Fw: Mind enemy or friend

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M.P.Bhattathiry

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Cc: Anju N K

Wednesday, May 28, 2003 10:19 AM

Mind enemy or friend

 

 

Bhagavad-gita [Ch.6] Text 6- Sankhya-Yoga

 

 

Sankhya-Yoga

TEXT 6

 

bandhur atmatmanas tasya

yenatmaivatmana jitah

anatmanas tu satrutve

vartetatmaiva satruvat

 

bandhur -friend; atma-mind; atmanah-of the living entity; tasya-of

him; yena-by whom; atma-mind; eva-certainly; atmana-by the living

entity: jitah-conquered; anatmanah-of one who has failed to control

the mind: tu-but; satruvat-because of enmity; varteta-remains; atma

eva- the very mind; satruvat-as an enemy.

 

TRANSLATION

 

For him who has conquered the mind, the mind is the best of friends;

but for one who has failed to do so, his very mind will be the

greatest enemy.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear sir

 

I don't know if any discussions are welcome on this issue?

But just share my limited knowledge -

1.Mind can be controlled by mind only

2.Sometimes out of sight is out of mind- like only when we see mangoes

during summer our craving starts.

3.Satvic food etc , breathing practices; pranayamam checks velocity of mind

4. Actually we have to welcome certain enemies like vairagya, sense control

etc which will later on become good friends of our mind. Once bigger enemy

comes the weaker ones like kama, krodha etc automatically walks out.

In such a company only we can expect the Lord to take permanent seat.

 

Learned people call it like " Sama" and " Dama"

Definitely I am not the right candidate to dwell on this mysterious topic.

In hindi they say man jite jag jitey. People say it is difficult but not

impossible.

 

Srimate Ramanujaya Namah

Srimate Vedanta Gurave Namah

Sri Satakopa Ramanuja Yathindra Mahadesikaya Namah

 

Vijayaraghavan V K

[Guest guest]

Sri Krishnaya Namah!

 

As Sri Krishna says in BG, the mind can be our friend or the foe, depending

on our usage.

 

It would be better, if the bhagavathas in this forum express their

methodology adopted to control wavering mind. Life styles differ for each

one of us but we are bound by the same external influences whether in

office or in home and it is our foremost duty to first train and control

mind.

 

To controls ones mind is very difficult, that too in this age where

money/power plays a key role. Some of the normal things, that we can do in

our daily life would be to --

 

1. Takeout the cable connection out of our tv sets and hear only bhajans

and kirtans of Lord

or

View only Aastha or Sanskar channels for productive usage of time

 

2. Keep busy during idle times in reading epics and sutras

 

3. Take only sathvik food to enable sound sleep and sound thoughts

 

3. Have a strict regimen in the morning hours by waking up early to do

naimithika karma and yoga with pranayam. Pranayam is a wonderful in

combating wavering mind. If done in padmasana for 1/2 hour (max.) this

will do wonders, while asanas help in allowing sound thoughts and ensuring

sound health.

 

4. Mix with people who are having similar thoughts like us, i.e.,

bhagavathas. Otherwise, we may end up in idle chat involving passing of

snide remarks/jokes on someone, indulging in paraninda etc.

 

5. Complete control on food & drinks. Abstain completely from outside

food. Sathvik food devoid of onions/garlic are the best bet. Infact, this

has to be ingrained in our household that food plays a role in forming our

mindset. If we have a habit of hearing discourses on BG (because this

only has all the answers that one has in this world), we can learn a lesson

or two. I used to hear discourses on BG by Sri.Asaramji, Sri Parma Row,

Sri Parthasarathy etc., on Sanskar/Aastha channel. The way they mention on

combating desires (like food, sexual thoughts etc.,) is noteworthy. If we

have a innate ability to grasp the finer points, and if we don't have

access to Vedas and literatures of Alwars, this is the better way.

 

6. Nama japam is the most effective way to keep our mind busy and focussed.

 

7. If possible move away from city life and welcome secluded village life.

 

8. Be a loner and enjoy the silence that dawns on you. Refer Sri Sri's

discourses on Silence. Introspect the days happening and think bad for the

bad things that might have happened knowingly/unknowingly, Because sins

once committed takes many lifes to come out it.

 

9. Before all the above, we should first analyse ourselves as to which

group we belong - sathvik, rajasik or tamasik and then strive and get

ourselves upgraded with His krupa. We should have to do our bit and choose

our path, before seeking blessings from Him. Once we acquire knowledge and

wisdom, bhakti grows.

 

 

These are what my thoughts and I apologise if I sound naive.

 

 

Sukumar

 

Sri Krishnaparabrahmane Namah!

 

 

Vijay-AW [sMTP:vijayalu]

29/05/2003 7:36 PM

M.P.Bhattathiry;

Re: Fw: Mind enemy or friend

 

Dear sir

 

I don't know if any discussions are welcome on this issue?

But just share my limited knowledge -

1.Mind can be controlled by mind only

2.Sometimes out of sight is out of mind- like only when we see mangoes

during summer our craving starts.

