Guest guest Posted August 2, 2004 Report Share Posted August 2, 2004 dear friends, as per vaishnava philosophy, total surrender is the only way of attaining mukti. that means we cannot see god in our human form by realising him as is advocated by advaita. they say that by self enquiry we can realise the self and by that the brahman. do the vaishnava philosophy have such concepts. what is jivanmukti? who are all the jivanmuktas we have on whom we can read and know their experiences? balaji Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2004 Report Share Posted August 3, 2004 Srimathe Lakshminarasimha Para Brahmane Namaha Dear Sri.Balaji, I woud like to clarify your query as under based on the informations , I have gained. Total surrender to Sriman Narayanan is one of the easiest methods of attaining "Jeevan Mukhti" , though it is not the only way , as per our Srivaishnava Philosophy. We should understand clearly that Paramathma is different from Jeevathma. They are not the same. Jeevathma , by virtue of its inter relations with Paramathma ( the cause of the Jeevathma ) , tries to reach it by realizing its true identity. That reaching is the Jeevan Mukhti , which is the goal of the Jeevathma . There are plenty of Jeevan Mukhtas and all the Nithya soories who are referred to in the philosophy are none other than Jeevan Mukhtas. Our Alwars and Acharyas of the past also belong to the same group. The study of the lives of Alwars , their works and those of the Acharyas would give us an over view of what we should do to attain that stage. But we should not forget that it is a very difficult path and there is no compromise on its discipline of observance. Total surender calls for the following. Akinchanathvam- means , there is nothing we can offer to LORD , which does not belong to HIM. Ananyagathithvam- means , there is no other place to go for surrender , except the THIRUVADIES of Sriman Narayanan , as HE alone can give us the MOKSHA. Poorna Viswasam - means , Implicit faith in HIM and HIM alone. Where as the first two could be easier , the third one involves lots of discipline in oneself , but our Alwars and Acharyas have shown that it could be reached with sincere devotion and approach.No compromise on this. Trust the above clarifies your query. Adiyen , Ramanuja Dasan, G.Sampath. balajiv_54 <balajiv_54 wrote: dear friends, as per vaishnava philosophy, total surrender is the only way of attaining mukti. that means we cannot see god in our human form by realising him as is advocated by advaita. they say that by self enquiry we can realise the self and by that the brahman. do the vaishnava philosophy have such concepts. what is jivanmukti? who are all the jivanmuktas we have on whom we can read and know their experiences? balaji India Matrimony: Find your life partneronline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2004 Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 srimate Ramanijaya namaha According to advaita realisation of self as brahman itself being mukti ,they say a person gets liberated fully inspite being in a body.According to vishitaadvaita,one can have the full brahmananda only in srivaikunta AND in this body one can experience something close to it.Hence we do not accept the jivanmukti concept of advaitins. dasan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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