Guest guest Posted January 3, 2005 Report Share Posted January 3, 2005 Dear Bhagavatas: I am forwarding a mail received from a member for your info. Moderator ===================================================== >srikrishna <srikrishna >premkumarprasad, ns_srivats, >ramanbil, datacare >CC: Lavy Moncy <lavy_moncy, Michael Williams ><xwilliams >Proud to be an INDIAN >Mon, 3 Jan 2005 10:54:42 +0530 > >>Who is the co-founder of Sun Microsystems? >> >>Vinod Khosla >> >> >> >>Who is the creator of Pentium chip (needs no introduction as 90% of the >>today's computers run on it)? >> >>Vinod Dahm >> >> >> >>Who is the third richest man on the world? >> >>According to the latest report on Fortune Magazine, it is AZIM PREMJI, who >>is the CEO of Wipro Industries. The Sultan of Brunei is at 6th position >>now. >> >> >> >>Who is the founder and creator of Hotmail (Hotmail is world's No.1 web >>based email program)? >> >>Sabeer Bhatia >> >> >> >>Who is the president of AT & T-Bell Labs (AT & T-Bell Labs is the creator >>of program languages such as C, C++, Unix to name a few)? >> >>Arun Netravalli >> >> >> >>Who is the GM of Hewlett Packard? >> >>Rajiv Gupta >> >> >> >>Who is the new MTD (Microsoft Testing Director) of Windows 2000, >>responsible to iron out all initial problems? >> >>Sanjay Tejwrika >> >> >> >>Who are the Chief Executives of CitiBank, Mckensey & Stanchart? >> >>Victor Menezes, Rajat Gupta, and Rana Talwar. >> >> >> >>We Indians are the wealthiest among all ethnic groups in America, even >>faring better than the whites and the natives. There are 3.22 millions of >>Indians in USA (1.5% of population). YET, >> >>38% of doctors in USA are Indians. >> >>12% scientists in USA are Indians. >> >>36% of NASA scientists are Indians. >> >>34% of Microsoft employees are Indians. >> >>28% of IBM employees are Indians. >> >>17% of INTEL scientists are Indians. >> >>13% of XEROX employees are Indians. >> >> >> >>You may know some of the following facts. These facts were recently >>published in a German magazine, which deals with WORLD HISTORY FACTS ABOUT >>INDIA. >> >>01. India never invaded any country in her last 1000 years of history. >> >>02. India invented the Number system. Aryabhatta invented 'zero.' >> >>03. The world's first University was established in Takshila in 700BC. >>More than 10,500 students from all over the world studied more than 60 >>subjects. The University of Nalanda built in the 4th century BC was one of >>the greatest achievements of ancient India in the field of education. >> >>04. According to the Forbes magazine, Sanskrit is the most suitable >>language for computer software. >> >>05. Ayurveda is the earliest school of medicine known to humans. >> >>06. Although western media portray modern images of India as poverty >>striken and underdeveloped through political corruption, India was once >>the richest empire on earth. >> >>07. The art of navigation was born in the river Sindh 5000 years ago. >>The very word "Navigation" is derived from the Sanskrit word NAVGATIH. >> >>08. The value of pi was first calculated by Budhayana, and he >>explained the concept of what is now known as the Pythagorean Theorem. >>British scholars have last year (1999) officially published that >>Budhayan's works dates to the 6th Century, which is long before the >>European mathematicians. >> >>09. Algebra, trigonometry and calculus came from India. Quadratic >>equations were by Sridharacharya in the 11th Century; the largest numbers >>the Greeks and the Romans used were 106 whereas Indians used numbers as >>big as 1053. >> >>10. According to the Gemmological Institute of America, up until 1896, >>India was the only source of diamonds to the world. >> >>11. USA based IEEE has proved what has been a century-old suspicion >>amongst academics that the pioneer of wireless communication was Professor >>Jagdeesh Bose and not Marconi. >> >>12. The earliest reservoir and dam for irrigation was built in >>Saurashtra. >> >>13. Chess was invented in India. >> >>14. Sushruta is the father of surgery. 2600 years ago he and health >>scientists of his time conducted surgeries like cesareans, cataract, >>fractures and urinary stones. Usage of anaesthesia was well known in >>ancient India. >> >>15. When many cultures in the world were only nomadic forest dwellers >>over 5000 years ago, Indians established Harappan culture in Sindhu Valley >>(Indus Valley Civilisation). >> >>16. The place value system, the decimal system was developed in India >>in 100 BC. >> >> >> >>Quotes about India. >> >>We owe a lot to the Indians, who taught us how to count, without which no >>worthwhile scientific discovery could have been made. - Albert Einstein >> >> >> >>India is the cradle of the human race, the birthplace of human speech, the >>mother of history, the grandmother of legend and the great grand mother of >>tradition. - Mark Twain >> >> >> >>If there is one place on the face of earth where all dreams of living men >>have found a home from the very earliest days when man began the dream of >>existence, it is India. - French scholar Romain Rolland >> >> >> >>India conquered and dominated China culturally for 20 centuries without >>ever having to send a single soldier across her border. - Hu Shih >>(Former Chinese ambassador to USA) >> >> >> >> >> >>ALL OF THE ABOVE IS JUST THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG, THE LIST COULD BE >>ENDLESS. BUT, >> >> if we don't see even a glimpse of that great India in the India that we >>see today, it clearly means that we are not working up to our potential; >>and that if we do, we could once again be an ever shining and inspiring >>country setting a bright path for rest of the world to follow. I hope you >>enjoyed it and work towards the welfare of INDIA. >> >> Say proudly, I AM AN >>INDIAN. >> >>Please forward this email to all known INDIANS............ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>This is for information and communication purposes only. This is not >>intended for solicitation, recommendation or agreement of any kind. Any >>comment(s) / statement(s) made herein does not necessarily represent that >>those of Thapathi S Ganesh & Associates >> >> >> >Thanks & Regards >Sreekrishna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2005 Report Share Posted January 3, 2005 Dear Bhagavatas: Here is an alternate view on the subject. I agree with Sri Sudarshan Swami's assessment. Though the report appears to be "gloating", nevertheless, I believe, it is projected to boost the morale of NRIs to do better in their chosen fields of activity and not for showing Indians back in India in a poor light. Anyway, this was featured, without comments, only for the information of readers and NOT for creating any controversy. No further postings on the subject seems called for. Let us move on with our help to our unfortunate fellow citizens suffering from the trauma of Tsunami. Moderator ================================================================== , "Ram Anbil" <Ramanbil@h...> wrote: > Dear Bhagavatas: > I am forwarding a mail received from a member for your info. > Moderator > ===================================================== > >Proud to be an INDIAN > >>We Indians are the wealthiest among all ethnic groups in America, even > >>faring better than the whites and the natives. There are 3.22 millions of > >>Indians in USA (1.5% of population). YET, > >> > >>38% of doctors in USA are Indians. > >> > >>12% scientists in USA are Indians. > >> > >>36% of NASA scientists are Indians. > >> **************** Dear SrimAn Anbil swAmi, It was a very interesting compilation indeed that the member-friend posted of the glorious achievements of Indians abroad especially in the USA. I've been myself an NRI for the last 12 years and let me say I'm quite proud of the achievements of fellow non-resident brethren in far off lands. But I still do not hesitate to say that this kind of gloating (and the vicarious satisfaction we all seem to derive out of it) is far from patriotic. On the contrary, it is a self- congratulatory, self-admiring act that, if only we are sensitive enough to think deeply about it, can actually be quite offensive and insulting to millions of good Indian citizens who remain back home to live and work there. The kind of self-congratulatory gloating we often indulge in I think only serves to put our homeland in a rather poor light. Why? Because it just invites the question: "If so many Indians are doing so well elsewhere in the world, why is India itself lagging behind so many nations today?" And what is the answer? It is invariably a very facile but specious explanation that gets deduced by implication and insinuation: "Because the environment in India is so bad and hopeless, and so inimical that real human talent can never thrive or flourish there as it can in the USA, UK, or Europe". This is exactly what is implied everytime we put out our famous lists of great Indians who have made it big in the Western World... I often find myself asking how many in the USA, Germany or Japan actually go around congratulating themselves on the great fortunes or success some of their own countrymen, who having ventured out of the country, happen to make in far-off lands. I don't think anyone in Italy cares two cents (or liras) over Ms.Sonia Gandhi being the most powerful politician in India. I'm not sure anybody in far off Albania even knows about the great work that Mother St. Teresa did in Calcutta, India. Who in England cares that Mark Tully is a respected name in the Indian media? In the colonial times when the British ruled India, many Englishmen came to live and work in India. Many of them like Robert Clive amassed personal fortunes as well as a name in the history book. Some like Rudyard Kipling and E.M.Forster even made their great literary and artistic careers in India. But back home in England nobody ever made any fuss about them. In fact, in true-blue English society, these men were secretly and subtly regarded as some sort of fortune-hunters and hence as pariahs. If Indians --- like the cousins and brothers/sisters from our own families -- who emigrate to US or UK do well there, the credit is all theirs. Their being Indian, or being Indian in origin, is not the prime reason for their achivements. The credit should go to and remain in that country alone. India feels no need to take any credit for it. Nor does it need to feel sorry over the fact. No Sir, thank you. India does not have to worry too much of brain-drain anymore. There's plenty of brain left amongst the young and bright ones here. And by the way, there are plenty of reasons and things Indians in India can be proud of other than about the Rajat Guptas and Sameer Bhatias of the USA. Right now I am here in Chennai, India for a brief vacation. The day I landed here, the coast of T'Nadu was hit by a gigantic tsunami that according to latest estimates has killed over 12000 people in India in one fell, barely 3-5 minute swoop on 26 Dec! I am witnessing a human tragedy of epic proportions even as I am writing this post.... You know what I am really proud of? I am proud of the way my country has taken this disaster in its stride. I'm proud of the way the Govt and govt. agencies, relief agencies, voluntary workers, private charities, business houses, the army, the police, the local administrations, ordinary men and women ... have all risen to the occasion to meet this challenge. I am proud of the way the poorest of Indians in Nagapattinam or Vellankanni or Nagore have not given way to despair or distress... but instead have shown a remarkable courage to bounce back to soon take control of their situation and lives... India does not look to the UN or the USA or the Red Cross or George Bush in its gravest moments of crises even. This country manages on its own. It prevails no matter what... and on its own terms! No sir, thank you, please keep all of those Indians you want --- the NASA scientists, John Hopkins doctors or the whiz-kids of Microsoft and Intel. Indians in India would rather have instead, any day, that poor but courageous fisherman who lives alone, but lives with quiet dignity, on the lonely, now devastated beaches of Nagapattinam and Karaikal. Regards, dAsan, Sudarshan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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