Guest guest Posted January 15, 2004 Report Share Posted January 15, 2004 SRI HARI DEAR SRINATH, I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU. WE HAVE "LEARNED"SO MANY UPANISHADS AND PRABHANDHAMS THAT EVEN IF AAZHWAARS OR "RAMANUJA " HIMSELF COMES DOWN WE WILL PROHIBIT THEM BASED ON THEIR TIRUMAN. IT IS THE HEIGHT OF STUPIDITY. A FELLOW WHO DISCRIMINATES BETWEEN THE TWO EYES OF SRI RAMANUJA CAN BE NOTHING BUT AN IDIOT. I DECLARE THIS BOLDLY. NOBODY HAS RIGHT TO STOP A PERSON,BE IT SRIVAISHNAVA OR SMARTHA, FROM RECITING TIRUVOIMOZHI . IN FACT, SUCH PEOPLE WILL BE PUNISHED SEVERELY BY THE LORD. THE DVESHAM AT TIRUVALLIKKENI AND TIRUVALLUR IS WELL KNOWN . SO ALSO, AT KANCHIPURAM. THE VAISHNAVITES SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF THIS AFFAIRS. I REALLY WONDER WHY SENIOR VAISHNAVITES ARE NOT MAKING ANY EFFORTS TO BRING BOTH THE KALAIS TOGETHER. I THINK THE UPANYASAKAS ADD A LITTLE OF THEIR VENOM TO THE AUDIENCE WHICH PERMEATES THROUGH THE SOCIETY. MAY BE THE UPANYASAKAS SHOULD STOP THIS DISRIMINATION IMMEDIATELY. ELSE, ALL VAISHNAVITE TEMPLES WILL END UP WITH SMAARTHA OR SOME 'OTHER" ARCHAKAS. WHO WILL BE RESPONSIBLE IN THAT CASE? WE ALONE. NONE ELSE. I SINCERELY THINK THAT PRAYING LORD SRIMAN NARAYANA AND RAMANUJA IS THE ONLY SOLUTION. I REQUEST ALL THE BHAGAVATHAS TO SINCERELY PRAY TO SRI RAMANUJA TO ENLIGHTEN US IN THIS REGARD DAASAN E.S.MUKUNDAN (SUGGESTIONS,CRITICISMS ARE WELCOME) Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes./signingbonus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2004 Report Share Posted January 15, 2004 Dear all, I also agree with Mr. Mukundan you that no discrimination should be made between devotees be it smarthas or vaishnavas, be it thenkalai or vadakalai, be it even brahmanas or not. we all know there were azhwars who were not brahmanas. Most nayanmars were not brahmanas. Didn't the Lord grant them moksha? We should all be ashamed that such things happen right inside temples. I myself have witnessed such discriminating acts in tiruvellikkeni temple. I have also witnessed this in smartha temples. Here I wish to remind you all that I am a smartha myself. I am very interested in the Upanishads and Vedas and do a lot of study on them. All of them say, everything emanates from the Brahman. There are verses in the Vedas that say a man does not become a brahmana simply because he's born in a brahmin family. I wish to quote Adi Shankara here. He says in his subhashitas - Nethrasya Bhooshanam Sama dhrustitha. This means equanimity is beauty for the eyes. I only hope people understand these things. People must understand Bhakthi without Jnana and/or Sharanagathi merely nurtures an ignorant ego. If Bhakthi and Jnana exist together, it can take a devotee to great heights through meditation. If Bhakthi and Sharanagathi exist together, then the Lord protects you as though you were an innocent child. Bhakthi alone cannot get you anywhere. This is my humble opinion. I am open to criticism too. Thanks, Jayaram Thiagarajan elangadu santanam mukundan <mukundan_es wrote: SRI HARI DEAR SRINATH, I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU. WE HAVE "LEARNED"SO MANY UPANISHADS AND PRABHANDHAMS THAT EVEN IF AAZHWAARS OR "RAMANUJA " HIMSELF COMES DOWN WE WILL PROHIBIT THEM BASED ON THEIR TIRUMAN. IT IS THE HEIGHT OF STUPIDITY. A FELLOW WHO DISCRIMINATES BETWEEN THE TWO EYES OF SRI RAMANUJA CAN BE NOTHING BUT AN IDIOT. I DECLARE THIS BOLDLY. NOBODY HAS RIGHT TO STOP A PERSON,BE IT SRIVAISHNAVA OR SMARTHA, FROM RECITING TIRUVOIMOZHI . IN FACT, SUCH PEOPLE WILL BE PUNISHED SEVERELY BY THE LORD. THE DVESHAM AT TIRUVALLIKKENI AND TIRUVALLUR IS WELL KNOWN . SO ALSO, AT KANCHIPURAM. THE VAISHNAVITES SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF THIS AFFAIRS. I REALLY WONDER WHY SENIOR VAISHNAVITES ARE NOT MAKING ANY EFFORTS TO BRING BOTH THE KALAIS TOGETHER. I THINK THE UPANYASAKAS ADD A LITTLE OF THEIR VENOM TO THE AUDIENCE WHICH PERMEATES THROUGH THE SOCIETY. MAY BE THE UPANYASAKAS SHOULD STOP THIS DISRIMINATION IMMEDIATELY. ELSE, ALL VAISHNAVITE TEMPLES WILL END UP WITH SMAARTHA OR SOME 'OTHER" ARCHAKAS. WHO WILL BE RESPONSIBLE IN THAT CASE? WE ALONE. NONE ELSE. I SINCERELY THINK THAT PRAYING LORD SRIMAN NARAYANA AND RAMANUJA IS THE ONLY SOLUTION. I REQUEST ALL THE BHAGAVATHAS TO SINCERELY PRAY TO SRI RAMANUJA TO ENLIGHTEN US IN THIS REGARD DAASAN E.S.MUKUNDAN (SUGGESTIONS,CRITICISMS ARE WELCOME) Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes./signingbonus / Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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