Guest guest Posted January 13, 2005 Report Share Posted January 13, 2005 I have some doubts on parasuram avathar.Some vaishnavites believe that lakshmi and vishnu are inseperable and in every avathar of vishnu, lakhsmi always followed him.But as far as I know in parasuram avathar and vamana avathar this did not happen.Also we have read that parasurama was defeated by bheeshma in vyasa bharatham.Why was this so?"Also parasuram avathar reminds more of a kalki avathar--destroying kings.Every avathar of vishnu is filled with karunya and love even to his enemies.But parasuram avathar destroyed all ksathriyas indiscriminatly.He even came to kill king dasaratha,who was a benign ksathriya king.Is there any reason behind this? Also is Balarama an avathar of vishnu? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2005 Report Share Posted January 17, 2005 Sri RAmajayam SrimathE GopAla DEsika MahA DEsikAya Namaha There are two characteristics that uniquely show-out the Vibhava AvatAr. One characteristic, are the beautiful eyes of the Lord, and the second is the Vakshasthalam of the Lord. So Lakshmi is inseperably united with the Lord at all times, immaterial of which AvatAr the Lord chooses to take (including Matsya, Koorma, VarAha AvatArs). After destroying evil kings to uphold true VarnAsrama Dharma, ParasurAma AvatAra karyA was fulfilled. The KshatriyAs who were left out were DasarathA (who married every year as ParasurAma had a vow not to touch a newly wed for upto a year), Janaka and a few others who were good. With Sri RAmA's AvatAr, ParasurAma gave up his powers to Sri RAma, and went on to the Himalayas for Penance (where KarnA chose to learn Astra SAstras at his feet). So ParasurAma AvatAr is pretty much in line with what Sri Krishna proclaimed "ParithrAnaya SadhoonAm....Dharma SamsthAbanArthAya SambavAmi..." AdiyEn Sri RAmAnuja DAsan, Sudarsana DAsOsmi --- rojatraders <rojatraders wrote: > > > > I have some doubts on parasuram avathar.Some > vaishnavites believe > that lakshmi and vishnu are inseperable and in every > avathar of > vishnu, lakhsmi always followed him.But as far as I > know in > parasuram avathar and vamana avathar this did not > happen.Also we > have read that parasurama was defeated by bheeshma > in vyasa > bharatham.Why was this so?"Also parasuram avathar > reminds more of a > kalki avathar--destroying kings.Every avathar of > vishnu is filled > with karunya and love even to his enemies.But > parasuram avathar > destroyed all ksathriyas indiscriminatly.He even > came to kill king > dasaratha,who was a benign ksathriya king.Is there > any reason behind > this? > > Also is Balarama an avathar of vishnu? > > ------------------------ Sponsor > --------------------~--> > In low income neighborhoods, 84% do not own > computers. > At Network for Good, help bridge the Digital Divide! > http://us.click./hjtSRD/3MnJAA/i1hLAA/VkWolB/TM > --~-> > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. http://info.mail./mail_250 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2005 Report Share Posted January 21, 2005 SrimatE Raamaanujaaya Namaha SrimatE Nigamaanta Mahaa Desikaaya Namaha Srimate Sri Lakshminrisimha Divyapadukasevaka Srivan Satakopa Sri NarayanaYatindra Mahadesikaya nama: Dear Bhagavathas, The writer would like to submit the following as the clarification and trust it would serve the purpose. Every Avatar of MAHA VISHNU teaches us something , which is vital for our emancipation from this world. If one studies in detail , the Avatars will definitely convey to us something , which we were not aware of earlier. If we analyse the Parasurama Avatar in that respect , we will see the following , which the writer has already sent through an article in this site itself as early as : Mon, 28 Jun 2004 10:16:56 +0100 (BST) which is reproduced for your benefit. Quote: Parasurama Avatar. – a glimpse. - Battle between the Head and the Heart . Sriman Narayanan , has taken number of Vibhava Avatarams , only to teach the mankind , the importance of righteousness, virtue, kindness , friendliness ,principles of empathy , importance of performing one’s prescribed duties within the laid down norms etc.etc and bring the humanfolk into the right path by removing adharma in any form . In this Parasurama Avataram is one such Sakthi form of Vishnu. The Lord took up this form only to remove the arrogance of the Kshatriya rulers, who harmed the sages and unprotected mortals. If we try to analyze the sequences in detail , we can notice that this Avatar teaches us a lot. Parasurama was born to Rishi Jamadhagni and his wife Renuka, as the fifth boy. He was initially named Bargava Rama and later on when he took to great penance , lasting over 10 years in the Himalayas ( Kailash) , Bargava Rama was renamed Parasurama by Lord Siva himself , who gave him his Siva Dhanus and the Parasu ( the Axe) as the boons for his deep penance and devotion and blessed him to achieve his objectives with the help of those gadgets . Parasurama , primarily did the penance to Lord Siva only to get enough powers to avenge the kshatriya rulers , who were harming the sages. When Parasurama came back from Kailash , he found his father in deep sorrow and distress . As his aim was only to remove the sorrow of the sage and avenge the person who created such distress to the Rishi , without even using his senses properly , he gave the word to his father that he would fulfill his wishes in the acts of revenge . This revengeful bent of mind put Parsurama in a deep predicament. So in life one should always use the sense organs properly , at the same time having full control over them , and take such prudent decisions , which would result in actions of glory and fame . The conversation between Rishi Jamadagni and Parsurama after the latter cutting the head of his mother Renuka , based on the orders of his father Jamadagni is quite revealing and educating . Parasurama regrets a lot for his impulsive and sinful actions. Then Rishi Jamadagni , uses his extraordinary powers of penance and rejoins the head of Renuka with her body to bring her back to life. Even though this action brings happiness to all the five children , Parasurama continues to regret and goes to his father questioning his actions. He wonders , how can , a Rishi , who is well educated , having a profound vision and accomplished lots of glory , could suspect his own wife. Is it just because Renuka Devi happens to be a woman ? Rishi does not have the right to suspect her actions and put her to such insult and cruel punishment. If a great Rishi can go ahead and do such a sinful act , in future how a common person , who is not blessed with such wisdom or education or vision can control his senses and ego. Rishi Jamadagni seeks the pardon of Parasurama number of times and Parasuram refuses. He categorically says that his father’s act cannot be pardoned by any one , except by his own mother Renuka devi , who was the then affected person . Rishi Jamadagni then seeks the help of Renuka Devi, his wife to pardon him . In the over all interest of the family to be together . She gracefully accepts the request, thereby establishing the kindness of a motherhood . Thus one can notice that while children should respect their parents and their orders , it should not be a blind faith . The actions should follow the laws laid down in society . Also, a righteous woman would always look into the over all interests of the family instead of her own self. The raged Parasurama , regretting his cruel action and in deep despair ,feels ashamed and curses his own fate , for bringing such a blemish to his life and seeks the blessings of Lord Siva to explain to him , why He gave that Parasu ( the axe) to him and made his mother to be the first victim . If one ponders a bit more , we can realize that , this is what happens to a person , when he is driven by his high ego and the ego centric desires , and takes up actions with only revenge as the motive , without having restraint and self control . Parasurama wanted to avenge the Kshatriyas , who were giving trouble to the sages. His main aim in life was only that. But to achieve that aim , he chose to follow a path , with only anger and revenge in mind , without any self control, which tripped him to the trap of giving word to his father without even thinking of the consequences and thus got into a situation which brought him such a bad name. Again , with such a distressed mind and anger , Parsurama goes to the King’s palace , who was responsible for his father’s despair , to avenge him . When Parsurama tries to kill the King , the King’s wife intervenes and stops Parsurama from another cruel act and says that she will not allow him to take revenge against the King till she is alive. She wanted Pursurama to kill her first before proceeding further. Even though the King was disloyal to his wife , the greatness of the queen is well revealed by her own selfless actions. The story thus reveals how the two ladies , Rishi’s wife Renuka and the king’s wife protect their husbands , when they were in despair. They used their heads properly to arrive at decisions which would benefit the entire family . If people are upright , straight forward and devoted to their respective duties , no force on earth can keep those people suppressed and their glory will come out automatically with full force and vigour. In Vaikuntam , Mahavishnu and Mahalakshmi are in dialogue. Goddess Lakshmai rightly questions her husband Mahavishnu , how He could take an avatar like that in the world , where He is forced to cut His own mother’s head based on the orders of His father and how can He give word to His father without understanding the details of the wishes of His father. Was it not an act of arrogance or immature behaviour ? She says she was unable to understand the significance of this Avatar. While this may look a bit strange , actually the Goddess Lakshmi wanted the Lord Himself to convey to the world , the significance of this Avatar . As usual Lord Vishnu then replies calmly and says that He wanted to prove to the world how even a well read and accomplished person can succumb to the ego , if he does not have self control. While the saying "Pithru Devo Bhava" is to be observed , so also the saying "Mathru Devo Bhava" , which is equally important. When He talks of Mathru here , the Lord covers all the Women folk in the universe. He even says , because of the impulsive action of Parasurama , in only desiring to fulfill his promise to his father , he engaged himself in such a cruel action , which when goes in history , is not going to bring him a big fame and despite all his other achievements and accomplishments it would remain as a blemish in his life history. Also the path chosen by any one to achieve his objectives should be bounded by the laid down laws of the universe. Moreover , persons should never be self centered and impulsive in their actions . Persons should use their head more than their heart while taking crucial decisions in life . Sarve Jana Sukhino Bhavantu ! ! Adiyen Dasan--G.Sampath. Unquote. rojatraders <rojatraders wrote: I have some doubts on parasuram avathar.Some vaishnavites believe that lakshmi and vishnu are inseperable and in every avathar of vishnu, lakhsmi always followed him.But as far as I know in parasuram avathar and vamana avathar this did not happen.Also we have read that parasurama was defeated by bheeshma in vyasa bharatham.Why was this so?"Also parasuram avathar reminds more of a kalki avathar--destroying kings.Every avathar of vishnu is filled with karunya and love even to his enemies.But parasuram avathar destroyed all ksathriyas indiscriminatly.He even came to kill king dasaratha,who was a benign ksathriya king.Is there any reason behind this? Also is Balarama an avathar of vishnu? India Matrimony: Find your life partneronline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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