RE: why Gods have sons?

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Srimathe Ramanujaya Namaha:

Dear Srimathi JayaSree Ramanujam,

My Pranams. Honestly I don't think I can answer the "Why" part of this

question. Puranas and Itihasas probably highlight the significant

characters. Let me hasten to add that others not mentioned are not

insignificant, especially members of the fairer sex. True we do not hear

about any daughter of Lord Rama or Lord Krishna. But one should infer from

the fact that since Lord Krishna had many wives, He should have had many

children and there is a distinct statistical possibility that some of them

belonged to the fairer sex. According to Puranas, of the 9 Avatarams of

Emperuman in only two Avatharams did He have children.

However in some Puranas daughters are said to have been born to Emperuman

Lord Narayana. It is said that the two consorts of Kartikeya (Valli and

another) are the daughters of Sri Maha Vishnu. Again Urvashi the Divine

Nymph was born from the Uru(s) meaning thighs of the Lord, hence the name

Urvashi. If we delve into Puranas we may get more examples.

However we are all sons and daughters of Emperumaan at the same time.

At a higher realm there is no distinction between the two genders. In

Vaishnava Siddhanta, especially that which is called Sri Sampradaya or Sri

Ramanuja Darsanam, the Jeevathmas have no gender attributed to them. They

are just Jeevathmas and when they descend into the earthly plane they take

the body of a man or woman according to their past karma phalam.

Jai Sriman Narayana,

Adiyen,

Ramanuja Dasan

 

 

>jayashree ramanujam <jayjamm

>Ramanujam Varada Srinivasa Thatta <acharyatvsr

>Re: RE: why Gods have sons? Sun, 25 Jul 2004

>22:52:03 -0700 (PDT)

>

>dear sir,

>your articles r very impressive for a novice like me.

>few days ago i posted a query in this group but im yet

>to get a reply. hope u would enlighten me. most of the

>avatars (rama, krishna siva) seems to be blessed with

>sons and not a daughter. is there a thathuvam to go

>by.

>

>regards

>jayashree.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>--- Ramanujam Varada Srinivasa Thatta

><acharyatvsr wrote:

> > Sreemathe Ramanujaya Namaha:

> > Dear Raghavan Swamin,

> > I feel greatly honoured to be appreciated by your

> > good self. I don't deserve

> > that honour. However if my explanation which is on

> > the lines of what our

> > Poovacharyas said on the subject, satisfies at least

> > some devotees of

> > Emperuman I feel elated.

> > This world itself is a great stage set by the Lord

> > to elevate our souls and

> > for evolution of our souls by making us realize our

> > exact relationship with

> > the Paramaathma. We see dramas being played on

> > stage, watch TV shows and

> > cinemas and we sympathize with the characters as if

> > we are living amidst

> > them. We grieve and cry sometimes when we see our

> > heroines are suffering and

> > are elated and when good days again dawn on them,

> > however fleeting these

> > experiences may be. On the real stage, on the living

> > plane these are more

> > long lasting experiences. At the same time we also

> > learn lessons from these

> > experiences.

> > At the same time on a higher plane the Divine Drama

> > is also going on. If we

> > ponder a bit all the occurings are nothing but

> > Divine in origin. All these

> > occur simultaneously. There is a purpose behind all

> > of these occurings if we

> > care to dwell in them.

> > Each occcuring has something to teach us. The

> > ultimate realization is of

> > course the futility of this kind of life on earth,

> > which has to come to an

> > end someday. Everything is Anithyam and Asaswatam.

> > However we have to take part in this drama

> > vigourouly. This is what is said

> > in Bhagavat Geeta by Emperuman. He Himself has to

> > act though there is no

> > reason for Him to do so. He sets an example.

> > We have to do our duty and do it well according to

> > Bhagavat Geetha, which is

> > nothing but the Upanishad Saram.

> > Then again so is Ramayanam.

> > It is a great epic, which makes our mind and soul go

> > through fire and ice.

> > And that is why we are agitated and ask Why Oh Why?

> > It is meant to kindle

> > our thoughts and correct our deeds.

> > I feel extremely pained and I am not ashamed to

> > confess that I sometimes

> > shed tears when I think of travails of the Divine

> > Mother.

> > The only explanation I can think of is here Lord

> > Ramachandra is acting as

> > Chakravarthi Tirumagan, the Monarch of the Kingdom

> > of God on this earth. He

> > has a duty. He has to listen to and protect his

> > subjects. He has to maintain

> > an order in the society.

> > He cannot run away with His Wife however lofty Her

> > conduct maybe, renouncing

> > His duties as a King. He is enacting the role of a

> > great human character

> > Remember He says "Aatmaanam Manusham manye--". He is

> > doing His duty by

> > banishing the Divine mother Who happens to be His

> > Wife to the forest. He

> > grieved as no other human can. In BhavaBhuti's

> > Uttara Rama Charitam his

> > grief is compared to Puta Pakam. Putam is a furnace

> > in which Ayuveduc

> > medicines are boiled at high temperatures for days

> > and months together. We

> > also grieve with Him even after these thousands of

> > years, and so it should

> > be to purify our hearts and souls.

> > Adiyen,

> > Ramanuja Dasan.

> >

> > >Srini Raghavan <sraghav

> > >Ramanujam Varada Srinivasa Thatta

> > <acharyatvsr

> > >CC:

> > >Please enlighten me

> > >Fri, 23 Jul 2004 11:52:01 -0700 (PDT)

> > >

> > >Dear Swamin:

> > >I feel honored to learn that your views and

> > opinions on the subject of

> > >Moolavar and on the gender of all jeevatmas (souls)

> > as feminine at birth as

> > >alluded by Sriman Sudarshan,

> > >are totally identical to mine. I expressed my

> > concerns to Sri Sudarshan

> > >and Anbil Swamin in personal email and Sri

> > Sudarshan has graciously

> > >responded to my comments

> > >on the scientific validity of his statement. We

> > reconciled our viewpoints.

> > >I was lot more vehement and forceful in expressing

> > my opinion on the

> > >subject of Moolavar while you are very gentle and

> > subtle in convincing the

> > >same sentiment. I lack your style of approach and

> > judgment with wisdom and

> > >knowledge on Srivaishnavism as I get swayed with

> > emotions.

> > >

> > >Your comments on Sita piratti's agnipravesam are

> > thought-provoking and

> > >illuminating.

> > >Now, I can comprehend Ramayana as drama staged by

> > the Lord and Piratti for

> > >the Human World. I would be very happy, had it

> > ended with Pattibhishekam.

> > >But the continuation to dramatize Uttarakandam with

> > poignant episodes of

> > >Sita Piratti's banishment as pregnant mother are

> > heart breaking and

> > >clamoring for justice in Rama's court. Human dharma

> > would not permit this

> > >offense to a pregnant lady who is only escorted to

> > her parents house for

> > >safe delivery and care of the newborn. Would you

> > please enlighten us on

> > >the esoteric meaning for Uttarakandam? How could

> > Rama, the Divine ever

> > >indulge in punishing Piratti with this cruel

> > ordinance of Banishment?

> > >

> > >Adiyen for ever Rama Bakhtha,

> > >Srinivasa Raghavan

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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