Guest guest Posted June 2, 2003 Report Share Posted June 2, 2003 "Lakshminatha samarambham Nada yamuna madyamam asmadhaachaarya paryantham vande guruparamparam" Dear Bhakthas, I have a question on guru parampara. It is said that Nammazhwar is next to vishwaksenar. How, When and where did vishwaksenar do samashrayanam and rahasya upadesam to nammazhwar. During sri Natha munigal's time, Nammazhwar had already attained paramapadam, how, When and where did nammazhwar do samashrayanam to Natha munigal For Adi van sadagopa swamy, it is said that Lakshmi Narasimhar came in the form of a human(Sanyasi ??) and performed samashrayanam etc. Then how did Adi van sadagopa swamy enter the existing guruparampara? Sorry if I had asked anything wrong. Narasimha raghavan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2003 Report Share Posted June 2, 2003 Namo Narayanaya Namah! Dear Narasimha Raghavan Swamin Lord Krishna, the most generous ONE, empowers every one of us to approach our respective acharyas and question with respect and keen interest in learning. adiyen takes your question regarding Swamy Nammazwar and Vishwaksenar and their acharya-sishya relationship, in that spirit and I am placing before devareer the following in response and with the interest of kindling and conversing with devareer's spiritural self. Religion is not a rational science. Not everything can be explained to the satisfaction of empirical mind. It is not possible. Faith is an imporant component of religion. Either you believe or you do not. adiyen has the same right as everyone else. There are such things as black holes in this universe. I have not seen it. I have heard about it. I do not believe it. But it is out there. The earth I am on (which gives me the false pretense of stability) is moving at 30000 km per second as part of the solar system around the milky way galaxy. Can you or any one rationalize this given our understanding. Uri Geller of Iran can bend spoons, lift iron etc by mere looks. I cannot do that. Can it be done. Uri geller did it. So answer is obvious. Tibetan monks and Nepalese monks can stay outside when the temperatue is below zero with their thin traditional dress. American TV shows have conducted experiments and found that these people generated more heat then they took in. Please visit a Lakshmi Narasimha Sannidhi (Mattapalli) I think. Where all devotees can take panagam (candy + water) and pour it into Swamy. The legend has it that one cannot pour more than half the amount taken in. This is magical also. Nature is elusive. E=mc**2 rather innocuous expression. But, ask the Japanese they might give you a vivid story of the implications of this short expression. Did you know that most material is mostly void. 90% is empty space. And then there is super fluid, super conductors etc., space warp, time warp etc..etc..which we cannot rationalize. And yet they happen right in front of us. Science cannot explain itself. Avayar said it best. What we know is very little. What we know that we do not know is also very little. What we do NOT know that we do not KNOW is very very large. What we have learned is very little. What we have not learned is very very large in contrast. At the rate apara vidya is being generated the gap is widening than ever before. So behold your curious mind unto Sriman Narayana and have faith. SwamY Nammazwar will bless you with great imperishable wealth. Choose wisely. There are two groups of thinkers who ask these questions. One group is serious and wants to learn. The other group knows the answer but want to have the pleasure of asking unanswerable questions. Therefore, my sincere request to you swamin is to choose wisely. How you spend your time. Time spent on such debates is as futile as trying to find which came first chicken or the egg? In India, in some quarters, some rationalists have sprung up. Their purpose in life is to show that the great Indian way is a hoax. They might have some legitimate gripe against a few sanyasis who misguide people. However, these rationalists are totally misguided in generalizing, blaming and dismantling an entire working social/culture structure in India. They know not what an effort it takes to build such a complicated system. Choose wisely, my dear devotee! It is not to say every belief, every act or every custom is not to be questioned, ever. We must question with the sole intent of encouraging and including others. To be tolerant etc. To bring out the best in every SV. We simply do not ask how Nammazwar lived without eating for years. In what way will the answer to this question help us or take us near Sriman Narayana or understanding our purpose here. There is no offense meant in my reply here to devareer or to anyone else. > > Sorry if I had asked anything wrong. > Please send me an email if you want further elaboration or if you are not convinced of the obvious answer to your question. Question out of sincere desire to learn is nothing to be sorry about. adiyen anandavalli dasan Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook. http://calendar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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