in >different >contexts). I had a question then as I do now: >Does this mean, "There are many gods and they are all are not >equal"? >Also, wouldn't it be then redundant to pray to Lord Vinayaka >before reciting >either Vishnu Sahasaranamam or Kanakadhara Stotram? > >I would really appreciate any answer you might have or any >pointers you >might have that I can follow that might help me understand >Vaishnavism >better. > >Siva. > > > Vasan Sriranga Chari >[vasan_chari_hk] >Thursday, April 24, 2003 2:48 AM >Nagraj >Cc: 'Malolan Cadambi'; ; >ramanuja; bhakti-list; sukumar >Re: Re: RE: Re: need clarification. > >Jai Ramanuja, >Thanks for asking this question.The scriptures (saatvik)mension >LORD SRIMAN NARAYANA as the supreme reality to whom seekers of >salvation must surrender.In GITA too Bhagvan says that those >worshipping other gods reach them while those worshipping me >attain me from where there is no return.Though the efforts are >same ,people for sake of minor & perishing fruits approach >other >gods while I am ready to give eternal fruits.Even ADI >SHANKARACHARYA in his gita bhashya has commented thus.Hence >srivaishnavas who seek salvation worship only Bhagvan with one >mind.(ananya,which is mentioned in places in GITA).This is a >brief >answer.There are books written on it.Pl. read ADI SHANKARA'S >GITA >COMMENTARY. >dasan >9minor) >, 22 Apr 2003 Nagraj wrote : > >Dear All > > > >Even i requried some clarification,Infact i have asked >several > >time > >these question but none of them have replied. > >Do Iyengar worship lord Ganesha,But lot of them say no pl let > >me > >know what wrong in worshiping Lord ganesh/Vinayaka. > > > >Kindly do replay > > > >nagaraj > > > > - > > Vasan Sriranga Chari > > sukumar > > Cc: 'Malolan Cadambi' ; ; > >ramanuja ; bhakti-list > > Tuesday, April 22, 2003 5:22 PM > > Re: RE: Re: need clarification. > > > > > > > > Jai Ramanuja, > > Haya means horse ,greeva means neck.So may be the lord >whose > >face > > was like a horse is called HAYAGREEVA.(HAYAVADANA) > > DASAN > > On Sat, 19 Apr 2003 sukumar wrote : > > >Sri Krishnaya Namah! > > > > > >Dear Bhaktas, > > > > > >I would appreciate if you could let me know > > > > > >the meaning of the word - Hayagriva. > > > > > >the above is necessitated as, we used to prepare a > >delicious > > >dish called > > >by the same name and offer it to the Lord and the Lord >has > >also > > >been called > > >by the same name - Hayagriva. Is Sri Madhvacharya >offered > >to > > >Lord > > >Hayagriva, a dish which then called by the same name once > > >consumed by the > > >Lord. > > > > > >Humble Pranams! > > > > > >Sukumar > > > > > > > > >Sri Krishnaparabrahmane Namah! > > > > > > > > > Malolan Cadambi [sMTP:mcadambi] > > > 16/04/2003 10:21 AM > > > > > > Re: need clarification. > > > > > >Sri > > >Srimathe Ramanujaya Namaha > > > > > > > Hello all,I have two doubts.1)Is Balarama an avatharam > >of > > > > Mahavishnu or is he a an amsam of Adishesan? > > > > > >Please see: > > > > > >http://www.ramanuja.org/sv/bhakti/archives/may2000/0123.html > > > > > > >2) What about Hayagrivar? Isn't he an avatharam of > >Mahavishnu > > >too? > > > >Why are we not including him in the Dasavatharam? > > > > > > >http://www.ramanuja.org/sv/bhakti/archives/mar99/0068.html > > > > > >There are about 22 or more avataram-s of the Lord. The >DasA > > >avatArams > > >are the most prominent. > > > > > >Regards, > > > > > >Malolan Cadambi > >--- >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.417 / Virus Database: 233 - Release Date: >11/7/2002 > > > > >------------------------ Sponsor > > >Srirangasri- > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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