a few basic questions regarding sri vaishnavam

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SrImate rAmAnujAya nama:

SrImate nigamAntamahAdeSikAya nama:

 

dear SrI vaishnavAs,

 

i am aparyAptAmrta dAsan. i have very recently joined

the SrIrangaSrI group. i have a few basic questions to

shoot.

 

1. can ashtAnga yoga (as explained by pAtAnjali in his

yoga sUtrAs) be practised by a prapannan, just as

Bagavat prEtyartam ? is this the same as what our

AcAryan SrI nAtamuni practised?

 

2. what is the amount of svAtantryam for a jEvAtmA ?

 

3. does the vishishtAdvaita philosophy accept the

existence of nirguna brahmam ? if not, how can the

direct experiences of the advaitins be explained?

 

i would be extremely grateful to you if you can attach

the actual explanations given by our AcAryAs (if any)

to the above small doubts of adiyEn.

 

i wish all the SrI vaishnavAs a very happy SrI

rAmAnuja thirunakshtram celebration(which happens to

fall on may 6, this year)

 

dasAn,

aparyAptAmrtan.

 

 

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dear Amuthan sir,

i wish to answer ur questions.

the present day ashtangayoga is not decended from nathamuni as it is clear from

guruparampara that Alavandar failed to collect it from Manakkal nambi. so better

to avoid the yogam of nawadays

 

jeevas svatantryam is always contolled by the karma

 

according to visishtaadvaita no nirguna bhramman is accepted nad we dont accept

advitins experience as a real one

 

dasan

kaasyapah

 

Amuthan Arunkumar <aparyap wrote:SrImate rAmAnujAya nama:

SrImate nigamAntamahAdeSikAya nama:

 

dear SrI vaishnavAs,

 

i am aparyAptAmrta dAsan. i have very recently joined

the SrIrangaSrI group. i have a few basic questions to

shoot.

 

1. can ashtAnga yoga (as explained by pAtAnjali in his

yoga sUtrAs) be practised by a prapannan, just as

Bagavat prEtyartam ? is this the same as what our

AcAryan SrI nAtamuni practised?

 

2. what is the amount of svAtantryam for a jEvAtmA ?

 

3. does the vishishtAdvaita philosophy accept the

existence of nirguna brahmam ? if not, how can the

direct experiences of the advaitins be explained?

 

i would be extremely grateful to you if you can attach

the actual explanations given by our AcAryAs (if any)

to the above small doubts of adiyEn.

 

i wish all the SrI vaishnavAs a very happy SrI

rAmAnuja thirunakshtram celebration(which happens to

fall on may 6, this year)

 

dasAn,

aparyAptAmrtan.

 

 

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[Guest guest]

> 1. can ashtAnga yoga (as explained by pAtAnjali in his

> yoga sUtrAs) be practised by a prapannan, just as

> Bagavat prEtyartam ? is this the same as what our

> AcAryan SrI nAtamuni practised?

 

HH Sri Sri Rangapriya Mahadesikan, a vadakalai acharyar in Bangalore is the

pEthAdipathi of Ashtanga Yoga Vignana Mandiram. You might wish to contact

him. Sri Sri Rangapriya Swami is one of the 5 acharyas who are living links

to our timeless tradition.

 

Regards,

 

Malolan Cadambi

[Guest guest]

, vedanta desikan

<kavitaarkikasimhan> wrote:

> dear Amuthan sir,

> i wish to answer ur questions.

> the present day ashtangayoga is not decended from nathamuni as it

is clear from guruparampara that Alavandar failed to collect it from

Manakkal nambi. so better to avoid the yogam of nawadays

 

 

After Sriman Nathamuni only Thiru Kurugai Kavalappan

had the knowledge of Ashtangayoga required for the

performance of Bhakti Yoga. The last person known

to have performed this yoga in this yuga is this saint.

The story of Sri Alavandhar meeting Sri Kavalappan

is a fascinating one.

 

Sri Manakkal Nambi sent Sri Alavandhar to Kavalappan

to study the yoga. When he arrived, Kavalappan was

in deep meditation with Bhagavat Sakshatkaram (direct

vision). Suddenly he (Sri Kavalappan) woke up and

asked whether there was any descendent of "sottai

kulam" present in the vicinity. Alavandhar being one

answered, "adiyEn". And, he enquired how Sri Kavalappan

guessed his presence. For this Sri Kavalappan explained

that during his meditations Sriman Narayana's attention

is never distracted by anything. But on this occasion

Sriman Narayana was not paying attention to Kavalappan.

In stead, Sriman Narayana was moving about and trying to

take a peak behind Kavalappan. This could happen only

if a descendent of Sriman Nathamunigal was present behind

him. After this brief encounter Sri Kavalappan sent

Sri Alavandhar away with a promise to teach the yoga

at an appropriate time. Fortunately or unfortunately

this did not come to pass. We now have only one sure

way for mOksham in practice, namely, prapatti.

 

 

>

> jeevas svatantryam is always contolled by the karma

 

 

Jeevan's actions are controlled by five factors. Among

them are poorva karma, Bhagavat sankalpam, and jIvan's

own sankalpam.

