Guest guest Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 Dear All, Can anyone give me information on Hinduism classes and Sanskrit Classes in Madras. Regards, Srimathi Venkatachari Raghavan s.ramachandran wrote: This refers to the interactions below: Sutra I-28 "tad jap tad artha..." of the Patanjali Yoga Sutras make it amply clear that - and this can be borne out by actually experiencing - that if one chants and contemplates on the meaning, of OM, then one may get a glimpse of something beyond. It is therefore highly essential, nay highly desirable that one just not mechanically chant. The mantra words, originating from the Shurthi, are pure and structured with high precision by divinity. When chanted properly a series of vibrations are set forth and this impacts each of the 'nadis' or nerve endings deep inside us. These vibrations in turn activate the parasympathic nervous system in the spinal column and results in a natural calmness covering the brain cells and brain activities. Specifically with reference to the Gayathri Chanting, experiments with volunteers over many days at Kaivalyadhama, Lonavala have clearly established beyond any shred of doubt mental, psychological, psysiological and hormonal changes at deeper levels - all for the better of course. So we do have clear scientific, well documented, researched, statistically proved and calibarated results available. These srudies are part of a much bigger project and are ongoing. In short the contemplation of the meaning of Om is to follow the chant of Om. When we recite or chant Om, it does not mean that our mind will be remaining idle. On the contrary, it concentrates itself: it feels the presence of a harmony with the whole universe. One can do Japa of Om itself in any of the forms mentioned. One has to extrapolate this the Gayathri and it will be obvious about the enormous potential which occurs when the Gayathri alongwith the Om is chanted. It is therefore, extremely critical and mandatory for the Sandhya to be performed without fail. It is quite surprising that Shri Vishnu has questioned the efficacy of Sandhya and perhaps thinks of replacing the Sandhya with 'namaa' chanting. Come what may, the Sandhya is a nitya karma ordained by the Vedas and no one is excused. Dilution of Sandhya requirements are therefore out of question. One may dilute all other rituals, worship etc. but not the Sandhya. Om Tat Sat Tat tvam asi ramanuja@gr oups.com ramanuja cc: 02/09/04 05:49 [ramanuja] Digest Number 731 PM Please respond to ramanuja ---~-> There are 5 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. Re: Narayana Mantram and Picture "Vishnu" <vsmvishnu 2. Re: Narayana Mantram and Picture "Vishnu" <vsmvishnu 3. Thanks!! "Shankaranarayanan Rajaraman" <jeenchu78 4. AchArya Hrdhyam 151 nsp <aazhwar 5. Re: Nrisimhaashtakam "Vishnu" <vsmvishnu ______________________ ______________________ Message: 1 Sun, 08 Feb 2004 13:57:05 -0000 "Vishnu" <vsmvishnu Re: Narayana Mantram and Picture ramanuja, "vaidhehi_nc" <nappinnai_nc> wrote: > Sri: > Srimathe Ramanujaya nama: > Dear SriMahaVishnu, Dear Ms Nappinnai, I am undoubtedtly the least learned and the most ignorant in this forum. You are right in saying that chanting ashtAksharI goes agaisnt the principles of SrIvachana bhUshaNam (also mumukshuppadi). That is why most of the Thenkalai AchAryas do not prescribe any sort of japam. However, I did not want to project "not chanting it" as another ritual. That is why I wrote that one can chant it umpteen times. adiyEn rAmAnuja dAsan Vishnu > I envy your name and your clarity of thought process > as well :-) With my maNdUka knowledge,I can feel that you have the > right perspective of TK sampradAyam. I feel that chanting mUla > manthram umpteen number of times defies TK sampradAyam completely and > also violates srI vacana bhUShaNam to the core if one gives stress to > and the benefits of the chanting as a ritual. When I read your > mails,my thoughts get sharpened and tuned. I miss your personal > mails. Once in a while,please send mails loaded with bhagavad > knowledge. Only a bhAgavatha like you can uplift souls like me with > viparIta j~nAnam. > > AzhvAr emperumAnAr jIyar thiruvadigaLE sharaNam > NC Nappinnai > ______________________ ______________________ Message: 2 Sun, 08 Feb 2004 14:12:58 -0000 "Vishnu" <vsmvishnu Re: Narayana Mantram and Picture ramanuja, "Lakshmi Narasimhan" <nrusimhan@h...