Date of birth of Lord KrishNa - An intersting article.

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Dear Bhagavatas:

Here is an interesting article that appeared in a sister website on the date

of birth of Lord KrishNa.

Dasoham

Anbil Ramaswamy

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--- "Balasubramanian A.S" <asrbala wrote:

>Tue, 7 Sep 2004 03:13:41 -0700 (PDT)

>"Balasubramanian A.S" <asrbala

>Fwd: FW: An interesting article on Lord

>Krishna

>Note: forwarded message attached.

>A S Balasubramanian

>FW: An interesting article on Lord Krishna

>Tue, 7 Sep 2004 08:50:32 +0200

 

Thanks Bala!

Sudarshan

 

 

 

>Krishna (b. July 21, 3228 BC)

>With some deft computer astrology, mythic Krishna

>gets a date of birth, and

>some planetary influence

>

>SMITA MITRA

>

>Even gods come to earth with their destinies chalked

>out for them. So

>claims astrology, at any rate. So when Arun K.

>Bansal, the father of

>computer astrology in India, says that Hindu god

>Krishna was born on July

>21, 3228 bc, it feels momentous somehow. The date

>essentially transforms

>

>Krishna, The Man

>

>Krishna in our minds: from a mythological figure of

>mystery, even if a

>much-loved one, into well a flesh and blood entity.

>You can almost see him

>gurgling in Yashoda’s lap as Rishi Garg performs

>his naming ceremony in a

>cow shed more than 50 centuries ago.

>But backtracking into the past can be a sloppy

>misadventure if you don’t

>get your calculations right. So Bansal rests his

>claims on two of his

>software packages—the Leo Gold and the Palm

>computer programmes. They can

>simulate any planetary configuration that has

>occurred or could occur in

>time.

>All they need is a date. And July 21, 3228 bc,

>according to Bansal,

>satisfies every condition described during

>Krishna’s birth.

>

>With Saturn in his seventh house, Krishna was fated

>to court many women;

>Jupiter in Leo destined him to be estranged from his

>mother.

>

>Krishna was born in the Rohini nakshatra, in the

>Hindu month of Bhadrapada,

>on the 8th day of the waning moon at midnight.

>Bansal says this was enough

>information for him to nail the date, working

>backwards from Krishna’s

>death, which he says occurred at 2 pm on February

>18, 3102 bc.

>His entire case rests on the accuracy of this date,

>however. Bansal quotes

>extensively from the Shrimad Bhagwat and the Shri

>Vishnu Puranas, old Hindu

>calendars and the Mahabharata to illuminate the

>clues he chose to follow.

>"A shloka in the 38th chapter of the Shri Vishnu

>Puran, says that Kaliyuga

>started on the day Krishna died." He unearths

>another shloka in the Shrimad

>Bhagwat Purana (part 11, chapter 6) where Brahma

>himself speaks to Krishna

>about how old he is. "Brahma says that 125 years

>have passed since

>Krishna’s birth; this is just before Krishna plans

>his death."

>Though not empirically verifiable, the advent of

>Kaliyuga is traditionally

>taken to be 3102 bc, because all our panchangas or

>astrological journals

>maintain that 5,100 years of Kaliyuga had passed

>before 1999 AD. The belief

>is supported by mathematician Aryabhatta’s

>astronomy treatise Aryabhattiya,

>the Surya Siddhanta, an astronomical text that dates

>back to 400 AD, and a

>5th century inscription from a temple in Aihole.

>Deleting 125 years from

>the date, Bansal figured Krishna was born either in

>3327 or 3228 bc. The

>rest he left up to his software, merely feeding in

>the planetary

>configuration that Krishna was supposedly born

>under, to generate the row

>of figures that conforms to the epochal moment.

>Would astrology have thrown any light on what such

>an individual may have

>been like? Outlook asked Bansal to create a birth

>chart based on the date.

>His computer churns out 15 pages sectioned under

>tantalising headings like

>Love & Romance, Appearance, Personality, and

>Journeys. With Saturn in his

>seventh house, he would have been fated to court

>many women—enter Radha,

>the gopis and later his 16,108 wives. But since the

>seventh house was also

>under the sign of Scorpio, which guarantees a joyful

>marital life, he’d

>also have had the power to keep them happy despite

>having to divide his

>attentions among them. An attractive appearance and

>personality would have

>come from the exalted moon under the sign of Taurus.