3.Satvic food etc , breathing practices; pranayamam checks velocity of mind

4. Actually we have to welcome certain enemies like vairagya, sense

control

etc which will later on become good friends of our mind. Once bigger enemy

comes the weaker ones like kama, krodha etc automatically walks out.

In such a company only we can expect the Lord to take permanent seat.

 

Learned people call it like " Sama" and " Dama"

Definitely I am not the right candidate to dwell on this mysterious topic.

In hindi they say man jite jag jitey. People say it is difficult but not

impossible.

 

Srimate Ramanujaya Namah

Srimate Vedanta Gurave Namah

Sri Satakopa Ramanuja Yathindra Mahadesikaya Namah

 

Vijayaraghavan V K

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Srirangasri-

 

 

 

Your use of is subject to

[Guest guest]

Swamin

 

What is this?

Narayana Smaranam swamin. Fall in love with this

great name and hear it every second. ay it every

second. Mind will rest

easy. If you (or we feed) more feeble and transitory,

it is then

mind is uneasy and we become subject to what follows.

Om Namo Narayanaya namah!

Everything else will fade sometime or other.

Except this "petra thaiyinum aayeena seyum namo

narayana ennum namam"

 

When we reach a stage where we see and feel this

great name, then we are at the end of all things

transitory!

 

we should never engage in distractive discussions.

Let us have faith in the intelligence of Swamy

Nammazwar and Swamy Desikan. Why should we even

question what they have generously given us.

There is no need to prove which name is better,

what will happen if I did this...etc.

All these questions are beginner and useful at that

stage. Once we lock on to Narayana Smaranam then

there is no debate. Nor should we engage in those.

 

When we do we end up tearing beautiful children

amongst us who are born in different circumstances and

are not

able to follow everything that we "promulgate" to be

part of their family. We are offending them.

 

What we must focus on and nothing else is this

love affair with Sriman Narayana. Get our mind

wedded inseparably to Sri and Sriman Narayana.

Then it does not matter if I am wearing a symbol or

not

much less what symbol I am wearing. Furthermore, it

does not matter if I go to Church or a mosque or

any place of worship..while being focussed on

Sriman Narayana. And this great bhaktavatsala will

appear in the form we desire HIM.

I am not saying this.

Swamy Nammazwar has said so,

thanca maagiya thanthai thaayodu

thaanu maayavai allanaay,

enca lilama rarku lamudhal

moovar thammuLLu maathiyai,

anci neerula katthuL LeergaL!

avani vanenRu koozEnmin,

nenci Nnaal_ninaip paanya vanavan

aagum neeLkadal vaNNanE.

--3.6.9 TVM

More learned members can further beautify this

Pasuram.

All our blemishes

by choice or without choice HE overlooks.

adiyen did not choose to be born in a utthiramerur

Srimad Andavan parampara. Nor did my parents and my

sweet mother choose to stuff me in my windbag.

Being so why should we attribute any significance to

anything that goes with such a chance event.

Everytime a question comes to our mind questioning

these sort of fundamental notions, then we ought to

ask

do I know more than Swamy Desikan? Can I ever know

more than Swamy Desikan. The answer is obvious.

If not convinced then we ought to seek Swamy

Nammazwar and ask the same questions. We ought to be

convinced at this point.

 

All human contrived procedures are to be discounted.

Symbols, ways of dressing, are all ephemeral and are

not so consequential to maintain our love affair

with Sriman Narayana. HE is not looking for it.

We make this up here and make a big fuss. It is our

limitation. adiyen cannot forget the people in ecstasy

in Badri, Rishikesh and Haridhwar. None of them would

qualify for anything for my village priest. One must

see to get an idea of the enjoyment and communiion

with

the great one.

 

In saying this adiyen definitely has ventured into

a questionable land. Worse yet my words might even

be taken for disrespect or misguidance.

 

I have met and I have many friends who are born in non

Iyengar environment showing much more reverence and

love for Lakshmi Narasimha.

I am writing this not to offend the elderly and the

learned amongst us but to salute these others. Share

my

friendship with them. That is the community I want to

be

with. I do not know how to write this in a less

insinuating way. All please find room to forgive me

for saying all these, this afternoon.

 

tvayi raxati raxakaiH kimanyaiH

tvayi chaaraxati raxakaiH kimanyaiH.

iti nishchita dhiiH shrayaami nityaM

nR^ihare vegavatii taTaashrayaM tvaam.h

oM naaraayaNaaya vidmahe vaasudevaaya dhiimahi |

tanno vishhNuH prachodayaat.h

 

Om Namo Narayanaya

Om Namo Bagavade Vasudevaya

Om Namo Vishnave

 

What we fail to see and derive out of these great

vakyams is not worth it. There is not such a thing.

We can get everythign from these great vakyams, like

Thirumangai Azwar has said.

Namo Narayana!

adiyen

 

--

anandavalli dasan

 

--- sukumar <sukumar wrote: