chanting Rudram......

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SrI:

SrImathE Gopaladesika mahadesikaya namah:

 

Dear Sri CS Lakshmi Narasimhan Swami,

 

adiyEn had observed at Srimad Poundarikapuram Ashramam and heard

from asmadhAchAryan His Holiness srimad PaRavaakkOttai Andavan Swami:

 

For every pradhOsham, in the ashramam, my father (who recites Veda

paarayanam at the ashramam in Srirangam daily both in the monring

and in the evenings) recites Rudram as ordained by Swami.

 

I was a bit puzzled and asked Swami as to why and how Rudram is

chanted during pradhOsham. He replied that every statement of Vedas-

including Rudram -implies only Sriman Narayanan; and if others think

that it is for some other by name Rudran, it is incorrect and an

illusion. It is but appropriate to chant Rudram by Srivaishnavas as

they always do recite for ages.. - was his reponse.

 

Regards

Namo Narayana

dAsan

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Dear Swamy,

 

Ur revered acharya has very well said it. Its the same outlook every where.

Thanks for sharing this.

 

Sajjana pada padma parama renuhu

 

Lakshmi Narasimha dasan

 

 

 

srivaishnavan <srivaishnavan wrote: SrI:

SrImathE Gopaladesika mahadesikaya namah:

 

Dear Sri CS Lakshmi Narasimhan Swami,

 

adiyEn had observed at Srimad Poundarikapuram Ashramam and heard

from asmadhAchAryan His Holiness srimad PaRavaakkOttai Andavan Swami:

 

For every pradhOsham, in the ashramam, my father (who recites Veda

paarayanam at the ashramam in Srirangam daily both in the monring

and in the evenings) recites Rudram as ordained by Swami.

 

I was a bit puzzled and asked Swami as to why and how Rudram is

chanted during pradhOsham. He replied that every statement of Vedas-

including Rudram -implies only Sriman Narayanan; and if others think

that it is for some other by name Rudran, it is incorrect and an

illusion. It is but appropriate to chant Rudram by Srivaishnavas as

they always do recite for ages.. - was his reponse.

 

Regards

Namo Narayana

dAsan

 

 

 

 

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SrI:

 

As the great acharyan ( srimad andavan) said all namas direct only to sriman

narayana. We, the samsaris on earth, are called " MishrayAgis" unlike

"SomayAgis" in swetadweepam. We are called so as our mantras have rudrams etc

still all the mantras are on emperuman only and not on anyone else. One rishi

says that all these mantras like rudram are aimed at the antaryami sriman

narayana only! But Jaimini goes ahead fantastically to say " SakshAt api "

jaminihi! That is namas like rudra etc when analysed for their actual meaning

indicates directly only sriman Narayana. That is why the veda bhagams with

seemingly devathantra naamas HAS TO BE CHANTED by all including prapannas as it

is their DUTY. There is no deviation from the svanishta of a prapanna regarding

this. This is being asserted by swami desikan in krutakrutyaadhikaram in Srimad

Saram. So when one says "saavithriyai nama:" we can either think of antaryami of

savithri to whom the respect is being paid or without any effort simply

UNDERSTAND what jaimini had said!!!

 

Here one question might arise. When we come across Rudra nama in veda we do not

discard it as it is vedas. then why does not a prapanna chant those names in

circumstances other than vedic or nithyakarmas ? This is forbidden by Swami

desikan with the strength of pramanas. Unless there is a situation like vedic

chanting/ nithya karma like sandhyavandanam, a prapanna does not employ those

namas! for example while sitting down instead of " madhava madhusoodana " he

does not say " Rudra siva " )

 

AdiyEn,

 

Aravindalochanadasanudasan.

 

 

 

SrI:

SrImathE Gopaladesika mahadesikaya namah:

 

Dear Sri CS Lakshmi Narasimhan Swami,

 

adiyEn had observed at Srimad Poundarikapuram Ashramam and heard

from asmadhAchAryan His Holiness srimad PaRavaakkOttai Andavan Swami:

 

For every pradhOsham, in the ashramam, my father (who recites Veda

paarayanam at the ashramam in Srirangam daily both in the monring

and in the evenings) recites Rudram as ordained by Swami.

 

I was a bit puzzled and asked Swami as to why and how Rudram is

chanted during pradhOsham. He replied that every statement of Vedas-

including Rudram -implies only Sriman Narayanan; and if others think

that it is for some other by name Rudran, it is incorrect and an

illusion. It is but appropriate to chant Rudram by Srivaishnavas as

they always do recite for ages.. - was his reponse.

 

Regards

Namo Narayana

dAsan

 

 

 

 

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SrI:

SrImathE Gopaladesika mahadesikaya namah:

 

Last year, he told adiyen that Rudram can be recited to Sri.

Lakshminarasimhan Perumal without any restriction. Adiyen had

witnessed bhagavathas reciting Rudram in Sri Lakshminarasimhan

sannidhi. For every pradosham day, Tirumanjanam is performed to Sri.

Lakshminarasimhan Perumal in Srirangam, Kattu Azhagiya singar temple.

 

narayana!