>Jupiter and the

>exalted Mercury in the fifth house will have

>conferred intelligence and

>oratory skills. Fame and power would have come from

>Ketu in the 9th house,

>though it would also have forced him to lead a life

>away from his

>birthplace.

>Certainly stray statements do conform eerily to

>Krishna’s attributed

>qualities. "Endowed with a glowing complexion, you

>have bright eyes and an

>enchanting smile." Under personality comes—"You

>have great fancy for music,

>moonlight and money".

>

>

>Even the Bhagwad Gita seems to have its origin in

>his birth chart; it

>predicts that a person born under this astral spread

>would have been a

>great believer in karma who would advise others

>about karma and noble

>deeds. But there are a few adverse planetary

>configurations to contend

>with. The chart describes a life of continuous

>strife, peppered with

>battles and wars because Rahu, Mars and Venus are in

>the third house. Due

>to the location of Jupiter in Leo, he would also

>have been destined to be

>estranged from his mother—or mothers in his case.

>With plans to announce

>the results of his research at the Somnath temple

>during this year’s

>Janmashtami festival for Krishna’s birthday,

>Bansal says that even the

>temple’s priests concur with his findings.

>"Another pandit, Shri Gyananda

>Saraswati in Benaras, who will come to the

>celebration in Somnath, has also

>come up with the same dates." At peace with his

>research, Bansal prefers to

>turn a blind eye to the long, long line of

>astrologers, godmen, NASA

>scientists, mathematicians and writers stretching

>all the way back to

>Aryabhatta who have worked on the same thing. They

>all quote the same

>scriptures, taking into account some or all of the

>astral happenings

>recorded in great detail, especially the ones during

>the calamitous time of

>the Mahabharata war, when Krishna was said to have

>been 90 years old. These

>include rare astronomical happenings like the solar

>and lunar eclipse that

>occurred consecutively in the space of a month just

>before the war, a

>fortnight that lasted only for 13 days instead of 15

>when the moon was

>waning, and a comet that burned through the skies.

>Also, the planetary

>positions recorded during the Mahabharata war were

>roughly replicated 36

>years later, when Krishna died. Most scholars prefer

>to concentrate on the

>Mahabharata war where a significant cluster of

>astronomical events

>occurred, before zooming onto their own set of dates

>that binds down the

>life of the eighth avatar of Vishnu in a specific

>time-frame. But the

>dates, while drawn from the same source, strain in

>opposite directions. At

>a colloquium organised by the Mythic Society in

>Bangalore in January last

>year, dates as wide as 1478 bc to 3067 bc were

>proposed. Contributors

>included S. Balakrishna (from NASA, US), using

>Lodestar Pro software, who

>proposed 2559 bc as the start of the war. Prof R.N.

>Iyengar (from the

>Indian Institute of Science, Bangalore) brought the

>event closer

>historically, suggesting the date 1478 bc, while

>B.N. Narahari Achar

>(Department of Physics, University of Memphis, US)

>after "critically

>examining" the astronomical events in the

>Mahabharata pointed to 3067 bc.

>Authors like P.V. Vartak push back the date of the

>Mahabharata much

>further, to 5561 bc. Swami Prakashanand Saraswati,

>in his book, The True

>History and the Religion of India, comes up with the

>same dates as Bansal

>does. Considering that there are 150 astronomical

>references provided about

>the characters and events in the Mahabharata in one

>lakh-odd shlokas, there

>is little consensus on what information is worth

>concentrating on. In

>addition, there is reason to believe that our

>scriptures "grew" over time,

>incorporating events of every period. So there is

>precious little we can

>attribute collectively to one age. Many scholars in

>fact wonder if all the

>references to Krishna in the scriptures refer to one

>person or whether the

>Krishna of Vrindavan and the Krishna of the

>Mahabharata are two different

>people. But then searching for that mythical date

>wouldn’t be half as

>engaging if the process weren’t so complicated.

>Any wonder that even though

>the gods have destinies, they prefer we view them

>through fogged glasses?

>