> wrote: Dear Sriman Narasimhan, I agree with what you have said. I think Alwar suggests here thinking of BhagavAn's guNas and not nAma alone. Please correct me if I am wrong. Whatever is said on ashtAksharI applies very well to gAyatrI. here also meaning is important and one can have faith in that meaning if convinced. adiyEn will try to get the meaning of gAyatrI as given in rAmAyaNa commentary of gOvindarAja. I have a doubt. sandhyAvandanam itself is a ritual performed in limited time and chanting of gAyatrI is a part of it. So one cannot think of His qualities while repeating gAyatrI. So is it not better to devote some time to read some pASurams with their meanings or bhagavadguNa darpaNam (sahasranAma commentary) rather than spending time in rituals e.g. sandhyAvandanam? adiyEn rAmAnuja dAsan Vishnu > Asmad Gurubhyo Namaha > Srimathe Ramanujaya Namaha > > Dear Swami, > The "formal recitation of the ga:yatri" is itself a mispractice that > is happening or atleast misunderstood. Gayatri needs to be chanted > while we contemplate upon the supreme. Azhwar says: > "peyarinaiye pundhiyal sindhiyaadhu oodhi uruvennum > andhiyaalaam payanangen?" > That is, Azhwar claims that, what would be the point of those > chantings that were done for the sake of count and not for the sake > of thinking about the bhagavan nama, during the sandhyavandhanam. So, > Gayathri must be chanted only while thinking/contemplating the > supreme - reason for the exact count of Gayathri(like 108, 1008 etc) > is not known to me - learned scholars may throw further light on > this. Chanting of Thirumanthram in addition to Gayathri as part of > this ritual, is optional, though not necessarily recommended by all > acharyas. > > I apologize for my mistakes if any. > > Adiyen, > Ramanuja Dasan > > ramanuja, Madhuri and Mohan <m_raghavan@e...> > wrote: > > Sri Vishnu, > > > > From this e-mail, I think that you and I are saying very much the > same > > thing, and apologize if I saw it differently in your original > message. > > I would concur with you that contemplation upon the meaning of the > > mantra is most important, and not just its mere mechanical > recitation. > > Perhaps this is why most a:cha:ryas would limit prescribing it as a > > formalized japam. > > > > However, I do recall from my own readings and discussion with > others > > that part of the sandhya vandanam practice does involve taking a > few > > moments to contemplate on the thirumantram after formal recitation > of > > the ga:yatri. I think that the reason that no specific number or > count > > is specified would seem to indicate that this be a contemplation, > and > > not some sort of formalized ritual for ritual's sake. > > > > Ramanuja dasan > > Mohan ______________________ ______________________ Message: 3 Sat, 07 Feb 2004 04:27:09 -0000 "Shankaranarayanan Rajaraman" <jeenchu78 Thanks!! Dear members, Adiyen Shankaranarayanan would like to thank Sri TCA Venkatesan and the moderator of Shri Ramanuja for introducing and accepting me in the e-satsangh. I reside at Arlington,Texas and am a fresh EE graduate. Regards, Shankaranarayanan ______________________ ______________________ Message: 4 Mon, 09 Feb 2004 06:50:05 +0530 nsp <aazhwar AchArya Hrdhyam 151 AchArya Hrdhayam -sUthram 223 The Fifth Ten The Love for the Lord "pEAr amar pin ninRu kazhiya migu yAneAyenna vAithu ARRAgillAdhu nErAi meliya vUdu pukku vaLara..." Summary: It was seen in the preceding