, "srivaishnavan"

<srivaishnavan> wrote:

> SrI:

> SrImathE Gopaladesika mahadesikaya namah:

>

> Dear Sri CS Lakshmi Narasimhan Swami,

>

> adiyEn had observed at Srimad Poundarikapuram Ashramam and heard

> from asmadhAchAryan His Holiness srimad PaRavaakkOttai Andavan Swami:

>

> For every pradhOsham, in the ashramam, my father (who recites Veda

> paarayanam at the ashramam in Srirangam daily both in the monring

> and in the evenings) recites Rudram as ordained by Swami.

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SRIMATHE RAMANUJAYA NAMAHA.

 

dear all,

 

Sri Ramanuja dwelt at this aspect in his Sri bhashya while explaining

the passages from Shwethaswathara upanishad (the exact portions on

Rudra have been quoted in my mail on Anya devathas)and concluded that

whenever and wherever deities like Rudra, Indra, Vayu etc are spoken

about or meditated upon as the Supreme, know them to be Brahman or

Sriman Narayana.

 

Regards.

 

 

-- In , "srivaishnavan"

<srivaishnavan> wrote:

> SrI:

> SrImathE Gopaladesika mahadesikaya namah:

>

> Dear Sri CS Lakshmi Narasimhan Swami,

>

> adiyEn had observed at Srimad Poundarikapuram Ashramam and heard

> from asmadhAchAryan His Holiness srimad PaRavaakkOttai Andavan

Swami:

>

> For every pradhOsham, in the ashramam, my father (who recites Veda

> paarayanam at the ashramam in Srirangam daily both in the monring

> and in the evenings) recites Rudram as ordained by Swami.

>

> I was a bit puzzled and asked Swami as to why and how Rudram is

> chanted during pradhOsham. He replied that every statement of Vedas-

 

> including Rudram -implies only Sriman Narayanan; and if others

think

> that it is for some other by name Rudran, it is incorrect and an

> illusion. It is but appropriate to chant Rudram by Srivaishnavas as

> they always do recite for ages.. - was his reponse.

>

> Regards

> Namo Narayana

> dAsan

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Sri Aravind, It is an intelligent post. You said :

 

then why does not a prapanna chant those names in circumstances other than vedic

or nithyakarmas ? This is forbidden by Swami desikan with the strength of

pramanas. Unless there is a situation like vedic chanting/ nithya karma like

sandhyavandanam, a prapanna does not employ those namas! for example while

sitting down instead of " madhava madhusoodana " he does not say " Rudra siva "

)

 

1) If rudra, siva are names of vishnu only as it is in vedas, sahasranama etc.,

why does a prapanna not say that ?

 

2) What are the pramanas quoted by Swami Desikan ?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Kamalasana Das]

Hare Krsna,

 

I find the topic very interesting, lemme tell you, instead of all the phylantropic research i will like to get a question solved, out of ignorance i know lord Siva controlls it all, and for The Kingdom of God to remain, eternaly.

 

i will love to resolve these question now, how many Rudras for example do exists, and what are all THEM Activities, Rudra is said to be the very same Lord Krsna´s personality, Fathered by Lord Brahmä, thus for Siva to enter; a chariot is likewise choosen thus from whithin the Rudras, that i don´t really know them in Number excatly, the top most is Lord Krsna´s plenary expantion of His personality, that mean, Siva is almost Krsna, He himself, but is not Krsna personaly. i mean, is His personality but is not Sri Krsna as in Goloka Vrndavana, however, all this features i will like to have it all puzzled out over, out again, starting thus that say a plenary expantion of that lord Krsna in Vrndavaana is known as sankarshana, as it is Bala deva, Balarama, nityananda and as Well, Shankara, the Locked hair one,.. Shankar is so famous, but He does not do anything, The verse from Srimad bhagavatam which explains this out from also the great brahma-samhita´s foreword states that from sankarshan, Mahavishnu expands ..., does this sankarshan feature does not need to pass through the rudra and then to Siva, ? -- as we can find thus Shankar is different and Siva is different.. also, thus. (the same explanation we argue that Jiva is diferent from the supreme soul, like wise the surpeme soul is along with the jeeva)

 

Siva is great and how does he fathers all demigods as the supreme deity, pertains utmost to all following the head rudras and gathering arrownd that one permament chariot, the same in whos Lord Siva enteres and mounts it once at a prescribed (?) moment (?).. .

 

now, i am searching right for all this spècific tatwatam,.. we know there is only one mahadeva, and that he is obliged to each and every universe in his destructive controlative diligence, whilst for each and every universe there are different delegades.. supreme then all of them, is Lord Krsna, what does is lord Krsna is trying to say with chanting Rudra ? His most fearfull form ??

 

yes, how is this process taking place...?

 

where does the Rudras came thus after or before shankara´s feature, what was shankara doing ?, being Him shankarshana one of his cuadruple expantions, as acompanied with vasudeva, pradyumna and Anyruda, .. ???

 

how the SUprmee Pesonality of Godhead a last manages thus all this feature to come down and to play what sort of a roll then, ??

 

Can You enlighten us, or me herewith =?

 

Thanks,

thanks for your attention anyways,

Hari Bolo !