Guest guest Posted November 10, 2004 Report Share Posted November 10, 2004 Namaskaram Adiyen have a question about ishta daivam and kula daivam. I'm not sure if this topic has already been discussed before or explained in Hinduism Rediscovered. Everybody including archagar in our vaishnava sthalam have ishta daivam and kula daivam which will be different from the koil that he is doing archagam. I understand the meaning of ishta daivam, as it is a daivam prefered by the individual. What is kula daivam? Though our single motive is to attain saranagathy to the lord. We have kula deiyvam like hanuman, durgai, etc.,. Is it kula daivam means the god/godesses is workshiped by our family for very longtime? if so on what basis do we classify? Is it based on our ancesters did archagam/kaikaryam to this god? Can you please explain? Sriman narayanan Check out the new Front Page. www. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2004 Report Share Posted November 15, 2004 , Sriman Narayanan Kidambi <snkidambi> wrote: > > Namaskaram > > Adiyen have a question about ishta daivam and kula daivam. Is it kula daivam means the god/godesses is workshiped by our family for very longtime? if so on what basis do we classify? Is it based on our ancesters did archagam/kaikaryam to this god? Can you please explain? > > Sriman narayanan *************** Dear Sir, I suppose you are right. (And I also say you've explained it quite well yourself!). If you ask me, I'd say there are really no hard-&-fast definitions for "kula", "ishta", and "abhimAna" deivam. It all depends on the context, the circumstance or the emotional state of the worshipper. I usually like to quote the example of Peria-AzhwAr here. Peria-AzhwAr was a native of SriVilliputtur. Naturally, we'd think his "kula deivam" should've been none other than Sri RangamannAr perumAl or 'vadapatra-sAyin", the local deity there. But Peri- AzhwAr's "ishta-deivam" or "abhimAna deivam" seems to have been Sri Ranganatha perumAl of SriRangam. And we can understand why, since Ranga was the AzhwAr's "maapillai" (son-in-law) and all sons-in-law, of course, have to be necessarily deferred to by fathers-in-law, willy-nilly... But if you read what the AzhwAr says in his famous final hymn, the "senniyOngu pAsuram" of the "peria-AzhwAr tirumozhi", you'd think our great Lord of TiruVenkatam, SrinivAsan, is his "kula deivam" without doubt! When the AzhwAr himself merrily enjoyed license and flexibility, why should we get strait-jacketed by rigid definitions? Regards, dAsan, Sudarshan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2004 Report Share Posted November 15, 2004 Namaskarams. To continue this further, Ishta, Kula and Abhimana deivams are same as they are all Lord Sriman Narayana in various roopams which are being liked in one roopam or other. Net result is we all love Sriman Narayana, which is the bottomline. With respects Kannan Sudarshan K Madabushi <mksudarshan2002 wrote: , Sriman Narayanan Kidambi <snkidambi> wrote: > > Namaskaram > > Adiyen have a question about ishta daivam and kula daivam. Is it kula daivam means the god/godesses is workshiped by our family for very longtime? if so on what basis do we classify? Is it based on our ancesters did archagam/kaikaryam to this god? Can you please explain? > > Sriman narayanan *************** Dear Sir, I suppose you are right. (And I also say you've explained it quite well yourself!). If you ask me, I'd say there are really no hard-&-fast definitions for "kula", "ishta", and "abhimAna" deivam. It all depends on the context, the circumstance or the emotional state of the worshipper. I usually like to quote the example of Peria-AzhwAr here. Peria-AzhwAr was a native of SriVilliputtur. Naturally, we'd think his "kula deivam" should've been none other than Sri RangamannAr perumAl or 'vadapatra-sAyin", the local deity there. But Peri- AzhwAr's "ishta-deivam" or "abhimAna deivam" seems to have been Sri Ranganatha perumAl of SriRangam. And we can understand why, since Ranga was the AzhwAr's "maapillai" (son-in-law) and all sons-in-law, of course, have to be necessarily deferred to by fathers-in-law, willy-nilly... But if you read what the AzhwAr says in his famous final hymn, the "senniyOngu pAsuram" of the "peria-AzhwAr tirumozhi", you'd think our great Lord of TiruVenkatam, SrinivAsan, is his "kula deivam" without doubt! When the AzhwAr himself merrily enjoyed license and flexibility, why should we get strait-jacketed by rigid definitions? Regards, dAsan, Sudarshan Sponsor Eliminate Your Debt! ·Get out of Debt Now · Christian counselors available·Click here to find out how you can become free from debt. / Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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