posting that the Lord is the reason for increasing the increasing yearning for Him, the reason for the Love and Affection towards Him. The creation of such Love, the emancipation of such love, the evolution of such love, the impact of the Love on AzhwAr is further explained. The great love-pEaramar kAdhal- emerges from the Lord's everlasting beautiful form. This Love settles down in the mind of AzhwAr and creates restlessness. Does it stop with that? The friends around AzhwAr comments on this love. The love manifests itself into thriving oneself by acting like the Lord- I created this whole world, I am the ultimate in learning, I am the ultimate in what one sees, I am the pancha-bhUdham, the actions, the cause-effects, the heaven, hell etc. This reflcts that AzhwAr cannot live without the Almighty even for a second. Even the physique of AzhwAr melts on thinking of sweetness of the Lord Almighty. Is this state of affair intermittent for AzhwAr? No this is an experience day in and day out for AzhwAr. The auspicious qualities and deeds of the Lord pierces into the mind of AzhwAr and melts him time and again. That is the nature of love towards the lord-great love-pEr amar kAdhal. .. pAsuram-s: "pEar amar kAdhal kadal puraiya viLaivitha"--thiru voi mozhi 5-3-4----> TheGreat Love towards the Lord is created by the Lord Himself. "pin ninRa kAdhal nOi nenjam peridhu adumAl" --thiru voi mozhi 5-4-6--> The Love becomes a disease as it pains the mind -makes it restless. "kazhiya mikkadhOre kAdhgalaL ivaL" -thiru voi mozhi 5-5-10--> The friends around AzhwAr comment on AzhwAr's Love. "kadal gnAlam seidhEnum yAnEa ennum"---> thiru voi mozhi 5-6-- all the elven pAsuram-s of this thiru voi mozhi reflect AzhwAr's mindset. AzhwAr is able to survive by acting like the Lord. AzhwAr says that " I created the world.I am the world. I am the cause effects. I am the Learning. I destroyed. I am the deities , the muni-s and so on. These pAsuram-s reflect that AzhwAr is not able to sustain himself by merely thinking about the Lord but need more by acting like the Lord. "Agilum ini vunnai vittonRum ARRa kiRkinRilEan" --thiru voi mozhi 5-7-1--> " I am not able to be my self without being with you" is AzhwAr's predicament. "ArA amudhEA adiyEAn vudalam nin pAl anbAyEa nErAi alaindhu karaiya " --thiru voi mozhi 5-8-1--> AzhwAr's physique melts on contemplating the sweetness of the Lord. "vaigalum vinayEan meliya"--thiru voi mozhi 5-9-1--> This effect of Love is day in and day out for AzhwAr and not just intermittent. "niRandhan vUdu pukku enadhu Aviyai ninRu ninRu vurukki vuNginRa"--thiru voi mozhi 5-10--> This thiru voi mozhi talks of deeds and qualities of the Lord Almighty which pierces into the mind of AzhwAr and torments. Thus, the nature of Love and Affection towards the Lord is elaborated. (to be continued) vanamamalai padmanabhan ______________________ ______________________ Message: 5 Sun, 08 Feb 2004 14:22:44 -0000 "Vishnu" <vsmvishnu Re: Nrisimhaashtakam Dear Sriman Kesavan, Here transliterating it properly is important. kalanka mean blemish. akaLanka means blemishless. Srimath+akaLanka is to be read a SrImadakaLanka without break. The choice of sequence of words here is wonderful: SrImath = always with pirAtti (so always kind) akaLanka = blemishless (because of being SrImath) paripUrNa = complete (because of being blemishless). adiyEn rAmAnuja dAsan Vishnu ramanuja, "kesavants" <kesavants> wrote: > Dear Bhagavathas, > Pranams. Is this shloka Nrisimhaashtakam which starts like > this "srimada kalanka paripoorna sashi koti" composed by Sri Manavala > Mamuningal? Is this praising the Lord in any particular kshetram or > divya desam? Please let me know. > Pranams, > srinivasa dasan ______________________ ______________________ azhwAr emberumAnAr jeeyAr thiruvadigalE saranam ------ ------ / Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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