 

 

 

> according to visishtaadvaita no nirguna bhramman is accepted nad

we dont accept advitins experience as a real one

 

 

Even advaitin's would not accept their own experience

as ultimately real!!! There is a funny story about

this. A group of Advaitins with their Acarya were

passing through a jungle. Suddenly a big elephant

appeared full of rage. Everyone including the teacher

ran in all directions trying to save themselves. After

the danger had passed they regrouped. Then, one

precocious pupil asked the teacher, "It is understandable

that we ran as we have not mastered advaitam, but you

the teacher surely knew the elephant was not real. Why

did you also run from the elephant?" For this the teacher

calmly answered, "Well, the elephant was unreal and me

running for my life was also unreal!"

 

-- Dileepan

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Dear sirs

 

In Gita references are made by Lord as " Avyaktha" in chapter 12 is this

not nirgun brahman

 

Kindly clarify'

VKV

-

"vedanta desikan" <kavitaarkikasimhan

"Amuthan Arunkumar" <aparyap

Cc: <>

Friday, May 02, 2003 4:24 PM

Re: a few basic questions regarding sri vaishnavam

 

 

> dear Amuthan sir,

> i wish to answer ur questions.

> the present day ashtangayoga is not decended from nathamuni as it is clear

from guruparampara that Alavandar failed to collect it from Manakkal nambi.

so better to avoid the yogam of nawadays

>

> jeevas svatantryam is always contolled by the karma

>

> according to visishtaadvaita no nirguna bhramman is accepted nad we dont

accept advitins experience as a real one

>

> dasan

> kaasyapah

>

> Amuthan Arunkumar <aparyap wrote:SrImate rAmAnujAya nama:

> SrImate nigamAntamahAdeSikAya nama:

>

> dear SrI vaishnavAs,

>

> i am aparyAptAmrta dAsan. i have very recently joined

> the SrIrangaSrI group. i have a few basic questions to

> shoot.

>

> 1. can ashtAnga yoga (as explained by pAtAnjali in his

> yoga sUtrAs) be practised by a prapannan, just as

> Bagavat prEtyartam ? is this the same as what our

> AcAryan SrI nAtamuni practised?

>

> 2. what is the amount of svAtantryam for a jEvAtmA ?

>

> 3. does the vishishtAdvaita philosophy accept the

> existence of nirguna brahmam ? if not, how can the

> direct experiences of the advaitins be explained?

>

> i would be extremely grateful to you if you can attach

> the actual explanations given by our AcAryAs (if any)

> to the above small doubts of adiyEn.

>

> i wish all the SrI vaishnavAs a very happy SrI

> rAmAnuja thirunakshtram celebration(which happens to

> fall on may 6, this year)

>

> dasAn,

> aparyAptAmrtan.

>

>

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Dear Lakshmi narasimhanand sri vaishnavas I beg ur pardon for giving you a

wrong information.mr lakshminarasimhan is quite right that Sri Alavandar failed

to collect Yoga system frm thirukkurugai kavalaappn and not frm Manakkal

Nambi.Thank u for correcting me. mr diliipan has given a good reply for this

mail. plz refer it. I conclude beegging ur pardon and with famous quation from

Ramayana "na kaschit naa paradyati"DasanKaasyapah

 

LakshmiNarasimhan SrinivasaRaghavan <lsriniva wrote:Dear Sri.

Vedanta Desikan

 

Adiyen believes that our Sri. Alavandar did not collect the yogic

experiences from Sri. ThirukurugaiKavalappan and not Sri. Manakkal Nambi.

Adiyen also believes that this could be the reason ThirukurgaiKavalappan is

not in our guruparamparai though we hold him in high esteem.

 

Please correct me if I am wrong.

 

Adiyen Ramanuja Dasan

Lakshminarasimhan S.

 

 

 

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Srimathe Lakshminrusimha divya pAduka sevika

srivan satakopa Sri Narayana Yathindra MahadesikAya Namaha

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>vedanta desikan

>Amuthan Arunkumar

>CC:

>Re: a few basic questions regarding sri vaishnavam

>Fri, 2 May 2003 14:24:17 +0100 (BST)

>

>dear Amuthan sir,

>i wish to answer ur questions.

>the present day ashtangayoga is not decended from nathamuni as it is clear

>from guruparampara that Alavandar failed to collect it from Manakkal nambi.

>so better to avoid the yogam of nawadays

>

>jeevas svatantryam is always contolled by the karma

>

>according to visishtaadvaita no nirguna bhramman is accepted nad we dont

>accept advitins experience as a real one

>

>dasan

>kaasyapah

>

> Amuthan Arunkumar wrote:SrImate rAmAnujAya nama:

>SrImate nigamAntamahAdeSikAya nama:

>

>dear SrI vaishnavAs,

>

>i am aparyAptAmrta dAsan. i have very recently joined

>the SrIrangaSrI group. i have a few basic questions to

>shoot.

>

>1. can ashtAnga yoga (as explained by pAtAnjali in his

>yoga sUtrAs) be practised by a prapannan, just as

>Bagavat prEtyartam ? is this the same as what our

>AcAryan SrI nAtamuni practised?

>

>2. what is the amount of svAtantryam for a jEvAtmA ?

>

>3. does the vishishtAdvaita philosophy accept the

>existence of nirguna brahmam ? if not, how can the

>direct experiences of the advaitins be explained?

>

>i would be extremely grateful to you if you can attach

>the actual explanations given by our AcAryAs (if any)

>to the above small doubts of adiyEn.

>

>i wish all the SrI vaishnavAs a very happy SrI

>rAmAnuja thirunakshtram celebration(which happens to

>fall on may 6, this year)

>

>dasAn,

>aparyAptAmrtan.

>

>

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