Guest guest Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 Dear Sri M.Sadagopan, I am extremely saddened to read your most unkind and uncharitable note. I can't imagine why as a good SriVaishnavan you allow yourself to be overtaken by feelings of petty ill-will. Do you live in Kuwait? Do you know any of the members of the T'venkatam group here? If you knew us you would never write the things you have done. The Group members here are just about 30-40 families. We have all come away from our homelands for the sake of livelihood, professional advancement and for the sake of our respective children. We come from different social backgrounds and hail from different regions of India. We also come from different religious sects. There are SriVaishnavas amongst us, both Tenkalai and Vadagalai, 'smArtA-s', there used to be "mAdhvA-s" too. We have Tamil Brahmins, Telugu Brahmins, Palghat Brahmins. We have SriVaishnavas who hail from Tirupati, Kanchipuram, Puram, TiruvellikEni.... Sir, we are a very heterogenous, very mixed group. And yet we are all like one large, happy family here. We meet, we pray, we worship, we celebrate, we laugh, we sing... If you ask us how and why, I can say only this: In spite of our heterogenuity, we have 2 common things that bond us all together tightly: One, all of us, irrespective of our sectarian loyalty, are devoted to the Lord of Tirumala. Which is why we call ourselves the "tiruvenkatam" group. Second, all of us know that in spite of belonging to various sects, we have a common root, which is the Vedas. Which is why we all do "vEdadhyAyana". We do it together -- leaving aside all our sectarian differences. Let me also tell you amongst the SriVaishnavas here, there is absolutely no feeling of "I'm Tenkalai, You are Vadagalai". We all learn and celebrate the "divya-prabhandham". We all learn "dEsika-stOtrA-s". Every year we all celebrate in a grand manner the "tirunakshatram" of ManavAla-muni. (I wish you could see the photographs we have of last year's celebrations at the residence of one of our good members, Sri P.T.Narayanan!). Who told you that we don't recite the "taniyans" of Tenkalai 'AchAryA-s"? At every monthly "sravaNOtsavam" that we have here in Kuwait, we ensure that the respective "tanians" and "vaazhi tirunAmam" of both "kalai-s" are recited without fail. Both Vadagalai and Tenkalai members recite it loudly and reverently. Sir, I do not know what right you have to imagine things and hurl such unkind accusations against our T'venkatam Group, Kuwait. Either you are completely misinformed or you are being very malicious. We are living here in Kuwait as one large happy Vaideeka family. Please do not create mischief amongst us by sowing the seeds of petty, sectarian divisions amongst us. Please do not break-up our little family. Yours sadly, dAsan, Sudarshan --- "M.Sadagopan" <harini wrote: > Srimathe Ramanujaya Namaha > > You people are accepting to chant rudram,but refused > to chant Swamy > Manavalamamunigal prabhandham. I am surprised to see > that you will chant > rudram, chamakam therby worshipping anyadevatha. I > don't know how the person > can call himself srivaishnava while refusing to > recite thaniyans of > Thenkalai srivaishnava achrayas. > > Adiyen > Ramanuja dasan > ______________________ India Matrimony: Find your life partner online Go to: http://.shaadi.com/india-matrimony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 Dear Sudarshan Swamy, I really liked ur note. In fact I would say that such a society should be the model one. I detest the argument in the letter which u have replied that Rudram & chamakam are not to be chanted by vaishnavas. I have the following reply for that letter. Who said that Rudram & chamakam are not to be chanted by vaishnavas? Where is the pramanam for such a statement? Please for heaven sake dont foment such attitude. For your kind information, Rudram & Chamakam forms part of Krishna yajurveda samhitha and all yajurvedis are supposed to recite it. Every acharya of ours have recited it in their brahmayagnyams (it is a practise followed to recite one prasnam of the 82 in brahmayagnyam daily) to keep mastry over it. Rudram is a powerful manthram to ward off eveil effects & I remember my elite srivaishnavaite grand father reciting it. In all vedaparayan goshtis this is recited invariably. For all srivaishnavas everything in there is Lord's praise. Please dont undermine them & take their names with respect and not with contempt. I like the activities u r conducting in Kuwait & I am completely elated about them. All the best for good future activities Sajjana Padapadma paramanuhu Lakshi Narasimha dasan sudarshan madabushi <mksudarshan2002 wrote: Dear Sri M.Sadagopan, I am extremely saddened to read your most unkind and uncharitable note. I can't imagine why as a good SriVaishnavan you allow yourself to be overtaken by feelings of petty ill-will. Do you live in Kuwait? Do you know any of the members of the T'venkatam group here? If you knew us you would never write the things you have done. The Group members here are just about 30-40 families. We have all come away from our homelands for the sake of livelihood, professional advancement and for the sake of our respective children. We come from different social backgrounds and hail from different regions of India. We also come from different religious sects. There are SriVaishnavas amongst us, both Tenkalai and Vadagalai, 'smArtA-s', there used to be "mAdhvA-s" too. We have Tamil Brahmins, Telugu Brahmins, Palghat Brahmins. We have SriVaishnavas who hail from Tirupati, Kanchipuram, Puram, TiruvellikEni.... Sir, we are a very heterogenous, very mixed group. And yet we are all like one large, happy family here. We meet, we pray, we worship, we celebrate, we laugh, we sing... If you ask us how and why, I can say only this: In spite of our heterogenuity, we have 2 common things that bond us all together tightly: One, all of us, irrespective of our sectarian loyalty, are devoted to the Lord of Tirumala. Which is why we call ourselves the "tiruvenkatam" group. Second, all of us know that in spite of belonging to various sects, we have a common root, which is the Vedas. Which is why we all do "vEdadhyAyana". We do it together -- leaving aside all our sectarian differences. Let me also tell you amongst the SriVaishnavas here, there is absolutely no feeling of "I'm Tenkalai, You are Vadagalai". We all learn and celebrate the "divya-prabhandham". We all learn "dEsika-stOtrA-s". Every year we all celebrate in a grand manner the "tirunakshatram" of ManavAla-muni. (I wish you could see the photographs we have of last year's celebrations at the residence of one of our good members, Sri P.T.Narayanan!). Who told you that we don't recite the "taniyans" of Tenkalai 'AchAryA-s"? At every monthly "sravaNOtsavam" that we have here in Kuwait, we ensure that the respective "tanians" and "vaazhi tirunAmam" of both "kalai-s" are recited without fail. Both Vadagalai and Tenkalai members recite it loudly and reverently. Sir, I do not know what right you have to imagine things and hurl such unkind accusations against our T'venkatam Group, Kuwait. Either you are completely misinformed or you are being very malicious. We are living here in Kuwait as one large happy Vaideeka family. Please do not create mischief amongst us by sowing the seeds of petty, sectarian divisions amongst us. Please do not break-up our little family. Yours sadly, dAsan, Sudarshan --- "M.Sadagopan" <harini wrote: > Srimathe Ramanujaya Namaha > > You people are accepting to chant rudram,but refused > to chant Swamy > Manavalamamunigal prabhandham. I am surprised to see > that you will chant > rudram, chamakam therby worshipping anyadevatha. I > don't know how the person > can call himself srivaishnava while refusing to > recite thaniyans of > Thenkalai srivaishnava achrayas. > > Adiyen > Ramanuja dasan > ______________________ India Matrimony: Find your life partner online Go to: http://.shaadi.com/india-matrimony / Mail is new and improved - Check it out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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